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Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

Are gay people "abnormal"?


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Wait, so you are saying that all I have to do is "choose" to like passion fruit and I will like it? I won't scrunch my face up in some disgusted sour face if I only "choose" to like it? Since we all have the same taste buds, I have "chosen" to not like passion fruit some time in my past and have simply forgotten this "choice"? Seriously?

I think that you give way too much power to the idea of choice. Are yo usaying that you chose to be heterosexual, forgive me if I missed this mac.

do you like anything now that you found distasteful as a child?

I think you give to little power to the idea of choice.
 
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You know what is odd? I have been around gay people since I was 7ish, and I have not actually seen gay couples kiss all that often, probably alot less than I have seen strait couples kiss(per couple, not overall). I know a couple gays who are kinda in your face, but they seem very rare. Most gay people I have known you would not know without them telling you or being friends with them.

I thought your mother is gay?
 
do you like anything now that you found distasteful as a child?

I think you give to little power to the idea of choice.

Good point, but I would counter that it was not that I now decided to choose to like it, but rather that my taste buds or my preferences matured. I dislike tomatoes sincerely when I was a kid and now I love them. I never once made a choice to like them. I just had one after twenty years of not eating them and found that I liked it intensely. I also liked tequila a lot, and then I drank too much of it, was violently sick and now it revolts me. I made no choice in the matter, I smell it and my stomach turns. I have tried drinking it a few times in fact, choosing to like it but it didn't work and then I just gave up. Choice doesn't define us... innate preferences do.

I have brown eyes but they are very sensitive to light. I never chose this. I didn't choose to like pizza or sushi or sports or breasts... I never looked at a guys dick in gym and thought, hmmm... that might be fun to suck. I never chose to like the shape of a woman. Girls started getting curvy in middle school, started developing breasts and my eyes were drawn to them from some mystical power.

My favorite TV show was Friends for the sole reason that Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox's nipples were hard in just about every scene. Damn I miss that show...

Choice, the other white meat... it's over rated...


I don't disagree with that.

So one could say that you agree with it? ;)
 
Good point, but I would counter that it was not that I now decided to choose to like it, but rather that my taste buds or my preferences matured.

In this case, matured is just a different word for changed.
I dislike tomatoes sincerely when I was a kid and now I love them. I never once made a choice to like them. I just had one after twenty years of not eating them and found that I liked it intensely. I also liked tequila a lot, and then I drank too much of it, was violently sick and now it revolts me. I made no choice in the matter, I smell it and my stomach turns. I have tried drinking it a few times in fact, choosing to like it but it didn't work and then I just gave up. Choice doesn't define us... innate preferences do.

hmm, have you tried fellatio recently?

I have brown eyes but they are very sensitive to light. I never chose this.

Genetic, different entirely.

I didn't choose to like pizza or sushi or sports or breasts... I never looked at a guys dick in gym and thought, hmmm... that might be fun to suck. I never chose to like the shape of a woman. Girls started getting curvy in middle school, started developing breasts and my eyes were drawn to them from some mystical power.

There's a little evolution at work here....

My favorite TV show was Friends for the sole reason that Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox's nipples were hard in just about every scene. Damn I miss that show...

I miss that too...

Choice, the other white meat... it's over rated...

So, there is never a choice?




So one could say that you agree with it? ;)[/QUOTE]
 
do you like anything now that you found distasteful as a child?

I think you give to little power to the idea of choice.

This is all just roundabout.

Can you please tell us when you chose to be attracted to the first girl you were attracted to?
 
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In this case, matured is just a different word for changed.

Matured and changed are not the result of choice though... that was my point.

hmm, have you tried fellatio recently?

Ever? Nope...

Genetic, different entirely.

Except if sexual preference is genetic... I grant you that at least some homosexuals have chosen to be of that orientation. For various psychological reasons, abuse, whatever, they subconsciously chose this route, but not all... I would say not even most. Having been around literally thousands of gays and lesbians, they are just wired different, in general... There is no way that some bull dike lady or some flaming gay guy that shows up to the Halloween party in leopard skin tights, with a tail and riding roller blades chose to be gay. They are very naturally they way that they are...

There's a little evolution at work here....

Thank God for that too...

I miss that too...

Re-runs... it will happen. We just have to stay patient.

So, there is never a choice?

