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Do America "take idols"?

Do America "take idols"?


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Maximus Zeebra

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God said tho thall not take idols, or something of that sorts..

Is America a society that is based on taking idol? I mean, the president in America is a typical example of a person who is there as an idol rather than a sane figure. In my opinion no society should have any single leader/dictator. Americans love single people with much power, and its all about the person, nothing about what the person stands for.

America seems to love taking idol, most politics is about idol in American, and not politics. Its the same with the political parties, taken as idol rather than actual politics. Its a fight between idolts, flags if you want.

And yes, last the American flag, the biggest American idol, waved around as if nationalism is good.

Point is, does America "take idols"?
 
God said tho thall not take idols, or something of that sorts..
He sure did!

Is America a society that is based on taking idol?

Of course. There is even a popular TV show, "American Idol".

I mean, the president in America is a typical example of a person who is there as an idol rather than a sane figure.

Definately not sane, right?

In my opinion no society should have any single leader/dictator.

I agree. Having a president or prime minister is basically the same as having a dictator, as indicated by your most well-placed hash.

Americans love single people with much power, and its all about the person, nothing about what the person stands for.

As long as the person has or can get power, Americans worship blindly. The person could be a mass-murdering genicodal madman (like Bush, am I right?) and Americans would still do anything they say, including 911. Money is like mind control in the US.

America seems to love taking idol, most politics is about idol in American, and not politics.

There are no politics in America. Just dictatorship and money worship. You know this.

Its the same with the political parties, taken as idol rather than actual politics. Its a fight between idolts, flags if you want.

True. There are no political parties in the US. They are all the same with different mascots.

And yes, last the American flag, the biggest American idol, waved around as if nationalism is good.

Flag = nationalism. Everyone knows this.

Point is, does America "take idols"?

Take idols? America is of by and for idols.




Great Satan.



Thanks!
 
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Reminds me of a joke.

A bloke is shopping at a bazaar in Turkey when he comes across a small statue of a beautiful woman, upon purchasing that statue it talks to him, saying "I'm nor really a statue, I was trapped in this form by an evil witch, to release me all you have to do is have sex with me" after thinking about it for a while, the bloke says, "I won't, but my cousin might, he's a idle ****ing bastard.

But if we look at the text:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God

It's not worshipped in place of God.
 
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It's not worshipped in place of God.

Oh please. Everyone knows the verse outlaws symbolic language. That's clear.

And math, that's symbolic too.
 
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I just want to note that the

"Of, By and FOr Idols"

should be read in a Rev. Wright voice.


Again, thanks.
 
There are Americans who mistakenly idolize people, but it is in a different sense than the Bible warns against. Some people also make the mistake worshipping other people like the Liberals who nearly swoon over Obama, but that comes from brainwashing and is not as widespread as reading the posts here might suggest.

Some people go way too far.
obama+savior.jpg


As a Nation we have symbols we look too as representing what we as a Nation stand for, but we don't worship them. Some examples are the Flag, the Constitution, the Bald Eagle.

BTW it's the 2nd Commandment: You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

It has been written in many was and one is that "you will make no idol."
 
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Asking as a serious question, do any Christians here count the crucifix as idolatry?
 
They allow math and other symbols. They don't worship the cross.

But I bet you could find a type or a few types that are anti-cross. Perhaps witnesses?

I checked, witnesses are anti-cross but I'm not sure if it has to do with idoltry, seems translation of scripture.
 
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God said tho thall not take idols, or something of that sorts..

Is America a society that is based on taking idol? I mean, the president in America is a typical example of a person who is there as an idol rather than a sane figure. In my opinion no society should have any single leader/dictator. Americans love single people with much power, and its all about the person, nothing about what the person stands for.

America seems to love taking idol, most politics is about idol in American, and not politics. Its the same with the political parties, taken as idol rather than actual politics. Its a fight between idolts, flags if you want.

And yes, last the American flag, the biggest American idol, waved around as if nationalism is good.

Point is, does America "take idols"?

Why don't you look up the correct quote before initiating a thread to bash America?
 
God said tho thall not take idols, or something of that sorts..

Something like that yeah.

I mean, the president in America is a typical example of a person who is there as an idol rather than a sane figure.

No one worships the POTUS. Sure some might hinge on every word they say. But they don't worship him.

In my opinion no society should have any single leader/dictator. Americans love single people with much power, and its all about the person, nothing about what the person stands for.

America is not ruled by one person. It is ruled by a three tier system. Executive, Judicial, Legislative. The POTUS is part of the executive which is there to talk to other nations and enforce our laws. That is it.

America seems to love taking idol, most politics is about idol in American, and not politics. Its the same with the political parties, taken as idol rather than actual politics. Its a fight between idolts, flags if you want.

