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Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?


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I say maintain the Judeo-Christian vision of marriage as the legal standard, as much as possible, but continue permitting gay unions. Also, the revelation of one's sexual orientation should be recognized under the law as a strictly private matter, period.
 
I say maintain the Judeo-Christian vision of marriage as the legal standard, as much as possible, but continue permitting gay unions. Also, the revelation of one's sexual orientation should be recognized under the law as a strictly private matter, period.

A reasonable point of view.
 
Pleasure responses yes. I was referring to your assertion about "us creating homosexuality". Nonetheless, there isn't any evidence for "purpose", purpose requires a designer and there isn't any evidence of a designer other than personal experience and religious texts, neither of which can be verified by said designer.

Hmm, really. What does your heart do? Is it there for a reason? What do bees do?
 
I say maintain the Judeo-Christian vision of marriage as the legal standard, as much as possible, but continue permitting gay unions. Also, the revelation of one's sexual orientation should be recognized under the law as a strictly private matter, period.

How can you maintain judeo-Christian marriage and "homosexual unions", concurrently?
 
Have't figured out how to link with the iPad...try googling psychotherapy and pleasure response....and maybe Robert depaolo.

I get totally worn out using my iPad in DP... Ipads don't have a "tab" button...and the scroll part is difficult...
 
How can you maintain judeo-Christian marriage and "homosexual unions", concurrently?


In the same way dealing with legally recognized Buddhist marriages are dealt with today in the USA.
 
Right/wrong is irrelevant when speaking of other animals, but, the human brain has evolved to allow us control over these impulses, which has allowed other adaptations such as hidden estrous. Also, at risk of crossing streams, I dare you to google Margaret Sanger, aborigine, and sexual impulse control.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't see the impulse to be gay as being harmful.
 
In the same way dealing with legally recognized Buddhist marriages are dealt with today in the USA.

My bad....the judeo-christian model, which homosexual unions do not fit.
 
My bad....the judeo-christian model, which homosexual unions do not fit.

The Judeo christian model is irrelevent and not part of this discussion.. You can thank the 1st amendment for that.. You need to get over that Mac.. Your religious views are cow cookies in this discussion.. They have no bearing, they carry no weight, and are completely meaningless in this discussion.. That is just the way it is..

There is nothing wrong with being gay, there is nothing unnatural.. That is all there is to it..
 
Why would you need to do that?

Because...the words "sin" and "wrong" are abstract and subjective...unless they are considered to be unlawful. Then the authorities will decide the consequence.
 
I don't believe that homosexuality is a birth defect (in addition I believe the definition of defect to be subjective), but that's for another thread.

Let's say that, for the sake of argument, homosexuality is a birth defect. The incidence of defects among any population is, in my opinion, still a NATURAL occurrence.

It really is up to opinion, i think the word natural is opinionated, whether you want it to be all inclusive or bounded. In the end i think its just political correctness not wanting to hurt gay peoples feelings. There is something that is not right with homosexuality(meaning the brain chemistry somehow got messed up in some way at birth), but i dont think its the homosexuals fault, much like if you have ADHD, albino, minor gigantism, dwarfism.

What word would you use to describe homosexuals, albinos, midgets?.... its really hard to not come up with something that doesn't sound 'mean'. Unnatural is just a word to describe people with attributes that differ from the regular homo-sapien make-up in which has the most efficient functionality as a healthy human being.
Homosexuality is a dysfunction because it decreases the sex drive to the opposite sex, which results in decrease chance in reproduction.... which is the only meaning of life as we know it according to biology, to reproduce.
I believe most of us have some sort of dysfunction caused by many factors, but i think those are no less 'unnatural'.
 
It really is up to opinion, i think the word natural is opinionated, whether you want it to be all inclusive or bounded. In the end i think its just political correctness not wanting to hurt gay peoples feelings. There is something that is not right with homosexuality(meaning the brain chemistry somehow got messed up in some way at birth), but i dont think its the homosexuals fault, much like if you have ADHD, albino, minor gigantism, dwarfism.

What word would you use to describe homosexuals, albinos, midgets?.... its really hard to not come up with something that doesn't sound 'mean'. Unnatural is just a word to describe people with attributes that differ from the regular homo-sapien make-up in which has the most efficient functionality as a healthy human being.
Homosexuality is a dysfunction because it decreases the sex drive to the opposite sex, which results in decrease chance in reproduction.... which is the only meaning of life as we know it according to biology, to reproduce.
I believe most of us have some sort of dysfunction caused by many factors, but i think those are no less 'unnatural'.

Alright I'll just have to disagree with one point here. This one. I don't plan, nor do I want to have kids, when I get older. If I do, I will plan on adopting. Am I dysfunctional?

I believe both "defect" "dysfuntion," and "wrong" to all be subjective terms.
 
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Hmm, really. What does your heart do? Is it there for a reason? What do bees do?
My heart has a function. This function keeps my body alive. Whether or not this function is also a purpose requires us to find out if it was designed. We don't know if it was designed and if it was designed we don't know who designed it.
 
Alright I'll just have to disagree with one point here. This one. I don't plan, nor do I want to have kids, when I get older. If I do, I will plan on adopting. Am I dysfunctional?

I believe both "defect" "dysfuntion," and "wrong" to all be subjective terms.

SB.... the word "subjective" is a little bit too much for some. Don't try asking for any type of source to back up their argument...they go bats***. Just saying.... :coffeepap
 
The Judeo christian model is irrelevent and not part of this discussion.. You can thank the 1st amendment for that.. You need to get over that Mac.. Your religious views are cow cookies in this discussion.. They have no bearing, they carry no weight, and are completely meaningless in this discussion.. That is just the way it is..

There is nothing wrong with being gay, there is nothing unnatural.. That is all there is to it..

You need to follow the convo...I was asking for reasoning, not promoting judeo-christian views. Give your inner-lib a Valium, and sit back and watch.
 
Alright I'll just have to disagree with one point here. This one. I don't plan, nor do I want to have kids, when I get older. If I do, I will plan on adopting. Am I dysfunctional?

I believe both "defect" "dysfuntion," and "wrong" to all be subjective terms.

No, wanting to sleep with your sister makes you dysfunctional.
 
I believe that it is a sin according to the Bible. I also believe it's unnatural.

But by what parameters do you define 'natural' it happens in nature and in human society, it occurs, has for all of human existence, and is physically possible... doesn't that self evidently repudiate the idea that it is unnatural?
 
But by what parameters do you define 'natural' it happens in nature and in human society, it occurs, has for all of human existence, and is physically possible... doesn't that self evidently repudiate the idea that it is unnatural?

Is fasting natural?
 
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