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ISIS: The Embodiment of Islam [W 11]

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coldjoint said:
Who is talking about America? Is that some sort of excuse for Islamic terror? Islam owns what it says, that is the point here.
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I am trying to point out to you that Islam is not evil but some of its adherents are just as some adherents of other religions are evil. Does Christianity own what it says?
 
zyzygy said:
I am trying to point out to you that Islam is not evil but some of its adherents are just as some adherents of other religions are evil. Does Christianity own what it says?
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Yes it does. Why wouldn't it?
 
Porkuloss said:
Anyone can pick most any religion's text, selectively quote it and make it seem insane. Try the Bible. I'd suggest Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and the Book of Revelation. Want some cute, homicide, infanticide, stoning of brides that don't "bleed"? Those are parts of Geller's "book". Maybe you need to terminate her.

Actually, you need a new obsession.
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A very trenchant observation.
 
zyzygy said:
As do all my Muslim friends and acquaintances. Another Coldjoint fail.
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They sponsor and run a free clinic here.

It's too bad that a bunch of whackos are promoting violence in the name of Islam, and something needs to be done about it, but pretending that the religion and all of its followers need to be purged is like saying that should have been done to Christianity in the middle ages. Maybe we could have skipped the Dark Ages by killing millions and burning their books? That's whacked.
 
zyzygy said:
https://www.rt.com/news/190468-muslim-scholars-islamic-state/

How To Stop ISIS: It Is Not Just Un-Islamic, It Is Anti-Islamic | Time.com
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Islam prohibits the extremism exhibited by ISIS. An essential part of the faith is moderation.
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^from your source.

I recall Muhammad saying he had been made victorious with terror. What is more extreme than that?
"And fight in the cause of God those who fight against you, and do not commit aggression. Indeed God does not love those who are aggressors," (The Quran, 2:190).
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That verse has been abrogated. It was replaced by these.
Surely the number of months with Allah is twelve months in Allah's ordinance since the day when He created the heavens and the earth, of these four being sacred; that is the right reckoning; therefore be not unjust to yourselves regarding them, and fight the polytheists all together as they fight you all together; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
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That means Allah changed his mind.

Next, the author is the co-founder of CAIR. A sham civil rights organization of the Muslim Brotherhood.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Abrogations_in_the_Qur'an
 
Porkuloss said:
They sponsor and run a free clinic here.

It's too bad that a bunch of whackos are promoting violence in the name of Islam, and something needs to be done about it, but pretending that the religion and all of its followers need to be purged is like saying that should have been done to Christianity in the middle ages. Maybe we could have skipped the Dark Ages by killing millions and burning their books? That's whacked.
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He has said that Islam should be eliminated. I'll go along with that if all religions are eliminated.
 
zyzygy said:
He has said that Islam should be eliminated. I'll go along with that if all religions are eliminated.
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What I have said about Islam does not change what Islam itself says. If you think it does, tell me how, please.
 
coldjoint said:
^from your source.

I recall Muhammad saying he had been made victorious with terror. What is more extreme than that?


That verse has been abrogated. It was replaced by these.


That means Allah changed his mind.

Next, the author is the co-founder of CAIR. A sham civil rights organization of the Muslim Brotherhood.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Abrogations_in_the_Qur'an
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That is the same kind of nonsense that is found in the Bible.
 
Porkuloss said:
They sponsor and run a free clinic here.

It's too bad that a bunch of whackos are promoting violence in the name of Islam, and something needs to be done about it, but pretending that the religion and all of its followers need to be purged is like saying that should have been done to Christianity in the middle ages. Maybe we could have skipped the Dark Ages by killing millions and burning their books? That's whacked.
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Without Islam we could have skipped the Dark Ages.
 
zyzygy said:
That is the same kind of nonsense that is found in the Bible.
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Show me an abrogation from the Bible, or the Bible ever mentioning abrogation. I'll wait.
 
coldjoint said:
What I have said about Islam does not change what Islam itself says. If you think it does, tell me how, please.
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I am saying that only a tiny minority of Muslims turn to terrorism. The same thing applies to Christianity. Both religions have evil passages in their holy books. So by your logic Christianity should be eliminated too.
 
coldjoint said:
Again, what are these links besides excuses to ignore Islam because of other heinous acts? What kind of reasoning is that?
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He is linking a legitimate news site, not some racist wingnut blog.
 
zyzygy said:
He has said that Islam should be eliminated. I'll go along with that if all religions are eliminated.
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But then Xenu will be free to destroy the universe!!! :lamo
 
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