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Roy Moore and Republicans, taking the Bible literally but not seriously

One of the problems with these accusations, has to do with the length of time between the alleged events, and when the accusers stepped forward. As time goes on, our perception of the past changes. For example, how many men, as teens, would take risks? When they look back to those risks, from the POV of being middle aged, they see risk, not fun. Driving the car 100mph is fun for a teen. But the older man would judge those same actions of his youth, differently. The same person can have two different attitudes for the same event all depending on how much time has passed.

A teen male might be part of a group of boys that jumps off the highest ledge in the quarry, into the lake below. This is exciting for a teen, even if very dangerous. Later in life, the idea of even looking over the edge, would be terrifying. This change of heart, that occurs with time, can make the older man remember his former friends, as not really being friends, since they put him into peril that could have killed him. With forty years of water under the bridge, perception of people also changes.

The closer the timing between the event and when one speaks up, the closer it will be to the real time feelings, in the context of the real time event. The longer the time lag, the more likely our mind can change and sees the same things, differently. As attitudes change, so does perception of the past. If a social taboo was to appear between then and now, we are socially forced to change our tune or be judged.

This is especially true, today, in light of the leftist game of judging the past, by contemporary standards, instead of judging the past by its own time; history versus revisionist history. This revisionist history tactic makes people remember the past differently, than what it was, due to the change in the social litmus test.

If you are old enough to recall 1970's, when Judge Moore was a Democrat, this was the time of free sex, swinging singles, and the jet set. Trump was part of that jet set, where all cool people went to the best parties; sex, drugs and rock and roll. It was also the time when the Democrats were pushing sex education in school, even to minors. Why teach little girls about sex other than priming the pump for the guys. Weren't they also pushing free birth control, condoms and abortion? If a 14 year old girl wanted birth control pills, modern hypocrisy did not apply back then. There was a legal way around parental authority. What about women's liberation and the burning of bra's? Wasn't the left trying to remove the stigmatism of having sex, by any which way, including homosexuality?

These limits tests of the times, gave cover to all the sexual escapades and perversions that was common in government in those days. The older timers, who played by the rules of the game in those days, are now being judged, by the standards of today, for things that was made stylish by the left, when they did it. Now the left acts like it is the moral authority, when it was the immoral authority of those times. How do you factor this out, to get to the truth?

You write well but your ignorance of history is either deliberate or the result of poor teachers.

Just one example is your take on sex education in schools as little more than "priming the pump for the guys" Please tell the readers why the states with the highest teen pregnancy rates today are generally seen as having the poorest sex education standards.
 
We can all be guilty of picking and choosing justifications for our actions but for me, it is the sheer and utter hypocrisy of some who call themselves "Christian" that I find mind-boggling. Please note the some, I do not find that most Christians act in the ways of these freakin' hypocrites who are defending Roy Moore. Is it because he says the Bible rules over the Constitution or because he is a politician with an R behind his name?



Milbank then provides us with a list of Biblical "laws" seldom followed by modern American Christians.


Moore, his wife, and all that support Moore & claim to be Christians are nothing but FAKE Christians.

Trump talks **** about 'fake news' but 'fake Christians' are worse than Satan ................

to these so called Christians getting a child molester elected to office is much more important than serving their 'God' ...........
 
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Moore, his wife, and all that support Moore & claim to be Christians are nothing but FAKE Christians.

Trump talks **** about 'fake news' but 'fake Christians' are worse than Satan ................

to these so called Christians getting a child molester elected to office is much more important than serving their 'God' ...........

Where do you come up with this drivel? And when should we ever vote for a left-wing puppet of Pelosi and Schummer - who don't know their heads from a hammer?
 
Where do you come up with this drivel? And when should we ever vote for a left-wing puppet of Pelosi and Schummer - who don't know their heads from a hammer?

well, these folks are 'fake Christians' .............. what; you think Jesus wants to have a child predator perv in The US Senate & a bunch of so called Christians supporting that? That goes against the scriptures these 'fake Christians' are always throwing around & bloviating about .......

I wasn't aware this thread was about Pelosi and Schummer; you could try and not derail the thread ..........
 
Where do you come up with this drivel? And when should we ever vote for a left-wing puppet of Pelosi and Schummer - who don't know their heads from a hammer?

Maybe you should listen to a preacher or two or three, after Roy Moore's wife was caught posting a fake letter of support for her husband

from the Murdoch-owned NYPost
Pastors want names removed from Roy Moore endorsement letter

A letter of support signed by 50 pastors that embattled Senate candidate Roy Moore’s wife posted to Facebook Sunday following sexual misconduct allegations against Moore was actually a rehashed endorsement letter from August — and several pastors now want their names removed, according to reports.
 
Who are you, God, to make that determination? You haven't a clue on that.

well, it should warm our hearts to know that 'fake Christians' across the US support Trump (a 'claimed' Christian & confessed ***** grabber) and 'fake Christians' support Moore (a 'claimed' Christian & multiple accused sexual pervert)

I'm sure Jesus approves of all this; I feel better now ...............
 
well, these folks are 'fake Christians' .............. what; you think Jesus wants to have a child predator perv in The US Senate & a bunch of so called Christians supporting that? That goes against the scriptures these 'fake Christians' are always throwing around & bloviating about .......

