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National Prayer Day

MaggieD

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Can you imagine the prayers going out today in churches across the country? Talk about a prayer chain. Here's one I found that kind of said it all...

"May the city of Houston and the people of Texas set an example of how to deal with tragedy. May the "Don't mess with Texas" motto be shouted out as a defying call to the powers of darkness that, through God's grace, they will not overcome. The state of Texas will blaze together toward recovery.

May the buildings be rebuilt. May the houses be restored. May the injured be healed. [May the rescuers and all who volunteer be protected.] And may this broken nation be bound back together by the resilient example of the great state of Texas [and the tens of thousands of others across our country who have extended their hands to aid and comfort in friendship.]

The handling of this national disaster should uplift every one of us. We have a lot to be proud of in the midst of this tragedy.

What do you think about the President's proclamation?
 
Many, many people who are struggling with the after effects of Harvey will be uplifted
and even if just for a minute that may bring a little comfort to anyone in need. The power of prayer should not be underestimated.
 
People who believe that their prayers can move God to act in ways in which he wouldn't have acted otherwise have been praying away ever since Harvey first hit. People who don't believe that presumably haven't been praying much. The PG-in-C proclaiming a day of prayer will not change anything.

And it seems a little late for this sort of thing anyway. If days of prayer did any good, wouldn't it have been more useful to have one back when the storm was approaching? Maybe we could have convinced God to change His mind about the whole thing before any damage was done.
 
I think the whole idea is stupid. The only reason prayer exists is to comfort people who are unwilling or unable to get off their lazy asses and actually do something to help. It doesn't actually accomplish anything.
 
Can you imagine the prayers going out today in churches across the country? Talk about a prayer chain. Here's one I found that kind of said it all...



The handling of this national disaster should uplift every one of us. We have a lot to be proud of in the midst of this tragedy.

What do you think about the President's proclamation?

This disaster has brought out the best in many. The selfless, compassionate deeds of kindness of many has been wonderful to see. And I pray the army of volunteers and generous givers continues in the days and months ahead for those who lost so much
 
People who believe that their prayers can move God to act in ways in which he wouldn't have acted otherwise have been praying away ever since Harvey first hit. People who don't believe that presumably haven't been praying much. The PG-in-C proclaiming a day of prayer will not change anything.

And it seems a little late for this sort of thing anyway. If days of prayer did any good, wouldn't it have been more useful to have one back when the storm was approaching? Maybe we could have convinced God to change His mind about the whole thing before any damage was done.

Oh but you are so wrong. Prayer can and does work but it's not used to make things perfect 100% of the time.
 
Oh but you are so wrong. Prayer can and does work but it's not used to make things perfect 100% of the time.

Oh. Okay. Well then what is the percentage, more or less, that prayer is "used to make things perfect"?
 
It's not so much a hope for God to fix ****, as it is a simple, and free way to express love and hope for the wellbeing of others.

Words cost nothing, and can do so much. They can cause harm or heal, uplift, motivate and inspire, all for next to no effort.

If you're in a bad spot, sometimes just knowing about the army of people hoping for the best for you can be the difference between hope and despair.
 
It's not so much a hope for God to fix ****, as it is a simple, and free way to express love and hope for the wellbeing of others.

Words cost nothing, and can do so much. They can cause harm or heal, uplift, motivate and inspire, all for next to no effort.

If you're in a bad spot, sometimes just knowing about the army of people hoping for the best for you can be the difference between hope and despair.

Very well said.
 
It's not so much a hope for God to fix ****, as it is a simple, and free way to express love and hope for the wellbeing of others.

Words cost nothing, and can do so much. They can cause harm or heal, uplift, motivate and inspire, all for next to no effort.

If you're in a bad spot, sometimes just knowing about the army of people hoping for the best for you can be the difference between hope and despair.

So then prayer is kind of a best wishes, we are with you card designed to give encouragement to the afflicted?
 
So then prayer is kind of a best wishes, we are with you card designed to give encouragement to the afflicted?

A lot of times, yeah. I mean, I don't want to speak for others, I'm no longer religious....but when I was, I never expected God to say "Well gosh, that Kevin, he made one hell of a prayer effort, I think I'll look into this...", it really was more about finding a way to express well wishes for others.
 
