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Very well said....Very True.
...as I've noticed for a while, Digsbe's good at that.
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Very well said....Very True.
Really? No Genocide in the New Testament? Have you read Revelations?
How about in Timothy where is says that women shouldn't teach or hold a position of authority over males?
How about all the references to slavery in the New Testament? How often did Jesus speak out against the practice of slavery?
Such bullcrap.
Did you completely ignore CritcalThought's response?
Eh, I've been round and round in these arguments. You don't have to like the New Testament or believe in it, but the fact is that it doesn't condone genocide and all the other stuff people want to attribute to it in order to justify ignoring Biblical text and writing it off as barbaric.
Not that I have anything against Christianity it does a lot of good for a lot of people, and a lot of my local churches do a lot for our community. However your just as guilty of ignoring all of the negative attributes of the New Testament as you claim Critical Thought is for ignoring the positives.
Is it genocide for people to be judged for their sins?
How about understanding that slavery in the NT was a contractual agreement?
James even opens up his book with the term "bondservant of Christ." A bondservant was a slave, who after fulfilling their contract, chose to remain with their master. "Slaves" were meant to be set free and paid for their work. Chinese factories are far worse off than NT "slavery."
You don't understand the Bible, you want to read negative things into it in a dishonest manner to try and justify ignoring what it says about homosexuality (and most likely other sins as well).
I agree with the normal society....Homosexuality is Wrong and Sinfull.
And besides, I plan on entering God's Kingdom one day.
We all sin durring our lifetimes, and the Allmighty may forgive for it. But for those that sin with homosexuality. YEP!!!....
We all eventually find out. Ther'es no escaping it.
Is it genocide for people to be judged for their sins?
How about understanding that slavery in the NT was a contractual agreement? James even opens up his book with the term "bondservant of Christ." A bondservant was a slave, who after fulfilling their contract, chose to remain with their master. "Slaves" were meant to be set free and paid for their work. Chinese factories are far worse off than NT "slavery."
You don't understand the Bible, you want to read negative things into it in a dishonest manner to try and justify ignoring what it says about homosexuality (and most likely other sins as well).
Nah, their mistake is rejecting salvation and choosing hell. God is a judge, we sin and those sins are judged by a just God. Do you get mad when a court sentences a murderer to serve jail time? According to Biblical theology death is something mankind freely chose when the first sin was committed.ROFL. It is when your silly God is running around the world destroying entire nations of people whose only mistake is not believing he exists.
And I've taken college courses analyzing the history and ancient Greek/Hebrew of Biblical text.How about stop blowing smoke up my ass with your revisionists view of what ancient Middle Eastern slavery was. I own a history book.
Bullcrap.
You, you, you, you, you.
ROFL!
I could say the same thing about yourself and how you interpret the Bible's views on homosexuality. In the end, you prove my point. It's all about the interpretation.
It annoys me when people call you a hateful bigot simply because you understand homosexuality is a sin, based on your religion. Such mud-slinging is inexcusable. It's not like a pester people about it. But if you want to have a discussion about it then you will have my opinion and I for one won't tolerate being slurred. A few years ago I actually recieved death threats (on a different forum) for simply stating my opinion.
It annoys me when people call you a hateful bigot simply because you understand homosexuality is a sin, based on your religion. Such mud-slinging is inexcusable. It's not like a pester people about it. But if you want to have a discussion about it then you will have my opinion and I for one won't tolerate being slurred. A few years ago I actually recieved death threats (on a different forum) for simply stating my opinion.
Who gives a crap what you think? Anyone who wasted time threatening to kill you because of your opinions is a loser. You are a guy who believes an old myth because it gives you comfort and gives you a sense of belonging with other people who buy into the same old myth. That doesn't bother me at all. I think its stupid, but hey, you think where I put my penis is stupid, so I guess we are even.
Who gives a crap what you think? Anyone who wasted time threatening to kill you because of your opinions is a loser. You are a guy who believes an old myth because it gives you comfort and gives you a sense of belonging with other people who buy into the same old myth. That doesn't bother me at all. I think its stupid, but hey, you think where I put my penis is stupid, so I guess we are even.
Nah, their mistake is rejecting salvation and choosing hell. God is a judge, we sin and those sins are judged by a just God. Do you get mad when a court sentences a murderer to serve jail time? According to Biblical theology death is something mankind freely chose when the first sin was committed.
And I've taken college courses analyzing the history and ancient Greek/Hebrew of Biblical text.
Do you interpret the Bible with an intent to find the truth of the text? Or is it in pursuit of trying to mix words to fit a certain lifestyle or deny that certain things are sins because that's what you want the Bible to say? I don't claim to have infallible knowledge about Biblical text, but it's clearly seen within the Bible that homosexuality is not permitted much like murder and sleeping with your mother isn't.
I'm not calling you a bigot, however would you please explain how telling the homosexual community that they're evil and will burn in hell isn't bigotry. Once again not calling you a bigot, as you claim not to be, however I am confused as to how you can say that and at the same time not be guilty of bigotry and an explanation would do a lot to clarify things for me.
Digsbe, I know this is a direct question, but do you actually read books that say Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris writes?
I'm just interested to know if religious people read books that make them think on what they believe in.
I'm not calling you a bigot, however would you please explain how telling the homosexual community that they're evil and will burn in hell isn't bigotry. Once again not calling you a bigot, as you claim not to be, however I am confused as to how you can say that and at the same time not be guilty of bigotry and an explanation would do a lot to clarify things for me.
I will pray for you.
I used to be an atheist and I am familiar with the arguments and some of the works of Richard Dawkins (like the God Delusion). I have not read his works to completion however. I am not very well acquainted with the work of Sam Harris.
Do you interpret the Bible with an intent to find the truth of the text? Or is it in pursuit of trying to mix words to fit a certain lifestyle or deny that certain things are sins because that's what you want the Bible to say? I don't claim to have infallible knowledge about Biblical text, but it's clearly seen within the Bible that homosexuality is not permitted much like murder and sleeping with your mother isn't.
Your anger is getting to you, badly. I'll leave you to cool off; we can continue this discussion in a few hours or longer.