I wasn't aware this thread was about Pelosi and Schummer; you could try and not derail the thread ..........

He's one of "them". It's what they do. Hebephile backup.
 
By the right wing - and more so by the supposed Christians. Wedge issues are now more important than whether or not you're representative assaulted teen girls. Evangelical Christians have a moral sewer to deal with here. When this is even an issue then a religion is clearly just a political instrument.

Yes, that's how all actions become moral equivalents and, thus, morally neutral. When everything big or small is made into a political football, everything can be dismissed as such. Then, because the testimony of victims is corrupted by the stink of politics, the victims can go without justice so that the followers of pedophiles can have their tax vote.

Moore's molestation of girls becomes a metaphor for how the conservatives want to molest the treasury and don't care what they have to do to get their way. They know it's wrong but it feels good to them. Normal shame is negated by their lust to starve the poorest children of this nation vicariously through debt. Their goal is to make us so poor, as a nation, that we all become apathetic to human need because what used to be called poverty is the new normal.

It's an extremely cynical world view that creates these hypocrites.
 
They are defending him against multiple accusations. Some he has said may be true. They have no idea if true or untrue.

If you can find an actual witch, by all means, feel free to burn them.

I have met many witches, for the most part I prefer them far more than most Christians..

Witches do the right things because they arre the right thing to do.
Christians do the right thing when people are looking a.d the wrong things when they think no one is. Only because someone told them Jesus will forgive them as long as they believe in him.
 
I have met many witches, for the most part I prefer them far more than most Christians..

Witches do the right things because they arre the right thing to do.
Christians do the right thing when people are looking a.d the wrong things when they think no one is. Only because someone told them Jesus will forgive them as long as they believe in him.

I'm pretty sure I was not talking about witches you know. You don't describe them as evil doers who devour children. I more or less agree with the second statement although I do know christians to whom it does not apply.
 
Their own words tell the thinking segment of the populace, that Roy Moore, his supporters and others in today's GOP want a Christian theocracy in America

"THIS IS A SPIRITUAL BATTLE"

HENAGAR, Alabama—Roy Moore’s campaign appearance Monday night in northeast Alabama—his first rally since his Senate campaign was blown open by allegations of sexual impropriety and an assault involving teenagers—had the atmosphere of an old-fashioned religious tent revival. A Baptist preacher thanked God for Moore during an invocation, and prayed, “May we win this battle against a lost and dying world.” The head of the county Republican Party called the election “a spiritual battle we’re fighting.” The candidate called for a return to morality and said America can become great again only by acknowledging God. The standing-room audience frequently punctuated Moore’s comments with “amen.”

“Continue to pray,” Rich Hobson, a longtime Moore associate and his campaign chief of staff, said at the Henagar Community Center, a small square room that was packed with nearly 200 supporters. “Obviously, prayer works. That’s why we’re here.”
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We’ve got to have a Christian like Judge Moore. If not, this country will go down the tube.”

Moore, a two-time Alabama chief justice who was removed from office both times for moral stances in defiance of federal judges, has built a political career—and a loyal following of voters—over the past 25 years by battling the political establishment and championing conservative evangelical causes, from opposing abortion and same-sex marriage to promoting the Ten Commandments as the moral foundation for U.S. law.
(. . .)
“I have vowed that when I go to Washington as senator to bring a knowledge of the Constitution and of the God who is its foundation,” Moore said.
 
If you're a grown man trying to **** juvenile girls, calling them gold diggers is irrelevant to the fact that they were victims first. Those who defend Roy's pattern of sexual predation against immature females need to examine their own morality because clearly it's broken.



The very frustrating thing is that the same people defending and supporting him would be the people who would be calling for blood if a homeless man were accused of the very same acts.

They have no interest in justice only that oh so very important seat.

Satan could be running for the seat and they would start saying god was overstepping his authority by throwing him out of heaven.
 
Simple question for tbe self righteous, if you would not leave him alone with your daughter how can you vote for him to represent you.

Tbe hypocrisy is so thick you can't see through it.

And any true Christian would know that Jesus had a LOT to say about hypocrisy....
 
The very frustrating thing is that the same people defending and supporting him would be the people who would be calling for blood if a homeless man were accused of the very same acts.

They have no interest in justice only that oh so very important seat.

Satan could be running for the seat and they would start saying god was overstepping his authority by throwing him out of heaven.

You see, that's the benefit of magical thinking. There is no problem that you can't imagine away. On many levels, that's my primary bitch with the conservatives, they rely on make-believe too much. Whether it's Jesus hating gays or loving fetuses or the magical free market, they live in a fantasy world which is an ironic excuse for how they treat our shared reality and, what's worse, they won't admit it.

Your frustration is shared by everyone who cares about creating a more rational human future.
 
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