People Who Talk Are Bad, People Who Shoot Misunderstood[W:499]

Chagos · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
I see, you do not think terrorists are lunatics. Are they anymore sane than the people from that source? Mental illness is a common excuse after a terror attack. But the person that did it is crazy not the religion that inspired him?

Trying to put words into other peoples' mouths shows you to be doing nothing other than lying in the usual manner.

Where by now no confirmation is needed for that being the predominant behaviour, DO continue.

Chagos · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
Oh cool a six year old poll.:lamo Jihad is on the rise and that is another unpleasant truth.

Then you can no doubt cite PEW where it meanwhile addresses the "deterioration"?

They do upgrade continuously, you know.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Re: People Who Talk Are Bad, People Who Shoot Misunderstood

Chagos said:
Lying bovine manure Lying bovine manure

No, it is not. Christians were replaced by Muslims. How can you deny that? Why didn't Christianity keep up? I hear Islam coexists wonderfully. It sucked to be Christian is why. They were driven out, killed or converted.

What are the percentages of Muslim and Christian in those countries today?

Fledermaus · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
Is this something else to distract me and others from the topic? You have nothing to say but this? Why are you here?

The topic is silencing people who haven't really been silenced.

So who has been SILENCED?

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Chagos said:
Trying to put words into other peoples' mouths shows you to be doing nothing other than lying in the usual manner.

Where by now no confirmation is needed for that being the predominant behaviour, DO continue.

Ironic.

Chagos · May 22, 2017

Re: People Who Talk Are Bad, People Who Shoot Misunderstood

coldjoint said:
No, it is not. Christians were replaced by Muslims. How can you deny that? Why didn't Christianity keep up? I hear Islam coexists wonderfully. It sucked to be Christian is why. They were driven out, killed or converted.

Supplementing a lie

Egypt a Christian majority, gone.

Turkey, Christians gone.

with another lie is a good way of carrying on.

Well done.

Chagos · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
Ironic.

No irony, your dishonesty comes across as being most consistent.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Fledermaus said:
The topic is silencing people who haven't really been silenced.

So who has been SILENCED?

Ali Hirsi, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Bridget Gabriel, Tommy Robinson, and others with enough integrity and courage to tell the truth about Islam. And place the blame where it belongs.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Chagos said:
No irony, your dishonesty comes across as being most consistent.

No, it your avoidance of every question that is obvious. That is dishonest.

Fledermaus · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
Ali Hirsi, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Bridget Gabriel, Tommy Robinson, and others with enough integrity and courage to tell the truth about Islam. And place the blame where it belongs.

They are SILENCED?

Citation?

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Re: People Who Talk Are Bad, People Who Shoot Misunderstood

Chagos said:
Supplementing a lie
with another lie is a good way of carrying on.

Well done.

It is not a lie. Look at those countries today. It does not happen overnight but it happens through saturation. It happens because minorities are persecuted. Islam is more guilty of that than any Western country.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Fledermaus said:
They are SILENCED?

Citation?

US bloggers banned from entering UK

Can't yell across the pond. That is silencing.
US bloggers banned from entering UK - BBC News

Have you seen the demonstrations or those people shouted down? You certainly should have if you are informed on the topic. Which is it?

How about the bloggers that are killed for blasphemy? Every few months that happens. Death means silenced.

Chagos · May 22, 2017

Re: People Who Talk Are Bad, People Who Shoot Misunderstood

coldjoint said:
It is not a lie. Look at those countries today. It does not happen overnight but it happens through saturation. It happens because minorities are persecuted. Islam is more guilty of that than any Western country.

Lo and behold, the coldjoint dishonesty circus in full swing.

Claiming that Christians in Egypt are gone and that Christians in Turkey are gone and then claiming that statement to not constitute lying.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Re: People Who Talk Are Bad, People Who Shoot Misunderstood

Chagos said:
Lo and behold, the coldjoint dishonesty circus in full swing.

