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AMA backs House health bill

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The influential American Medical Association on Thursday said it supported the healthcare overhaul legislation moving through committees in the Democratic-led House of Representatives and urged its approval.

"This legislation includes a broad range of provisions that are key to effective, comprehensive health system reform," AMA executive vice president Michael Maves wrote to the House committee leaders.

In particular, he said, the doctors' group backs the insurance market reforms that seek to expand healthcare coverage and the proposed health insurance exchange. In this exchange consumers would choose between private insurers and a public plan.

American Medical Association backs House health bill | Politics | Reuters




The AMA says yes. What do you say?

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It is quite dumb.

executive vice president Michael Maves does not express opinions of doctors as no doctor has ever delegated his voice on the legislation to Maves. I know it for sure, neither my physician nor my dentist did and they both explicitly expressed that with posting on their doors, - they are not excepting government insurance. ( I have to explain.I live in CT. We already have Public health care here .)

Also such an activity as delegating one's voice/represnting somebody's voice on a legislation in such a way is ABSOLUTELY illegal in the US.

This legislation has no provision or inclusion or even acknowledging of existence of customers. We, customers, have to eat what we are fed.

It is a law of Nature that there cannot be any competition between private insurers and the government plan when the government dictates the plan. It is a mere expression of fascism and there is not even a single, not even one, justone private insurer who buys into the idea that Obama can override laws of nature unless the private insurer fully insured, run, dictated by the government.


Michael Maves should be arrested on fraud and other charges and put in jail along with Obama, who must be impeached through the legal procedure first.
 
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If this Careless Health Plan for euthanasia and eugenics is past your health insurance company will be driven out of business and the exorbitant cost of the Socialist plan will help with the Dictator in Chief Obama's plane to destroy the counties economy and worse.
 
So the AMA top brass backs a bill that will never be read by those who will vote on it with God knows what provisions that will be sprung on unsuspecting people. A bill that will not cut medical costs but only services. I agree that it is quite stupid. It reminds me of some energy companies' CEOs backing the cap and trade bill in the same breath that they act like they care about indigent electric bill payers who cannot even now pay their energy bill. 1984's doublethink and newspeak are here to stay, it appears.
 
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If this Careless Health Plan for euthanasia and eugenics is past your health insurance company will be driven out of business and the exorbitant cost of the Socialist plan will help with the Dictator in Chief Obama's plane to destroy the counties economy and worse.

who the hell are you listening to?
 
executive vice president Michael Maves does not express opinions of doctors as no doctor has ever delegated his voice on the legislation to Maves. I know it for sure, neither my physician nor my dentist did and they both explicitly expressed that with posting on their doors, - they are not excepting government insurance. ( I have to explain.I live in CT. We already have Public health care here .)

both are obviously idiots

It is a law of Nature that there cannot be any competition between private insurers and the government plan when the government dictates the plan. It is a mere expression of fascism and there is not even a single, not even one, justone private insurer who buys into the idea that Obama can override laws of nature unless the private insurer fully insured, run, dictated by the government.

"law of nature?" Do you seriously hear yourself (read yourself)? How is a government, culturally constructed system part of "nature" and how are private insurance companies part of "nature." Of course the private insurers don't buy into it. They have blown it for the people whom they serve and now are being handed their asses as it should be. This is not part of "nature" as you say. What a stupid line of argument.

Michael Maves should be arrested on fraud and other charges and put in jail along with Obama, who must be impeached through the legal procedure first.

Why? Is that part of nature too? I say hand the insurance companies their asses.
 
Along with the majority(a growing one) of Americans I say-

No



CBO should have shot down the last fantasy of this with most people. As the CBO made clear 'ObamaCare' this will not save us money at all.


..and as others mentioned the pushers don't even know the contents of what they are pushing...HEROIN dealers have more respect for their buyers then those pushing this monstrosity have for you.
 
If this Careless Health Plan for euthanasia and eugenics is past your health insurance company will be driven out of business and the exorbitant cost of the Socialist plan will help with the Dictator in Chief Obama's plane to destroy the counties economy and worse.

