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Southwestern Pa. hospital to stop baby deliveries

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WINDBER, Pa. (AP) — A southwestern Pennsylvania hospital will stop delivering babies after March 31... because hospital officials believe they can't afford it based on projected reimbursements under looming federal health care reforms.


Hospital officials say the population of women of child-bearing age is dropping and that the number of births the hospital would be called upon to perform isn't enough for it to provide the service in the face of lower reimbursements under the federal Affordable Care Act.


The hospital delivered about 200 babies each year since restarting its obstetrics program in 2005

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Socialist care is wonderful isn't it?

Lowers costs and improves service. Not.

A distant government that knows nothing about business or your community knows best. Trust them. They've done miracles... like adding 16 trillion in debt, and 60 trillion in unfunded mandates... and have been busy slashing debt like butchers ROTFLOL... Now they're just beginning to sink their teeth into their decades long dream of Socialist health-kare. Oh... I'm just overjoyed by the prospects... aren't you?
 
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zimmer said:
Socialist care is wonderful isn't it?

Lowers costs and improves service. Not.

A distant government that knows nothing about business or your community knows best. Trust them. They've done miracles... like adding 16 trillion in debt, and 60 trillion in unfunded mandates... and have been busy slashing debt like butchers ROTFLOL... Now they're just beginning to sink their teeth into their decades long dream of Socialist health-kare. Oh... I'm just overjoyed by the prospects... aren't you?
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You seem to be mistaking socialism with capitalism. The do not make money delivering babies so they are going to stop. If it were state controlled they would be there because that is a service hospitals provide.
 
They can be transported to Altoona, Pittsburgh, or Morgantown I suppose which are close enough. Now if they stopped providing abortions, on the other hand, that is when the liberal poo would hit the fan.

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Fisher said:
They can be transported to Altoona, Pittsburgh, or Morgantown I suppose which are close enough. Now if they stopped providing abortions, on the other hand, that is when the liberal poo would hit the fan.

:sinking::hitsfan:
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It would still be lack of profits which is capitalism
 
Another one who doesn't know what socialism means!
 
tererun said:
You seem to be mistaking socialism with capitalism. The do not make money
delivering babies so they are going to stop. If it were state controlled they would be there because that is a service hospitals provide.
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A couple of years ago in Dallas's Parkland Hospital 3/4 of the babies born were born to illegal aliens.

Its hard to stay in bussiness when the State steps in and mandates services.

I betcha this Hospital is suffering from the same onslaught of leeching illegals looking for a free place to drop an anchor baby. Its just not "Pc" to mention it.
 
Fenton said:
A couple of years ago in Dallas's Parkland Hospital 3/4 of the babies born were born to illegal aliens.

Its hard to stay in bussiness when the State steps in and mandates services.

I betcha this Hospital is suffering from the same onslaught of leeching illegals looking for a free place to drop an anchor baby. Its just not "Pc" to mention it.
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When I googled info on the town, I was surprised they even have a hospital. It is a small small town.
 
tererun said:
You seem to be mistaking socialism with capitalism. The do not make money delivering babies so they are going to stop. If it were state controlled they would be there because that is a service hospitals provide.
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Government mandating that services must be rendered regardless of the ability to pay is not Capitalism. Capitalism would be all hospitals not publicly funding being able to kick leeches and moochers out the doors with nothing provided.

Personally, I like what they are doing. We should have a lot more hospitals/clinics/doctors close their emergency rooms (common way for uninsured to enter the system) and refuse to accept Medicaid. We would see a drastic drop in healthcare costs once all the leeches and moochers are out of the system.
 
Fenton said:
A couple of years ago in Dallas's Parkland Hospital 3/4 of the babies born were born to illegal aliens.

Its hard to stay in bussiness when the State steps in and mandates services.

I betcha this Hospital is suffering from the same onslaught of leeching illegals looking for a free place to drop an anchor baby. Its just not "Pc" to mention it.
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Still capitalism because socialism does not care.
 