I think the whole idea is stupid. The only reason prayer exists is to comfort people who are unwilling or unable to get off their lazy asses and actually do something to help. It doesn't actually accomplish anything.

My own feeling is that prayer exists primarily to comfort the person offering it up.
 
A lot of times, yeah. I mean, I don't want to speak for others, I'm no longer religious....but when I was, I never expected God to say "Well gosh, that Kevin, he made one hell of a prayer effort, I think I'll look into this...", it really was more about finding a way to express well wishes for others.

So it doesn't sound to me like God is really involved here. Or needs to be.
 
Can you imagine the prayers going out today in churches across the country? Talk about a prayer chain. Here's one I found that kind of said it all...



The handling of this national disaster should uplift every one of us. We have a lot to be proud of in the midst of this tragedy.

What do you think about the President's proclamation?

Prayers don't mean anything unless it is backed by actions. I am more impressed by the fact that congress was able to get their bipartisanship working, and putting an initial budget of 7.6 billion dollars (to start) for disaster relief and repair. It needs a lot more, and I hope they don't use it to play politics with the debt limit. I am also thankful for the hard work the Cajun Navy put in to rescue people, and FEMA for helping food and shelter. Now, those are uplifting.
 
Prayers don't mean anything unless it is backed by actions. I am more impressed by the fact that congress was able to get their bipartisanship working, and putting an initial budget of 7.6 billion dollars (to start) for disaster relief and repair. It needs a lot more, and I hope they don't use it to play politics with the debt limit. I am also thankful for the hard work the Cajun Navy put in to rescue people, and FEMA for helping food and shelter. Now, those are uplifting.

Yes, they most certainly are.
 
Can you imagine the prayers going out today in churches across the country? Talk about a prayer chain. Here's one I found that kind of said it all...
most prayers are invoked in the quest for positive outcomes ['smite my enemies' is one of the exceptions]
for believers to hold positive beliefs is a good thing
for those prayers to have no effect still does no harm
so, why not



The handling of this national disaster should uplift every one of us. We have a lot to be proud of in the midst of this tragedy.

What do you think about the President's proclamation?
and this answers my question of 'why not?'
our government officials should not be invoking religious positions and provoking religious actions while in their official capacity
we have the clergy for this sort of religious leadership
tRump should stick to governance and stay away from religious proclamations
 
most prayers are invoked in the quest for positive outcomes ['smite my enemies' is one of the exceptions]
for believers to hold positive beliefs is a good thing
for those prayers to have no effect still does no harm
so, why not

and this answers my question of 'why not?'
our government officials should not be invoking religious positions and provoking religious actions while in their official capacity
we have the clergy for this sort of religious leadership
tRump should stick to governance and stay away from religious proclamations

I wouldn't criticize him for it, but as thought the same thing...
 
My own feeling is that prayer exists primarily to comfort the person offering it up.

So they can feel good about doing absolutely nothing useful.
 
I have seen the power of prayer firsthand. A prayer of a righteous person can be quite powerful.
 
I have seen the power of prayer firsthand. A prayer of a righteous person can be quite powerful.

This is interesting. Just a couple of questions to help me better understand all this.

What defines "righteousness" in this context?

"Powerful" prayer as opposed to what other kind(s) of prayer?

Any examples of powerful prayer in action?
 
I have seen the power of prayer firsthand. A prayer of a righteous person can be quite powerful.

Yeah, no you haven't. Prayer has never been shown to be effective, in fact, nothing fails like prayer. You almost certainly confuse correlation and causation.
 
I think the whole idea is stupid. The only reason prayer exists is to comfort people who are unwilling or unable to get off their lazy asses and actually do something to help. It doesn't actually accomplish anything.

And why did god send the hurricane in first place? He doesn't appear to be a nice guy.
 
And why did god send the hurricane in first place? He doesn't appear to be a nice guy.

I know you're kidding, but for the gullible, there is no evidence for gods, period. Blindly attributing a cause to an event because it makes you feel good is childish.
 
Well, whether one is prone to pray or not (in my case not), I've seen many get off their lazy asses (to quote a previous post) on account of having been triggered to do that by prayer, own and/or that of others.

In that sense I don't care what rattles the cage as long as it rattles.
 
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