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Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

Are gay people "abnormal"?

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theplaydrive said:
This has nothing to do with anything. You already know the answers. We're talking about sexuality.

According to you, heterosexuality is the only unchosen sexuality. The world revolves around you. It's nonsensical.
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Well, you're entitled to your opinion.
 
megaprogman said:
Given the way we think the brain works for compulsive behavior, the internal consequences are such that much of the choice is removed from us.
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Do you consider homosexuality "compulsive" behavior?
 
AS usual a discussion of gays devolves into a discussion of the red herring pedophilia. Pedophilia is DSM listed, "These include the presence of sexually arousing fantasies, behaviors or urges that involve some kind of sexual activity with a prepubescent child (age 13 or younger, though onset of puberty may vary) for six months or more, and that the subject has acted on these urges or suffers from distress as a result of having these feelings". Note that unless the subject acts on the urge(harming others) or is distressed by it, it is not a disorder. Also note that DSM classifies pedophilia as a "paraphilia": "sexual arousal to objects, situations, or individuals that are not part of normative stimulation and that may cause distress or serious problems for the paraphiliac or persons associated with him or her".

Pedophilia != homosexuality
 
theplaydrive said:
Absolutely not.
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Wel, for one, the world doesn't revolve around me, threfore it's not fact. What you are doing is claiming moral superiority without even knowing it.
 
mac said:
Wel, for one, the world doesn't revolve around me, threfore it's not fact. What you are doing is claiming moral superiority without even knowing it.
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No. I definitely think I'm morally superior in regards to this particular issue.
 
theplaydrive said:
No. I definitely think I'm morally superior in regards to this particular issue.
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Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I find it a little humerous that you find it ok to inject morality, so long as it's yours, though.
 
mac said:
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I find it a little humerous that you find it ok to inject morality, so long as it's yours, though.
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No - it's a fact that you act like the world revolves around. How I feel about my morality is, in fact, opinion though. (I've never disagreed with that.)

Moreover, I'm not "injecting" my personal morality. If I did, I would try to restrict how you live your private life. YOU are the one trying to restrict how other people live - that's injecting morality.
 
theplaydrive said:
No - it's a fact that you act like the world revolves around. How I feel about my morality is, in fact, opinion though. (I've never disagreed with that.)
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Because I have an opinion, or because I disagree with yours?

Moreover, I'm not "injecting" my personal morality. If I did, I would try to restrict how you live your private life. YOU are the one trying to restrict how other people live - that's injecting morality.
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Public, private....makes no difference...you are indeed telling me how you think I should live.
 
mac said:
Because I have an opinion, or because I disagree with yours?
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No because you think your sexuality is the only unchosen sexuality.

Public, private....makes no difference...you are indeed telling me how you think I should live.
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I definitely am. I'm just not making laws that force you to do so. :shrug:
 
LuckyDan said:
I think shame is instinctual. It can be overcome, but is still instinctual when first felt, not imposed from the outside.
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Children are without shame. We teach it.
 
Is it normal ?.... No . Is it natural?? ..... yes

Confusing I know :)

MHO is most people are bi to one degree or another.
 
theplaydrive said:
No because you think your sexuality is the only unchosen sexuality.
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That doesn't mean I think the world revolves around me, I do not.


I definitely am. I'm just not making laws that force you to do so. :shrug:
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Nor am I. Is this congress? Did I miss a memo?
 
mac said:
I can be entertained by both
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So you argue that you choose what does and does not entertain you? Something which absolutely bores you, you can choose to find it entertaining?

Why am starting to think that you are lying because it is inconvenient to your worldview that some things are outside your ability to choose?

Do you choose what foods you find repulsive and which ones you find delectable? If so, then why not choose to find the healthiest foods delectable and unhealthy foods like ice cream and cake to be repulsive?
 
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mac said:
Do you consider homosexuality "compulsive" behavior?
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Isn't all sexual behavior "compulsive"? How would you define "compulsive" so that it would relate to homosexuality and not to heterosexuality?
 
CriticalThought said:
So you argue that you choose what does and does not entertain you? Something which absolutely bores you, you can choose to find it entertaining?
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I'm kind of like that (everything is always new and wonderful, in Boop land) - drives my sister mad. If I could choose not to let anybody engage me, or bring me down, or adversely affect me in any way, shape or form? O wait. That's probably the definition of Nirvana, to some degree.
 
Penrod said:
Is it normal ?.... No . Is it natural?? ..... yes

Confusing I know :)

MHO is most people are bi to one degree or another.
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I totally utterly disagree with that statement....most humans are heterosexual
 
Penrod said:
Is it normal ?.... No . Is it natural?? ..... yes

Confusing I know :)

MHO is most people are bi to one degree or another.
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The first part of your post made me pause and think.

Its abnormal but natural...I agree its abnormal but its natural to those so inclined...I never thought about it in that vein...

The everyones bi thing is ridiculous imho
 
CriticalThought said:
Isn't all sexual behavior "compulsive"? How would you define "compulsive" so that it would relate to homosexuality and not to heterosexuality?
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Compulsive behavior is behavior performed without the choice of the performer. I do not believe all (healthy)sexual behavior is compulsive.
 
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