C'mon, you know that I am a reasonable guy. Of course there is choice. I chose to have kids but I didn't choose to love them. I chose to have sex with women, but I didn't choose to like a woman's body over a man's body. I choose pizza over burritos most of the time, though I love both, but I never chose to like Hawaiian Pizza. See where I am going with this?
 
She is. That right there might tell you a couple things.

Ok, then you're adopted? If I'm gettin too personal tell me to stfu. I won't report it ;)
 
Ok, then you're adopted? If I'm gettin too personal tell me to stfu. I won't report it ;)

Lesbians can have children mac... ;)

Many still have the biological urge to have children, and many lesbians are in marriages and have kids and then leave the marriage for a woman... weren't we just talking about Friends. Ross got dumped, 'member?

Can I tell you to stfu if she doesn't? :)
 
Lesbians can have children mac... ;)

he said he's been around gays since he was 7.....that would indicate....

Many still have the biological urge to have children, and many lesbians are in marriages and have kids and then leave the marriage for a woman... weren't we just talking about Friends. Ross got dumped, 'member?

Can I tell you to stfu if she doesn't? :)

you could try.... :)
 
Ok, then you're adopted? If I'm gettin too personal tell me to stfu. I won't report it ;)

No, in fact my mother spent her 20th birthday in labor with me, bu I held out for the day after. We both celebrated our birthdays last week in fact, easter, hers, mine in 3 days of too much food and dinners out.
 
he said he's been around gays since he was 7.....that would indicate....



you could try.... :)

That would indicate that she did not figure out what she was until then. She is 66, back then not only was the social pressure to marry and pump out kids was huge, and no one talked about orientation.
 
Technically yes, as it is a subset of human behavior that is quite different than baseline average.

HOWEVER, red hair as PB said, left handedness, very high IQ, LOTS of things are abnormal by this definition.

ALL successful mutations began as "abnormal" by this definition as well.

So will I let anti-gay propagandists set a wedge with the term "abnormal"?

Nope.:2wave:
 
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I think you give to little power to the idea of choice.

When broken down into neuroscience, choice is simply a fancy way of saying the ability to regulate attention. Are you suggesting that people must ignore that which sexually arouses them if it doesn't comply with what you believe should sexually arouse them? As I recall Jesus said to even look at another and lust for them is akin to adultery. Christianity has always sounded an awful lot like mind control to me.
 
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The question is, what people, country, imperial, civilization etc. in the last 5771 years considered Homosexuality as normal and has not vanished?

Which ones that vanished considered it normal and which ones that vanished didn't consider it normal?:mrgreen:

But a serious answer to a silly question:

India, Japan, at least some Native American peoples.

Many non-paternalistic cultures/faiths, actually.

Does anybody know offhand about homosexuality in Bonobos?

Do you watch football on Sunday?

Do you own bones?

Why did God make so many fake dinosaur bones?

Or allow Satan to put stars in the sky that appear billions of years old?

Since we're asking questions.:2wave:
 
But what does that serve when in one thread we get a gaggle of contentious users?

Since we can't pin down the definition, and we know such argumentation would ensue, why even offer up the question?*

Its an experiment, as stated.

To see how we respond to the question as asked.
 
No not necessarily, Thinks happen that nature does intend... but they usually die out. But i think there is a connection between a development of a human and some other animals sexual drive where a mess up can occur. The sex drive aspect would pass, but when the defect happens it wouldn't.

I once heard a theory that homosexuality may be a response to population pressure or severe imbalances in male/female ratios.

A latent tendency that kicks in when appropriate to mitigate problems arising from the above circumstances.

Just a lesbian friend of mines theory, as far as I know, but it makes some sense.
 
So basically nature just "is" and we have absolutely no idea what we're supposed to do in life? It would seem like the safest position one could make about existence, yet it offers nothing for depth of understanding.

Be...here...now!
 
But that is exactly the point. The theory of evolution is not concretely proven, it's a theory. Theory =/= concretely proven. If I asked 20 scientists how life came to exist, I am sure I would not get one unanimous position. In fact, I've actually debated with multiple "evolutionists" and they kept arguing amongst themselves about their theories...

Anybody who owns a dog owns proof of the MECHANISM of evolution.

ORIGIN of life/the universe is another subject entirely.
 
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