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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    How did you fight it today?

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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    How did you fight it today?



    By not feeding the troll.



    (ie not going anywhere near that mess or dignifying any of the loonies, left or right, with my presence.)

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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Honestly, the klan using the cross as one of their symbols pisses me off more than anything any leftwinger or opposing political view ever has.
    Why is that? Does one sect of Christians have a monopoly on the use of symbols? I saw a Hindu symbol once that bore a striking resemblance to a swastika.

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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I don't know. I don't really know what white nationalists preach at all but if they attempt to use God as a way to justify their idiocy, maybe we, as people who they're supposedly speaking on behalf of, do have a greater responsibility to make it clear they're not speaking for anyone other than themselves.
    Nope I disagree. I don't feel any "greater" responsibility at all . . . why would I? There's no real reason to, no logic behind it. Theres good and bad. These nuts are bad, period. What they claim to be doesn't matter. What they are doing is wrong so I already feel a responsibility to oppose it.

    When a person is doing wrong them being a 5'8, black haired, white, christian, mother, engineer, right leaning, artistic, gun carrying, female doesn't inspire me extra to speak out against them because those things match me. No more that if they were 6'4, bald, black, muslim, single, police officer, left leaning, idealist, male who was doing wrong.
    None of those things have to do with the person being wrong
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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I never really understood the burning cross thing.
    Tell me you're kidding. Please tell me you're kidding. On the lawn of EVERY Methodist church in the county I live (which is very large, btw) you will see a cross with a flame at the bottom. It is symbolic for showing that Christ is the light of the world.

    I've been told the Lutherans use the symbol as well.

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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by The Resister View Post
    Tell me you're kidding. Please tell me you're kidding. On the lawn of EVERY Methodist church in the county I live (which is very large, btw) you will see a cross with a flame at the bottom. It is symbolic for showing that Christ is the light of the world.

    I've been told the Lutherans use the symbol as well.

    That's kind of different from setting a cross on fire as a way of saying "better watch out we don't like your kind." Jesus' message of light, love and mercy isn't very compatible with the stuff the Klan stands for.

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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    That's kind of different from setting a cross on fire as a way of saying "better watch out we don't like your kind." Jesus' message of light, love and mercy isn't very compatible with the stuff the Klan stands for.
    I hate it when this level of dishonesty compels me to have to defend others I'm not a part of.

    The KKK's use of the lighted cross is just as sacred as the Methodists using it. OTOH, the reconstituted KKK was an offshoot of the Masons. So, I suppose that you could demonize the Masons and include the KKK along with them.

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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by The Resister View Post
    I hate it when this level of dishonesty compels me to have to defend others I'm not a part of.

    The KKK's use of the lighted cross is just as sacred as the Methodists using it. OTOH, the reconstituted KKK was an offshoot of the Masons. So, I suppose that you could demonize the Masons and include the KKK along with them.

    Dishonesty? Bud, you don't know me. I'm probably the most honest person on DP.


    I may be mistaken at times but I never knowingly lie.


    I never claimed to be expert on what this cross-burning stuff is about, if you will recall I specifically said I didn't understand it. My previous post expressed an OPINION based on available data...



    You might want to backtrack a little on that before you bite off more than you can chew.

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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Dishonesty? Bud, you don't know me. I'm probably the most honest person on DP.


    I may be mistaken at times but I never knowingly lie.



    You might want to backtrack a little on that before you bite off more than you can chew.
    Okay, then we can say you are "mistaken." I know people on both sides of the political fence. There are some ADL Jews whose morals are lower than most white supremacists. There are guys in the KKK who have ministries that are certainly no more hateful than Jews, Muslims or atheists.

    I think it's become fashionable to condemn the whites for their alleged racism and give everyone else a free pass. When there is contention and divisiveness, everybody has contributed. In my experience, those pretending to condemn white racism the loudest are, many times, those who have the most to hide.

    "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." Matthew 6 :24

    The current conservative (sic) ideology that was taken from the white supremacists should be abandoned OR they should embrace their brethren without stipulations.

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    Re: White Christian conservatives should oppose protests by white supremacists

    Quote Originally Posted by The Resister View Post
    I hate it when this level of dishonesty compels me to have to defend others I'm not a part of.

    The KKK's use of the lighted cross is just as sacred as the Methodists using it. OTOH, the reconstituted KKK was an offshoot of the Masons. So, I suppose that you could demonize the Masons and include the KKK along with them.
    Nothing the KKK does is "sacred". Its actions are a perversion of Christianity.

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