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Are Gay People "Abnormal"?

Are gay people "abnormal"?

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CaptainCourtesy said:
Yet there is no evidence that shows that these difficullties are CAUSED by them being gay. Of course if you know of some studies that prove this causation, feel free to provide them.
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All of what he stated is caused by societies aversion to LGBT people, how people can't see that I have no idea.
 
Wake said:
...through being temporarily straight. Hence not being true to their supposed self-declared lifestyle.
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No. As I said, there is a difference between sexual behavior and sexual orientation. These two things are not the same. One's behaviors do not necessarily equate to one's orientation.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
No. As I said, there is a difference between sexual behavior and sexual orientation. These two things are not the same. One's behaviors do not necessarily equate to one's orientation.
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Thankfully, or my sister and I would not exist.
 
Wake said:
I'm skeptical of this. The only exception to a person being straight yet engaing in homosexual sex is if said person were raped in prison, etc. I don't believe they are "states of being", but life-style choices based on every single influence they have experienced. Much like behaviorism, in a way. In response to your 2nd to last sentence, does that nullify the term "bisexual"?
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You are incorrect. Folks who engage in sex with members of the same sex in prison are not homosexual. They are engaging in a behavior for two purposes: control/domination and sexual pleasure. There are plenty of studies on this. 90% of all men who engage in sexual behavior with other men in prison are heterosexual.
 
Wake said:
I would deem it perverse, as well. In general sex for money is against my morals. If both partners are of the same sex, then it's a perversion in my eys. If partners of the opposite sex do it, it's a perversion in my eyes.

I cling to traditional morality.
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OK... that's fine. But your morality is irrelevant to the logic behind this discussion. Sexual behavior does not equate to sexual orientation.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You are incorrect. Folks who engage in sex with members of the same sex in prison are not homosexual. They are engaging in a behavior for two purposes: control/domination and sexual pleasure. There are plenty of studies on this. 90% of all men who engage in sexual behavior with other men in prison are heterosexual.
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Evidence (kind of ****ed up)

 
CaptainCourtesy said:
OK... that's fine. But your morality is irrelevant to the logic behind this discussion. Sexual behavior does not equate to sexual orientation.
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It is faulty to use naught but logic. Emotion, morality, logic, wisdom, experience, character... they all play vital roles in discussion. My morality is relevant to me, and until I'm barred from speaking, I will discuss this issue as I please. Would you elaborate on your last sentence? You seem sure, but can you concretely prove that?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You are incorrect. Folks who engage in sex with members of the same sex in prison are not homosexual. They are engaging in a behavior for two purposes: control/domination and sexual pleasure. There are plenty of studies on this. 90% of all men who engage in sexual behavior with other men in prison are heterosexual.
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Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
 
Wake said:
Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
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That is a gay act, but that has no bearing one who the person is attracted to.
 
Wake said:
Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
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I think reluctant has a side in this too... most notably in the jail setting. There may be other factors aside from reluctant.

Adrift on an ice burg sounds better, and the chill should .....
 
Wake said:
Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
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"In your eyes" is just your opinion and holds no bearing on the facts of this issue. 90% of all men who engage in homsexual behaviors in prison are straight. These are the facts.

Prison sexuality is situational and behavioral, and is not related to one's sexual orientation. Prison life has hierachies of power, with individuals using sex, violence, and threats of both to hold power and dominance over others. At times, the submissive partner, may agree to this situation in exchange for protiection. Regardless, this is about control and dominance and having power over others, not about sexual orientation.
 
Wake said:
Unwilling or no, that is still gay in my eyes. I do not understand how control/dominance plays a role in that. I would say the unwilling man is straight, but the man who forces himself on others is indeed so.
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When speaking of "gay" as referring to orientation, you are incorrect.
 
Your Star said:
That is a gay act, but that has no bearing one who the person is attracted to.
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Correct. That's because this is situational sexual behavior, a behavior that it separate from one's sexual orientation.
 
Your Star said:
That is a gay act, but that has no bearing one who the person is attracted to.
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I thought it was common knowledge, created by every source of info from TV to radio, that doing a homsexual act makes one homosexual. Does this mean, along the path of logic only, that if one engages in an incestual act that that does not make said person an incestor(?)?
 
Wake said:
I thought it was common knowledge, created by every source of info from TV to radio, that doing a homsexual act makes one homosexual.
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No, it is not common knowledge. It is an incorrect assertion.

Does this mean, along the path of logic only, that if one engages in an incestual act that that does not make said person an incestor(?)?
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Being an "incestor" is not a sexual orientation, so your attempt at an analogy is not logical.
 
SheWolf said:
I am straight and I don't want to have any kids... I might adopt. Honestly, why have kids and push reproduction when so many children need homes and families? I'll never understand that. I am not hurting society by not reproducing... :roll:
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Actually, I would posit that you not reproducing would be a big benefit to society. ;)

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There is no eggs in the ass. :D
 
What is normal about being homosexual. Its normal for humans to have children. Two men or two women cannot copulate and have a child. My conclusion is that homosexuslity is not normal. In fact it is an aberration to be a homosexual. I recomend converting to heterosexuality. Do your part to propagate our species.
 
SgtRock said:
What is normal about being homosexual. Its normal for humans to have children. Two men or two women cannot copulate and have a child. My conclusion is that homosexuslity is not normal. In fact it is an aberration to be a homosexual. I recomend converting to heterosexuality. Do your part to propagate our species.
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We have more then enough people on this planet.

Thats quite alright, in fact, its a crisis.
 
cpwill said:
not as you have it worded, no. giving away 80% of your income to charity is also abnormal.
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To have so much that it would not matter ... and the people would sit in wonder ahhhhhh
 
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