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Why would someone make up the story of Jesus? [W:324]

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If you believe Jesus isn't/wasn't real, who made Him up and for what purpose?
 
The same reason why anyone creates a religion, money, power, influence. And the only thing you have to provide is "faith." Religion is a very powerful tool in the sense you could sway an individuals morality by telling him what god thinks or says on an issue.
 
CMPancake said:
The same reason why anyone creates a religion, money, power, influence. And the only thing you have to provide is "faith." Religion is a very powerful tool in the sense you could sway an individuals morality by telling him what god thinks or says on an issue.
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So who then got all of the money, power, and influence by making up this story?
 
I don't think Jesus (or the man who claimed to be the son of God) was made up. The supernatural acts he was rumored to perform likely were. The motivation for fabricating miraculous events were the same as tall tales told today (fame, financial gain, confirmation bias).
 
a351 said:
I don't think Jesus (or the man who claimed to be the son of God) was made up. The supernatural acts he was rumored to perform likely were. The motivation for fabricating miraculous events were the same as tall tales told today (fame, financial gain, confirmation bias).
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Who received the fame and financial gain for making up the supernatural acts?
 
No idea why someone would. Also I dont know if it was just one person. Also dont know if it happened all at once, could of developed over years.
I honestly just dont believe someone could walk on water, heal the blind, was killed, rose from the dead, turned water into wine, fed 5,000 people with 2 fish and a five loaves of bread... Oh and after he did all these supposed super awesome things, he kinda just "ascended into heaven". And there is also the whole thing of because of this story one must "have aboslute faith in this story, dont question it" or you will burn in hell for eternity. But dont worry this super cool guy named Jesus (God) still loves you, even though he can see you burning in agony and has the power to rescue you.... But just wont cuz he got jealous because you questioned his authority.
 
JC Callender said:
Go out and start living as Jesus would want you to and then ask yourself what's harder.
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For me, it's not even a contest, it's much easier to live in world of science and math because it's validity can be tested and retested. Whereas, religion is mostly just lazy thinking, imo. Although, I must say those creationists are getting very creative.


Type "what happened to the dinosaurs?" into Google and see what tops the list....
 
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JC Callender said:
So who then got all of the money, power, and influence by making up this story?
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As a specific example? The Catholic Church. But it's well documented across human history the priests, shamans, spiritual and religious figures were very powerful and very much influential to the culture around them.
 
JC Callender said:
If you believe Jesus isn't/wasn't real, who made Him up and for what purpose?
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Who made up Zeus and Jupiter and Isis and Thor? Or do you believe in all of them, too?
 
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JC Callender said:
If you believe Jesus isn't/wasn't real, who made Him up and for what purpose?
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I think it is a mixture of mythologizing after the fact, devotees spreading rumors which become doctrine, self-serving invention, and despair that drove the creation of Christian mythology. Similar to other religions. It isn't as though it is 'one' big lie. Like many things it comes from a confluence of sources and circumstances.
 
Sherman123 said:
I think it is a mixture of mythologizing after the fact, devotees spreading rumors which become doctrine, self-serving invention, and despair that drove the creation of Christian mythology. Similar to other religions. It isn't as though it is 'one' big lie. Like many things it comes from a confluence of sources and circumstances.
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There's many theories like this, but zero evidence that backs them up. The evidence that the Gospel accounts are real outweighs the contrary theories.
 
Sherman123 said:
I think it is a mixture of mythologizing after the fact, devotees spreading rumors which become doctrine, self-serving invention, and despair that drove the creation of Christian mythology. Similar to other religions. It isn't as though it is 'one' big lie. Like many things it comes from a confluence of sources and circumstances.
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I view it along the same lines as 'why would anybody make up an Elvis sighting.?'
 
Logicman said:
There's many theories like this, but zero evidence that backs them up. The evidence that the Gospel accounts are real outweighs the contrary theories.
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Please, show the evidence that the stories about the resurrection is an actual happenstance, rather than wishful thinking, word games and religious dogma.
 
RAMOSS said:
Please, show the evidence that the stories about the resurrection is an actual happenstance, rather than wishful thinking, word games and religious dogma.
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Right after you divulge whether or not you believe in (a) god.
 
Sherman123 said:
I think it is a mixture of mythologizing after the fact, devotees spreading rumors which become doctrine, self-serving invention, and despair that drove the creation of Christian mythology. Similar to other religions. It isn't as though it is 'one' big lie. Like many things it comes from a confluence of sources and circumstances.
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Not wondering how the Christian religion evolved, just wondering who made up Jesus and why?
 
Krhazy said:
Who made up Zeus and Jupiter and Isis and Thor? Or do you believe in all of them, too?
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Where their followers persecuted and martyred for believing in them shortly after they were made up as well?
 
CMPancake said:
As a specific example? The Catholic Church. But it's well documented across human history the priests, shamans, spiritual and religious figures were very powerful and very much influential to the culture around them.
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So the Catholic Church got together before there was any such thing as Jesus and then made Him up?
 
JC Callender said:
So the Catholic Church got together before there was any such thing as Jesus and then made Him up?
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I didn't say that at all. I merely suggested that the Catholic Church, Scientologists, Islam, etc. Have everything to gain and nothing to lose to have people believe whatever brand of spirituality they're selling. Do you disagree with that notion?
 
Logicman said:
Right after you divulge whether or not you believe in (a) god.
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I see. This is what is known as 'Diversion of subject', because you can not show what you claim is the truth. This is highly predictable, and par in course. This is a pitiful transparent method of showing how poor your claims are.
 
JC Callender said:
Where their followers persecuted and martyred for believing in them shortly after they were made up as well?
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Well, what evidence do you have of the followers being persecuted and martyred, aside from claims from other Christians?
 
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