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Is Homosexuality sinful and/or unnatural?

Is homosexuality wrong and/or unnatural?

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RamFel said:
Proven? Funny, how did that happen when I have proven the opposite?
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You have not proven the opposite. Based on the definitions of the word natural, gay sex is clearly covered by it, since gay sex is found in nature. Until you find a way to refute that, it is proven.
 
CriticalThought said:
Actually you are on my ignore list. I just saw your comment in CC's post and found it to be a rather weird comment. I figured I would give you another chance, but you clearly are not capable of civility.
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Well if you had actually saw what I was talking about, maybe I could be but you already assume what it is about and you will not change, period. I am pretty done with you.
 
RamFel said:
So what? Uh, Duh!
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If you use the "reply with quotes" button found at the bottom of each post, people will be able to see what you are referring to in your posts. Posts like this give no evidence of what you are referring to.
 
Moderator's Warning:
CC, BD, knock it off and get on topic and civil.
 
Sigh! Yes, I know. Gays can have children, but only when they engage in Natural Sex. Not when they do it with the same sex.

OK?

And yes, since they cannot procreate during gay sex, it IS unnatural.
 
RamFel said:
Sigh! Yes, I know. Gays can have children, but only when they engage in Natural Sex. Not when they do it with the same sex.

OK?

And yes, since they cannot procreate during gay sex, it IS unnatural.
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procreation has nothing to do with whether it's natural or unnatural. That's quite a logical leap.
 
You know what's really unnatural? Religion! You don't find that anywhere in nature, and it obviously doesnt serve a reproductive purpose. Clearly it should be made illegal.
;)
 
atrasicarius said:
You know what's really unnatural? Religion! You don't find that anywhere in nature, and it obviously doesnt serve a reproductive purpose. Clearly it should be made illegal.
;)
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Apples and oranges, but funny! :lol:

I don't know, some people think animals reason and communicate like people so who's to say they don't have their own religion?
 
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RamFel said:
Sigh! Yes, I know. Gays can have children, but only when they engage in Natural Sex. Not when they do it with the same sex.
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Natural sex would be sex that occurs in nature, by definition. Therefore by your logic, some one could get pregnant from a blowjob(yes, animals do this).

OK?
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No, you are using the language improperly actually, and that is not OK.

And yes, since they cannot procreate during gay sex, it IS unnatural.
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Not by any definition of the word natural. Further you included an large amount of sex as unnatural. Sex while pregnant, unnatural. Sex after vasectomy/tube tied, unnatural. Blowjob, unnatural. Sex after menopause, unnatural. Sex by a guy with a low sperm count, unnatural. Masturbation, unnatural. The list goes on and on.
 
Blackdog said:
Apples and oranges, but funny! :lol:

I don't know, some people think animals reason and communicate like people so who's to say they don't have their own religion?
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Hey, maybe they do. No way to know for sure. If they do, though, at least it doesnt stop them from having gay sex like ours do.
 
atrasicarius said:
Hey, maybe they do. No way to know for sure. If they do, though, at least it doesnt stop them from having gay sex like ours do.
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No one is stopping anyone from having gay sex. They are stopping them from getting married.

Since animals (as far as we know) don't get married, they don't care, lol.
 
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CriticalThought said:
So do you also condemn people who masturbate? Given that the hand is not a reproductive organ and masturbation cannot result in procreation it must also be an "unnatural" act as well. About 90% of people masturbate so would you argue they all act in an unnatural fashion?

How about oral sex? Would it also be unnatural? The mouth is not a reproductive organ, so I imagine you view heterosexuals who engage in oral sex with the same stringent mind set you have towards gays since that act can't lead to procreation.
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Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
 
RamFel said:
Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
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Why? What business is it of yours?
 
RamFel said:
Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
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Why? Gay's are a part of this society right or wrong and under a secular government why shouldn't they have all the same rights and privileges?

I mean I don't want to be involved in a gay relationship, but have them go back in the closet? That is so medieval in thought. It's 2011, time to move on.
 
RamFel said:
Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
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For the third time: If you don't want to hear about it, that's completely understandable. I sympathize. I think buttsecks is kinda gross too. That doesnt give you or me the right to stop people from getting married if they want to. The burden is on you guys. Unless you can give some compelling reason why gays shouldnt be able to marry, it should be a given.
 
RamFel said:
Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
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Thankfully, you don't have the right to make that demand or dictate that to others.. You don't have to agree.. But whether your do or not is irrelevent and does not determine the rights of others..
 
Blackdog said:
Why? Gay's are a part of this society right or wrong and under a secular government why shouldn't they have all the same rights and privileges?

I mean I don't want to be involved in a gay relationship, but have them go back in the closet? That is so medieval in thought. It's 2011, time to move on.
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We have almost completed the conversion of Blackdog to a flaming liberal.

 
atrasicarius said:
For the third time: If you don't want to hear about it, that's completely understandable. I sympathize. I think buttsecks is kinda gross too. That doesnt give you or me the right to stop people from getting married if they want to. The burden is on you guys. Unless you can give some compelling reason why gays shouldnt be able to marry, it should be a given.
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Just to make the point: most gays do not engage in anal sex.
 
RamFel said:
Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
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So what does homosexuality being "unnatural" have to do with you wanting it to only being spoken about in secrecy and not socially accepted? How exactly is embracing an act like homosexuality any different than embracing an act like masturbation? Do you think that masturbation should be publicly shunned and anyone who admits to engaging in it should be shamed?
 
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Redress said:
We have almost completed the conversion of Blackdog to a flaming liberal.

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He! I have always been more of a social liberal. I am however a strict Constitutionalist and fiscal conservative.

My Constitutional side overrode my religious side because we do have a secular government.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Why? What business is it of yours?
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Because it's a major turn off. It's my right to want what I want. You may think that this whole gay scene is really cool, but I don't. It's illogical, unnatural, and a major turn off seeing it in our society. You want to know what turned me this way? Seeing a real good example of what's ahead, if we let it, during a gay pride parade on TV. It was a look into what was to come. And it's coming fast with Gay Marriage. So, you'll pardon me if I want to push it back.
 
Redress said:
Just to make the point: most gays do not engage in anal sex.
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If you mean lesbians, yes. Most gay men most certainly do. Even allot of straight men.
 
RamFel said:
Because it's a major turn off. It's my right to want what I want. You may think that this whole gay scene is really cool, but I don't. It's illogical, unnatural, and a major turn off seeing it in our society. You want to know what turned me this way? Seeing a real good example of what's ahead, if we let it, during a gay pride parade on TV. It was a look into what was to come. And it's coming fast with Gay Marriage. So, you'll pardon me if I want to push it back.
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You don't have the Constitutional right to not be offended. Guess what, seeing obese people turns me off. Maybe we should just shut them in their closets and forbid them to leave the house as well. :roll:
 
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RamFel said:
Now you're getting it. Yes, they're unnatural. Celibacy? I don't know. I haven't thought about that one. But just because oral sex, and masturbation are unnatural doesn't mean that it gives gay sex credence. Besides, I'm not against gays having gay sex. I'm just against this movement to make it normal, and widely accepted, and out in the open (oops, too late for that). I want it spoken of only in whispers, and in secrecy.
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Wow. Really? On what planet?

As for gay sex, don't like it? Don't do it. Problem solved.
 
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