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it's just me said:

Psychobabble. A fetus' sex can be seen at 18-20 months. You are the one who is lying.

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The fetus doesn't know what it is yet. When it's "seen", it's seen through the muscle wall and uterine wall of a woman. To see a fetus, a woman must allow you to do so. For one to be born, a woman must allow it. Your lie is especially bad because it completely ignores that women exist first and foremost and have the right to continue to do so.

D_NATURED said:

The fetus doesn't know what it is yet. When it's "seen", it's seen through the muscle wall and uterine wall of a woman. To see a fetus, a woman must allow you to do so. For one to be born, a woman must allow it. Your lie is especially bad because it completely ignores that women exist first and foremost and have the right to continue to do so.

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How dare you? How dare you presume to know what I think about women existing or not existing? Your posts are the worst kind of brainless group think and I have had enough of you.

it's just me said:

This is what makes dealing with you maddening. I am not dishonest for disagreeing with you, I believe all life is sacred, and you can nitpick all you want to but a human fetus is most certainly a human being. Perhaps not a fully grown human being, but a human being nonetheless.

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From a legal stand point, no. A potental human being, but not yet a human being.

When you know a someone who died in childbirth, and you see how that effects the family, it sort of gives you a different outlook on that subject.

RAMOSS said:

From a legal stand point, no. A potental human being, but not yet a human being.

When you know a someone who died in childbirth, and you see how that effects the family, it sort of gives you a different outlook on that subject.

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When you put water outside in below freezing temperatures is there any doubt it will turn to ice?

RAMOSS said:

From a legal stand point, no. A potental human being, but not yet a human being.

When you know a someone who died in childbirth, and you see how that effects the family, it sort of gives you a different outlook on that subject.

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And when you have had your own offspring aborted without your advice or consent for no good reason it gives you yet another outlook.

it's just me said:

And when you have had your own offspring aborted without your advice or consent for no good reason it gives you yet another outlook.

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And, how do you know I haven't?

And, just to point otu, they aren't OFFSPRING until they are actually, you know , born.

RAMOSS said:

And, how do you know I haven't?

And, just to point otu, they aren't OFFSPRING until they are actually, you know , born.

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Well, we will never know whether they would or would not have been "offspring", will we, since they are gone, although not forgotten.

The point is, having been left alone they would have had a better chance than not.

it's just me said:

I think you mean that I don't have to use your definitions, and you are welcome to not use mine. Let's just let it go at that.

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But his are legal and yours are nonsense. They have absolutely zero legal weight. You're welcome to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Cephus said:

But his are legal and yours are nonsense. They have absolutely zero legal weight. You're welcome to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

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No, mine are moral and his are not. And we will see about what is legal and what isn't, won't we?

it's just me said:

No, mine are moral and his are not. And we will see about what is legal and what isn't, won't we?

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Pardon, but your claims for being 'moral' is does not stand up to objective examination.

If the Yazidi sez slaves escape, they better not try the USA for help, they're banned.

RAMOSS said:

Pardon, but your claims for being 'moral' is does not stand up to objective examination.

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When you find an objective observer let me know. Until then, I am going to be just as intransigent as you are. I'm right, you're wrong, that's the end of the story.

it's just me said:

When you find an objective observer let me know. Until then, I am going to be just as intransigent as you are. I'm right, you're wrong, that's the end of the story.

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To me, it is the exact opposite way around, and that's the end of the story.

it's just me said:

No, mine are moral and his are not. And we will see about what is legal and what isn't, won't we?

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Morality is subjective and irrelevant to any worthwhile discussion. Try being rational for once.

Cephus said:

Morality is subjective and irrelevant to any worthwhile discussion. Try being rational for once.

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In case you don't remember where you are this is a religion forum, morality is part of the deal. Don't like it? Go bother somebody else.

RAMOSS said:

To me, it is the exact opposite way around, and that's the end of the story.

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I knew it all along.

it's just me said:

In case you don't remember where you are this is a religion forum, morality is part of the deal. Don't like it? Go bother somebody else.

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No, this is the "religion and politics" forum. The religion forum is elsewhere.

it's just me said:

How dare you? How dare you presume to know what I think about women existing or not existing? Your posts are the worst kind of brainless group think and I have had enough of you.

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Wow, the dissection of your rhetoric must have struck a nerve. It's pretty easy to presume what someone thinks when they think so little that they allow arguments like what you've presented here to be written straight-faced. When you claim that half of all fetuses are WOMEN, you have allowed anyone who reads it to presume that you are not a serious adult but a zealot. Your comment about group think is obvious projection. Very few people are brave enough to embrace the fact that fetuses have ZERO rights to live as long as they pose an existential threat to real, actual women.

To say I've had enough of you ignores how many others like you I've also had my fill of. Each bumper sticker argument that is created by the right is just another distraction that they share amongst themselves to draw our eyes away from the way they diminish women so matter-of-fact. The lie that a fetus could EVER be the equivalent of a grown woman should be all anyone needs to know about the relative humanity of the person who says it.

It's not a presumption by myself, it's an admission by your self that you don't give a **** about women.