DVSentinel said:
Government mandating that services must be rendered regardless of the ability to pay is not Capitalism. Capitalism would be all hospitals not publicly funding being able to kick leeches and moochers out the doors with nothing provided.

Personally, I like what they are doing. We should have a lot more hospitals/clinics/doctors close their emergency rooms (common way for uninsured to enter the system) and refuse to accept Medicaid. We would see a drastic drop in healthcare costs once all the leeches and moochers are out of the system.
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Again, under socialism they would just do it because the are there to do it. What you are talking about is capitalism.
 
tererun said:
Again, under socialism they would just do it because the are there to do it. What you are talking about is capitalism.
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Not real capitalism, regulated capitalism. It has far more in common with socialism than with unfettered capitalism.
 
Two hundred births a year isn't enough to maintain a safe service, keeping updated and dealing with the out of the ordinary is difficult with only one birth every other day. It's also too few to support training places.
 
zimmer said:
Socialist care is wonderful isn't it?

Lowers costs and improves service. Not.

A distant government that knows nothing about business or your community knows best. Trust them. They've done miracles... like adding 16 trillion in debt, and 60 trillion in unfunded mandates... and have been busy slashing debt like butchers ROTFLOL... Now they're just beginning to sink their teeth into their decades long dream of Socialist health-kare. Oh... I'm just overjoyed by the prospects... aren't you?
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Why are you assuming this will be a problem? They will still provide emergency care for those who don't plan ahead. That's the law. Every hospital doesn't have to do everything. That's part of our problem, in my opinion. I live in suburban Chicago. I have three major hospitals within three miles of my home.
 
DVSentinel said:
Not real capitalism, regulated capitalism. It has far more in common with socialism than with unfettered capitalism.
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It is still capitalism. It is not socialism. Broken capitalism cannot be said to be socialism working as intended. It is dishonest and wrong to make any claim it is.
 
DVSentinel said:
Government mandating that services must be rendered regardless of the ability to pay is not Capitalism. Capitalism would be all hospitals not publicly funding being able to kick leeches and moochers out the doors with nothing provided.

Personally, I like what they are doing. We should have a lot more hospitals/clinics/doctors close their emergency rooms (common way for uninsured to enter the system) and refuse to accept Medicaid. We would see a drastic drop in healthcare costs once all the leeches and moochers are out of the system.
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Capitalism would be allowing people to die bleeding because they're too poor to be saved, yes.

Government mandating that services must be rendered regardless of the ability to pay isn't socialism either because that isn't what socialism means.
 
MaggieD said:
Why are you assuming this will be a problem? They will still provide emergency care for those who don't plan ahead. That's the law. Every hospital doesn't have to do everything. That's part of our problem, in my opinion. I live in suburban Chicago. I have three major hospitals within three miles of my home.
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Read the OP and why they stopped. The stopped because of ObamaKare.

Study Canada's system, or Europe's. That's where we are headed... not improving... decaying.

There's a book out there called Code Blue... written by a Canadian who knows both the old US system and Canada's pathetic version of healthcare. Read it, or at least some article by the author.

I know the Canadian and some EU systems... as well as the US. Weez be farked... this is only the beginning.

Maggie... remember this day, and think back to it in 10-years, 15-years and 30-years should we not destroy ObamaKare.
 
Deuce said:
Capitalism would be allowing people to die bleeding because they're too poor to be saved, yes.

Government mandating that services must be rendered regardless of the ability to pay isn't socialism either because that isn't what socialism means.
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I didn't call it socialism, I called it regulated capitalism which has a lot in common with socialism. Both are progressive in nature until in one, socialism, the government owns it or regulated capitalism, the government doesn't out-right own it, but controls all aspects of it.

