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Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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Redress said:
"hedonistic gay lifestyle"..That is ****ing hilarious. You should actually get out and meet some gay people.
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Listen you need to get a clue. Show me 1 just 1 survey of gay men that says otherwise. CC could not find one, neither could I. SO you can take that and, well you know.

Redress said:
You are right, I missed the one post you actually said you supported gay marriage, which is a change in position for you.
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1 post??? try 3 or 4. If as a moderator you actually contributed something rather than make insults, you mite not have missed it.
 
O_Guru said:
no no no no redress its a FACT that is how "da gays" live and totally relevant.

Also lets not think about the reality that MAYBE gays are more promiscuous because they CANT get married and are forced to hide in many cases, I mean even if their lifestyle mattered to the debate we could never look at common sense like that and factor it in.
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OK that is funny.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I know a lot of gay females that live in committed relationships.
Just saying.
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I know a male gay couple who've been together for 25 years or more. Seems pretty committed to me. ;)
 
Did anybody see the movie "Milk?" Just curious. I'm wondering how many people have gay family members, who are comfortable coming out to them. I can tell you my sister's and my relationship wouldn't be where it is if I thought (and she knew it) "Okay, I love you madly, but because of who and what you are, you're going to hell."

Something's just wrong with that. People are supposed to (presuming one comes from a judeo-christian background) go to hell for what they do. Not who they are. And I can't accept they go for that, either.
 
Blackdog said:
1 post??? try 3 or 4. If as a moderator you actually contributed something rather than make insults, you mite not have missed it.
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Then you can easily link us to it?
 
MistressNomad said:
I know.

I was challenging the consideration of discrimination-by-proxy-of-god as being a valid argument.

I wasn't asking what your position was. You told me. Though I find it odd you defend such baseless argumentation when you yourself aren't using it (that I'm aware - as established, the Bible can mean whatever the reader desires it to).

I was asking why you're defending bad argumentation and a religious immunity to defend ones arguments as being valid in the debate.
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It is a valid argument. My church will not marry gays, simple. If they get married in some UU church etc, cool. Only because civil unions are unrealistic and they deserve the same rights. This does not make what they do a marriage nor does it make it right.
 
Blackdog said:
Listen you need to get a clue. Show me 1 just 1 survey of gay men that says otherwise. CC could not find one, neither could I. SO you can take that and, well you know.
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Why are you comparing two unlike situations and trying to draw a conclusion. Hint: straits can get married, which promotes stability, gays cannot. One of us though knows a lot of gay people. They are no more "hedonistic" than straits, and in some ways less.

1 post??? try 3 or 4. If as a moderator you actually contributed something rather than make insults, you mite not have missed it.
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Only one of the posts you link did you say you supported gay marriage, and that is a change in position for you. Your old position was that gays should be able to have civil unions, not marriage, so pardon me for not including posts where you refer to having the same rights as married people.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I know a lot of gay females that live in committed relationships.
Just saying.
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My sister and her dearly beloved have been together going on twenty years. And their best friends are a gay male couple who have been together just as long.
 
You're talking about emotionally stunted men if by the time they're 25 "all they think about" is still getting laid. Seriously. Grow the **** up.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I know a lot of gay females that live in committed relationships.
Just saying.
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Very first gay male couple I ever met was two guys in their 60's who had been together for over 30 years. Considering I met them in the 70's, that was remarkable in alot of ways. Nice guys.
 
Why would you think your sister is going to Hell? Because she's gay? Why would you think that?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
And what are those standards based on?
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Likely history and sociaity and standards the profession sees as important. Not being a lawyer, my absolute knowledge is limited. ;) However, the point is they are not left up to each individual lawyer, but agreed upon and enforced despite any individual differences.
 
The Baron said:
Why would you think your sister is going to Hell? Because she's gay? Why would you think that?
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I don't. If I DID, we wouldn't be as close as we are. She wouldn't have come out to me, nor would she be open with me now.
 
Redress said:
Very first gay male couple I ever met was two guys in their 60's who had been together for over 30 years. Considering I met them in the 70's, that was remarkable in alot of ways. Nice guys.
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My neighbors were like that when I was a kid.
These guys looked like your average joes but they'd been together for a long time.
 
Blackdog said:
Star you have got to be kidding?????
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No, I didn't see that. You've always been against SSM, I would like to see the post where you come out for it.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Conversely I know a ton of married straight people that cheat regularly.
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That's the point I made in frustration earlier today. I don't actually believe that gays getting married can do any more damage to "the institution of marriage" than the straights have already done.
 
Redress said:
Why are you comparing two unlike situations and trying to draw a conclusion. Hint: straits can get married, which promotes stability, gays cannot. One of us though knows a lot of gay people. They are no more "hedonistic" than straits, and in some ways less.
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Bunk. The ability to get married promotes nothing as we see in modern marriage. The proof is in the pudding.

Redress said:
Only one of the posts you link did you say you supported gay marriage, and that is a change in position for you. Your old position was that gays should be able to have civil unions, not marriage, so pardon me for not including posts where you refer to having the same rights as married people.
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It's about gays who want the same rights as married couples. I have no problem with that

Of course this has little to do with me supporting so <--- Admittedly vague, but that's what I meant.

I mentioned it more than one time.
 
Your Star said:
No, I didn't see that. You've always been against SSM, I would like to see the post where you come out for it.
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But I have always supported CU, so why is this so hard for people to see? In fact I mentioned it a month ago.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Conversely I know a ton of married straight people that cheat regularly.
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Sadly, so do I. Of the couples who married from our church back when I married, all freinds, only my wife and I are still married. All the others (5 others) had affairs and divorced. I laugh because we were seen by the pastor as most likley to fail.
 
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