:rofl

This is a joke right?

...Right?
 
who the hell are you listening to?

Unlike the Messiah in Chief Obama's disciples of which you seem to be a worshiping member I can think for my self and can tell you that this plan will drive all insurance companies out of business fine people who can't afford Socialist insurance $1000 they don't have, cost billions the country does not have and, force euthanasia to reduce costs of care for the elderly and leave out about 10 million people and most likely exempt the Congress from having to participate.
This is a purely Socialist plan the like of which in other countries costs more than they can afford. People who still believe the lies Obama tells every time he speaks are in a drunken like state mesmerized by by their Self proclaimed Muslim leader who will do what ever he can to drag this country down to the level of his native country of Kenya.
Oh you don't believe he's Kenyan? Then why did he order that the Major who filed the law suit have his orders revoked. Why did Obama personally order than the man be fired from his job in retaliation, and to send a warning to others not to force the liar in to court where he will be forced to tell the truth for the first time since be opened his lying mouth to run for an office he is unqualified and unfit to occupy.
Other than that he's a nice enough guy who cheats on his wife, and since she can't trust him why should we?
 
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Talk about flip-floppers!

Doctors’ Group Opposes Public Insurance Plan

By ROBERT PEAR
Published: June 10, 2009
WASHINGTON — As the health care debate heats up, the American Medical Association is letting Congress know that it will oppose creation of a government-sponsored insurance plan, which President Obama and many other Democrats see as an essential element of legislation to remake the health care system.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/us/politics/11health.html
 
We will see how much the AMA backs the bill when it goes into law.
 
I do not for one minute that the AMA polled their members on this subject and I doubt even further that the bought off VP of the AMA or any one else has the slightest clue of what is contained with in this Bill as those who are charged with voting on it will violate the public trust and cast a vote on this Bill as they did on Cap and Trade not knowing anymore about it than they are told and that includes not 2% of the actual Bill.
I believe it is high time that a law was passed that anyone voting on any Legislation must sign an affidavit stating that under penalty of removal from office and 5 years mandatory minimum prison term with no time off for good behavior and not subject to clemency or pardon of any kind and this garbage would be less likely to be pushed by people like Der Fuhrer in Chief Obama now and former Fuhrer Bush and his anti American Patriot Act.
Former Congressman Bob Barr told me that he was only one a less than 10 members who bothered to read any of the Patriot Act before voting on it.
This BS has got to stop. Obama is using massive fear tactics lies and out right classic propaganda to force his Anti American Socialist agenda down America's throat and it will choke the economy to death.

Barack Hussein Obama: "Mar 15, 2008 ... "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it".
This Careless Health Plan is one of his goals to make this wish come true.

Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth and it works; Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty and this works too.

"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they’ve tried everything else".
Sir Winston Churchill
 
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The influential American Medical Association on Thursday said it supported the healthcare overhaul legislation moving through committees in the Democratic-led House of Representatives and urged its approval.

I wonder what they were promised. It had to be something good.
 
This is quite a pleasant surprise. I expected the AMA to fight any meaningful health care reform tooth-and-nail, given some of their past statements. And the House bill is most definitely meaningful health care reform.

I am *much* more optimistic about a solid public plan getting through Congress, than I was even a week ago. It's hardly a done deal...but this is fantastic news. :)
 
This is quite a pleasant surprise. I expected the AMA to fight any meaningful health care reform tooth-and-nail, given some of their past statements. And the House bill is most definitely meaningful health care reform.

I am *much* more optimistic about a solid public plan getting through Congress, than I was even a week ago. It's hardly a done deal...but this is fantastic news. :)

You drink heavily from the kool-aide do you not?

Do you CARE what negative effects even the CBO is saying will occur should any of this happen? Or is it just government running more of our lives at any cost that excites you?
 
You drink heavily from the kool-aide do you not?

Do you CARE what negative effects even the CBO is saying will occur should any of this happen? Or is it just government running more of our lives at any cost that excites you?

There is already a thread on the CBO statements. As I mentioned in that thread, their estimates are really not that bad.
 
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