Not sure what you're talking about here.

And yes, last the American flag, the biggest American idol, waved around as if nationalism is good.

The American Flag is not an idol. It is a symbol. A symbol that in this country means freedom.
 
Asking as a serious question, do any Christians here count the crucifix as idolatry?

Come on how can the crucifix not be idolatry?

Most Christians worship Jesus as God, which is also against the ten commandments. But then again, the Christians also modified those.. :doh
 
Why don't you look up the correct quote before initiating a thread to bash America?

I didnt want to.. Point should be clear anyways.

Its not the same in Europe by the way, we are not so taken by individuals, leaders, people and idols as Americans. Which is the reason I am asking, because my impression is that America is all about idolts, and personally I despise that. There is nothing I find more silly than a society that wants to shed non democracy and then proceed to elect a single leader.. That in my opinion is contradictory.
 
Come on how can the crucifix not be idolatry?

That's why I was asking it.
Most Christians worship Jesus as God, which is also against the ten commandments. But then again, the Christians also modified those.. :doh

In Christian theology Jesus is God, so they have a loop-hole there.
 
Its not the same in Europe by the way, we are not so taken by individuals, leaders, people and idols as Americans.

I seem to recall a few people idolizing a charming German fellow a few decades ago.

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Which is the reason I am asking, because my impression is that America is all about idolts, and personally I despise that.

Meh, it pretty much cuts across cultural boundaries. Some Americans idolize the US flag, just like some Europeans idolize themselves and their sense of superiority. Case in point: you.

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There is nothing I find more silly than a society that wants to shed non democracy and then proceed to elect a single leader.

Well if you'd bothered to consult Wikipedia about the most basic principles of US government, you'd see that we don't have a single leader. We have two legislative houses which are elected by the people, we have a president and vice-president which are elected by the people, we have an independent judiciary which is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, and we have various high-ranking cabinet positions which are appointed/fired by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
 
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I seem to recall a few people idolizing a charming German fellow a few decades ago.

Yes, just a very few decades ago. And Germany in particular and Europe ofcourse is so much the same now as it was 65-75 years ago.

Perhaps Americans should wake up and smell the glue.

Well if you'd bothered to consult Wikipedia about the most basic principles of US government, you'd see that we don't have a single leader. We have two legislative houses which are elected by the people, we have a president and vice-president which are elected by the people, we have an independent judiciary which is appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, and we have various high-ranking cabinet positions which are appointed/fired by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

You can make it as technical as you want, but we all know what I mean in practise.

You my man seem to know much about the technical aspects about the US political system, the wikipedia stuff, and little about the actual system, the implications and how it has turned out, and what it is becoming. All the things that matters.

I am sure the Germans used the same excuses back in 1940. They were also still technically a democratic society with noble purposes and a well functioning justice system.
 
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I didnt want to.. Point should be clear anyways.

Its not the same in Europe by the way, we are not so taken by individuals, leaders, people and idols as Americans. Which is the reason I am asking, because my impression is that America is all about idolts, and personally I despise that. There is nothing I find more silly than a society that wants to shed non democracy and then proceed to elect a single leader.. That in my opinion is contradictory.

Of course you're different, you only have cathedrals and statues ever five feet or so. No idolatry going on over there.
 
That's why I was asking it.


In Christian theology Jesus is God, so they have a loop-hole there.

What loophole? Look, you can take a cross as an idol in which you are worshipping the cross, or you can look at it as a representation of what you are really worshipping (God). God looks into a man's heart to see which he's worshipping.
 
What loophole? Look, you can take a cross as an idol in which you are worshipping the cross, or you can look at it as a representation of what you are really worshipping (God). God looks into a man's heart to see which he's worshipping.

Ah, thanks for the answer, that's what I was out for.
 
God said tho thall not take idols, or something of that sorts..

Is America a society that is based on taking idol? I mean, the president in America is a typical example of a person who is there as an idol rather than a sane figure. In my opinion no society should have any single leader/dictator. Americans love single people with much power, and its all about the person, nothing about what the person stands for.

America seems to love taking idol, most politics is about idol in American, and not politics. Its the same with the political parties, taken as idol rather than actual politics. Its a fight between idolts, flags if you want.

And yes, last the American flag, the biggest American idol, waved around as if nationalism is good.

Point is, does America "take idols"?

It's called demagogery - technically speaking.

And the founding fathers wrote our basic rules and regulations to encourage demagogery with the idea that if someone pandered to the people they had to jump through hoops *for the people* in order *for the people* to like said individual.

Yes - it is designed to be a popularity contest of brown nosing and ass kissing ad nauseum and ad populum.

"thou shalt not bear idol" is religious and regarding God not people. . . . no one's worshipping Obama to that extent (I don't think) so we're good on that.
 
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