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Massacres in Myanmar[W:99]

PeteEU said:
Yes. I have Turkish friends in Turkey and we use to talk politics and related issues (mostly tech), but now days since the failed coup and the crack down, we have on social media and so on, stuck to liking food pictures and newly wed pictures, as I dont want to get them in trouble or arrested. They know they are being watched (everyone is) by the government, so their whole tone and attitude has changed. It is only when you get to talk them one to one outside Turkey, that they finally are able to vent.
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Heck, even Turkish friends in Germany (they're by now the bulk of those I get to talk to) have meanwhile become wary to the point of making sure they're not being eaves-dropped when speaking freely.

At the suggestion of one of them I installed an email encryption that we now both use when conversing.

Paranoid?

Maybe but she has family back home and (as the saying goes) being paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Sorry but that is bs. The world DID ignore the war in Bosnia for a while, and it was only as a reaction to the influx of refugees into the EU/EEC, that the rest of the world started to give a damn and do something about it. Yea the UN tried, but was blocked by both the US and USSR/Russia and China, and it was only after Srebrenica that and the increased refugee load, that "the world" did something and forced both sides to the negotiation table.
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So the claim of the world ignoring the Bosnian war remains untrue.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming the issue was addressed with the urgency required and thus I'm not claiming that the international community covered itself in glory.

That the world ignored the whole tragedy is however as untrue as the claim that it's now ignoring the tragic fate of the Rohingya. Aid agencies have been active in Myanmar for a long time as have been diplomatic efforts to alleviate the situation.

With media access (and any other form of access) being as problematic as it currently is, getting an objective view of the picture is just as problematic.

As such:
The problem is, according to the BBC's south-east Asia correspondent Jonathan Head, "much of it is wrong". A closer look reveals many - but not all - of the pictures come from other crises around the world, with one tweeted by Turkey's Deputy Prime Minister Mehmet Simsek dating back to the Rwandan genocide in 1994.
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Rohingya crisis: Suu Kyi says 'fake news helping terrorists' - BBC News

Which, where massacres are undisputedly happening, closes the circle to Turkey yet again and let's once more see the OP complain about her threads always being derailed back to that country.

If this were an issue involving Russia I'd be inclined to suspect Olgino involvement.
 
Chagos said:
Where, having Turkish friends myself, I've always understood that point, I'd expect, however, anyone thus endangered not to publicly open any can of worms either in the manner that it's been done here.
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I agree and have mentioned that in the past.
 
The Western establishment media is portraying Muslims entirely as the victims of the violence in Myanmar. Reality is not so simple. The Rohingyas actually began this present conflict: AP reported on August 25 that “Ethnic Rohingya militants in western Myanmar launched overnight attacks on more than two dozen police and border outposts, leaving 71 people dead, the government said Friday, in a significant escalation of their armed struggle.” If they were not waging jihad against the Myanmar government and non-Muslims in the country, there would be peace.
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https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/myanmar-muslims-murder-dozens-of-hindus
 
Tigerace117 said:
Aw, what a surprise, your hate spewing websites are attempting to excuse genocide. What scum the bigots you support and emulate are.
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What hate? It looks like news to me. Find one hateful quote in that article. I'll wait.
 
Former State Dept Diplomat on Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar: 'I Don't Accept the Narrative'
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But Priscilla Clapp -- a 30-year State Department diplomat who served as U.S. chief of mission in Myanmar from 1999-2002, and now is a senior adviser at the U.S. Institute for Peace -- is pushing back on the claims of the media and human rights groups.

In a Thursday appearance on France 24, Clapp said that Kyi had been working with a United Nations commission led by former Secretary General Kofi Annan on peace efforts in the region. According to Clapp, the recent large-scale attacks by foreign-funded Islamic terrorist groups targeting Myanmar's security forces, which sparked the current crisis, were purposefully timed to derail those efforts.
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https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...hingya-muslims-myanmar-dont-accept-narrative/
 
coldjoint said:
What hate? It looks like news to me. Find one hateful quote in that article. I'll wait.
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You attempting to justify genocide by making the utterly false claim that those being wiped out are the ones "starting the violence" is pretty clearly hateful.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You attempting to justify genocide by making the utterly false claim that those being wiped out are the ones "starting the violence" is pretty clearly hateful.
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I asked you to find a hateful quote. Looks like you could not.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Gee, somebody who spent years working with the vicious juntas who ran that country is spreading the standard issue line? Shocking :roll:
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The article specifies the UN and its involvement. Are they part of the vicious juntas?
 
coldjoint said:
I asked you to find a hateful quote. Looks like you could not.
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Looks like you lack the very basic skill of reading comprehension, because I literally just did.
 
coldjoint said:
The article specifies the UN and its involvement. Are they part of the vicious juntas?
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The UN has been notably ineffectual in dealing with vicious juntas like your new heroes in "Myanmar".
 