Claiming that Christians in Egypt are gone and that Christians in Turkey are gone and then claiming that statement to not constitute lying.

There are some there. I never said anything but the Christian presence is a ghost of what it used to be and Islam will do that to any culture when it gains the majority. What I am saying and you are conflating are different. And you chose to call it a lie. I call it a fact.

Chagos · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
Can't yell across the pond. That is silencing.
US bloggers banned from entering UK - BBC News

Looks like the UK took their cue from US immigration "rules".

Like the insane not being allowed into the US either.

Frankly, I'd have let them in and talk. No better way of showing them up for the idiots they are than by letting them show that themselves.

Chagos · May 22, 2017

Re: People Who Talk Are Bad, People Who Shoot Misunderstood

coldjoint said:
There are some there. I never said anything but the Christian presence is a ghost of what it used to be and Islam will do that to any culture when it gains the majority. What I am saying and you are conflating are different. And you chose to call it a lie. I call it a fact.

You said this

Egypt a Christian majority, gone.

Turkey, Christians gone.

Coming up now and saying you didn't is yet another lie.

No conflation there at all, just a demonstration of what you said and how you now claim you didn't.

Fledermaus · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
Can't yell across the pond. That is silencing.
US bloggers banned from entering UK - BBC News

Have you seen the demonstrations or those people shouted down? You certainly should have if you are informed on the topic. Which is it?

How about the bloggers that are killed for blasphemy? Every few months that happens. Death means silenced.

So, they weren't SILENCED, they were denied entry into the UK.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

At 5:20 he hits the nail on the head.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Fledermaus said:
So, they weren't SILENCED, they were denied entry into the UK.

Denied entry and defamed with no chance to speak for themselves in England. And the dead ones are they silent enough for you?

Chagos · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
At 5:20 he hits the nail on the head.

Apart from my not going to waste 12 minutes of my life on this idiot, the "incident" of his having been poisoned has already been covered at length.

There is no proof he was "slipped" anything at all and his claim that whatever cocktail was found in him by medical analysis as having contained Ritalin is already debunked.

The dishonesty circus thus continues.

Chagos · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
Denied entry and defamed with no chance to speak for themselves in England. And the dead ones are they silent enough for you?

Spencer and Geller are dead?

Oh dear.

:mrgreen:

Fledermaus · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
Denied entry and defamed with no chance to speak for themselves in England. And the dead ones are they silent enough for you?

In other words THEY WEREN'T SILENCED.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Chagos said:
Apart from my not going to waste 12 minutes of my life on this idiot, the "incident" of his having been poisoned has already been covered at length.

There is no proof he was "slipped" anything at all and his claim that whatever cocktail was found in him by medical analysis as having contained Ritalin is already debunked.

The dishonesty circus thus continues.

What is the waste of time? That he disagrees with you about Islam and the way the media treats the critics? This is about a lot more than this incident and you never said or debunked why Ritalin was mentioned when it did not come up in the scan.

If you want to use this to characterize Spencer or me as dishonest you need to realize you are just avoiding a much bigger problem you refuse to discuss. And also admitting that you do it deliberately. Thanks for nothing again.

coldjoint · May 22, 2017

Chagos said:
Spencer and Geller are dead?

Oh dear.

:mrgreen:

No. The bloggers in Pakistan, Lebanon, and Bangladesh. Oh dear, is that funny too?

Chagos · May 22, 2017

coldjoint said:
What is the waste of time? That he disagrees with you about Islam and the way the media treats the critics? This is about a lot more than this incident and you never said or debunked why Ritalin was mentioned when it did not come up in the scan.

because it was alleged to have been slipped to him and wasn't.

Spencer: I was slipped Ritalin

medical analysis: nope, you weren't.

If you want to use this to characterize Spencer or me as dishonest you need to realize you are just avoiding a much bigger problem you refuse to discuss. And also admitting that you do it deliberately. Thanks for nothing again.

If lies are told on comparatively minor incidents like this one, why would I believe him or any of his gang on bigger items?