If someone, other than children, haven't done what is necessary to earn the benefit of healthcare, yep, don't care if they are denied. If you want it, earn it.
 
tererun said:
You seem to be mistaking socialism with capitalism. The do not make money delivering babies so they are going to stop. If it were state controlled they would be there because that is a service hospitals provide.
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Whatever you do, I hope the government steps in and reduces you to subsistence level. Beans, rice and water for you. You can take public transport and live in a government sanctioned cave... because otherwise you are making a profit on the backs of others.

Do you know how miserably government controlled healthcare has failed? Obviously not, and my bet is you have no interest to learn. You simply gobble the goop shoveled to you by The Goebbels Propaganda Machine.

Having read a number of your posts... you're a lost cause. A typical Obamatron.
 
zimmer said:
Socialist care is wonderful isn't it?

Lowers costs and improves service. Not.

A distant government that knows nothing about business or your community knows best. Trust them. They've done miracles... like adding 16 trillion in debt, and 60 trillion in unfunded mandates... and have been busy slashing debt like butchers ROTFLOL... Now they're just beginning to sink their teeth into their decades long dream of Socialist health-kare. Oh... I'm just overjoyed by the prospects... aren't you?
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Many hospitals closed their OB services in the late 1980s and the 1990s.. has NOTHING to do with Obama or socialism.
 
DVSentinel said:
I didn't call it socialism, I called it regulated capitalism which has a lot in common with socialism. Both are progressive in nature until in one, socialism, the government owns it or regulated capitalism, the government doesn't out-right own it, but controls all aspects of it.

If someone, other than children, haven't done what is necessary to earn the benefit of healthcare, yep, don't care if they are denied. If you want it, earn it.
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Hahaha ok buddy. If you like such an environment may I suggest Somalia? Quite libertarian, that place.
 
zimmer said:
Socialist care is wonderful isn't it?

Lowers costs and improves service. Not.

A distant government that knows nothing about business or your community knows best. Trust them. They've done miracles... like adding 16 trillion in debt, and 60 trillion in unfunded mandates... and have been busy slashing debt like butchers ROTFLOL... Now they're just beginning to sink their teeth into their decades long dream of Socialist health-kare. Oh... I'm just overjoyed by the prospects... aren't you?
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This is just the tip of the iceberg....Standby for heavy rolls to port.
 
zimmer said:
Whatever you do, I hope the government steps in and reduces you to subsistence level. Beans, rice and water for you. You can take public transport and live in a government sanctioned cave... because otherwise you are making a profit on the backs of others.

Do you know how miserably government controlled healthcare has failed? Obviously not, and my bet is you have no interest to learn. You simply gobble the goop shoveled to you by The Goebbels Propaganda Machine.

Having read a number of your posts... you're a lost cause. A typical Obamatron.
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You seemed to have missed the point. No matter how much you bitch about socialism a hospital closing it's birthing abilities because the profits are not there is capitals. I know you are pretending that this purely capitalistic move is somehow socialism's failing, but the real failure in the case is capitalism which makes it not-profitable to deliver babies in that hospital.

I am noticing you conservatives and republicans have absolutely no clue as to what socialism is.
 
Fenton said:
A couple of years ago in Dallas's Parkland Hospital 3/4 of the babies born were born to illegal aliens.

Its hard to stay in bussiness when the State steps in and mandates services.

I betcha this Hospital is suffering from the same onslaught of leeching illegals looking for a free place to drop an anchor baby. Its just not "Pc" to mention it.
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Being from the area originally, I highly doubt the issue is IM, as opposed to a shrinking and aging population. If you read the article, their maternity ward only delivered 200 babies per year since 2005
 
tererun said:
You seemed to have missed the point. No matter how much you bitch about socialism a hospital closing it's birthing abilities because the profits are not there is capitals. I know you are pretending that this purely capitalistic move is somehow socialism's failing, but the real failure in the case is capitalism which makes it not-profitable to deliver babies in that hospital.

I am noticing you conservatives and republicans have absolutely no clue as to what socialism is.
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Not supporting Zimmer, but the costs related to Obama-care was also cited as one of the reasons.
 
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