Tigerace117 said:
The UN has been notably ineffectual in dealing with vicious juntas like your new heroes in "Myanmar".
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No kidding? Maybe because the UN is an Islamist puppet.
 
coldjoint said:
No kidding? Maybe because the UN is an Islamist puppet.
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Utter bullcrap, as usual.

Yet more nonsense from you because you are upset the UN doesn't support your thugs.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Looks like you lack the very basic skill of reading comprehension, because I literally just did.
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"Literally just did" is still not a quote. Still waiting.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Utter bullcrap, as usual.

Yet more nonsense from you because you are upset the UN doesn't support your thugs.
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Are you saying they support your thugs? They most certainly do.
 
coldjoint said:
"Literally just did" is still not a quote. Still waiting.
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You clearly can't read then bud. Perhaps you should go back to the post where l laid out the very clear reasons why your attempt to justify genocide is wrong.
 
coldjoint said:
Are you saying they support your thugs? They most certainly do.
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My "thugs"? Oh, you mean the innocent, unarmed civilians who are being murdered by your heroes. But then again, we all know you much you support attacking people who don't fight back.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You clearly can't read then bud. Perhaps you should go back to the post where l laid out the very clear reasons why your attempt to justify genocide is wrong.
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I asked you to prove what you said. You cannot.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You asked me to help you with basic reading, because I already did. Perhaps you should go back to school.
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It is not my fault the Buddhists and Hindus have had enough of Islam and its specious victim hood and decided to fight back. That you cannot accept the fact that violent jihad met with violence is a forgone conclusion for some and the best way to signal Islam, or Muslims, they are just not wanted in Myanmar.
 
Medusa said:
Buddhism never helps these monsters be human ? just like in Bosnia ,the world keeps ignoring this tragedy...
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Yep. People sure like a good pogrom now and then, don't they. That's why the UN introduced responsibility to protect into it rule book in 2005. It's only that most nations don't take the UN very seriously.
 
coldjoint said:
It is not my fault the Buddhists and Hindus have had enough of Islam and its specious victim hood and decided to fight back. That you cannot accept the fact that violent jihad met with violence is a forgone conclusion for some and the best way to signal Islam, or Muslims, they are just not wanted in Myanmar.
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Your support of genocide and the murder of innocents because you are so fixated on your own hatred is disgusting.

That you can not accept the fact that murdering innocent people because yourself and the thugs who you support are too cowardly to fight anyone who can fight back--- as proven by your support for terrorism---- is also pathetic.

Perhaps we should start wiping out scum like your heroes. After all, that's the best way to show that they "aren't wanted" in this country--- right?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Your support of genocide and the murder of innocents because you are so fixated on your own hatred is disgusting.

That you can not accept the fact that murdering innocent people because yourself and the thugs who you support are too cowardly to fight anyone who can fight back--- as proven by your support for terrorism---- is also pathetic.

Perhaps we should start wiping out scum like your heroes. After all, that's the best way to show that they "aren't wanted" in this country--- right?
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I got news for you, my support of anything has 0 to do with the whitewashing the Royingya Muslims and the terror they support. Why you drag that into every conversation when it has nothing to do with the facts in any matter. Why you think it does only shows the weakness of your argument.
 
coldjoint said:
I got news for you, my support of anything has 0 to do with the whitewashing the Royingya Muslims and the terror they support. Why you drag that into every conversation when it has nothing to do with the facts in any matter. Why you think it does only shows the weakness of your argument.
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Your support terrorism and genocide as well. You are so desperate to see Muslims--- any Muslims--- die that you are cheerleading for a vicious, brutal regime which horrifically oppresses its own people.

You wouldn't know a fact if it whacked you upside the head.
 
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