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Herman Cain for president?

Would you vote for Herman Cain for president?


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Looked at the link....He looks like a candidate that I could support. Seems to be a true conservative without the right-wing social agenda...as long as he sticks to it.
I agree with him on the civil liberties stuff, eliminating the Patriot act. I agree with his abortion stance. He was a little vague on the gay civil rights issue. He says government should not impose its values on marriage...not sure what that means. If it means that government should get out of the marriage issue and simply support civil unions and let churches decide who they "marry", I'm fine with that.
I agree with most of the foreign policy stuff. His stance on the economy and the taxes was a little vague, not really sure what his stance is on most of it based on his website.

He agrees with me on most issues, which probably means he has a snowball's chance of getting the nomination. He'll have to be pretty persuasive to get the authoritarian right to accept his stance on the war on drugs.
 
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Zogby Poll Stunner: Herman Cain Continues 2012 Surge

This is the point I've been trying to make for the past week:

Pollster John Zogby told Newsmax.TV in an exclusive interview that the sudden rise of Cain shows the degree of restlessness among GOP faithful, given their current options.

“He’s not well known. He’s very plain speaking,” Zogby said. “But when someone enters the forum, as he did during that debate, and rises to the top, it’s kind of like Donald Trump, it’s kind of like Chris Christie: “We don’t like the field, this is a guy that we can believe in.’”
 
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Still, do you notice that no matter how good Cain does, it seems everyone keeps pushing Romney?
We can't let the media pick our nominee again!

Is that who picked McCain/Palin?

They did a poor job. They couldn't even beat a freshman senator.
 
Is that who picked McCain/Palin?

They did a poor job. They couldn't even beat a freshman senator.

Too true.

You should be backing Daniels, hes the only one who has a chance.
 
They chose McCain. The only thing he did right was choose Palin. :)

Palin was a really bad choice. She is not stupid, but she is not that wise and mean spirited. Could not even do one full term as Governor. Good conservative, bad politician.
 
Thats the reason he lost, you do know that right?

actually the only time he was ever beating Obama was right after he nominated her. then the economy collapsed, he didn't seem to be clued in at all, and voters were exausted after 4 years of Bush and Obama talked that Pretty Moderate Talk to us.

Obama didn't beat McCain, Bush and McCain did.
 
actually the only time he was ever beating Obama was right after he nominated her. then the economy collapsed, he didn't seem to be clued in at all, and voters were exausted after 4 years of Bush and Obama talked that Pretty Moderate Talk to us.

Obama didn't beat McCain, Bush and McCain did.

Yep. Bush was the reason for Obama's victory, more than any other single factor. Obama was a more credible Notbush than McCain ever was, despite the talk of being a "maverick" that he later denied.
 
actually the only time he was ever beating Obama was right after he nominated her.

And then America got to know the idiot from Alaska and despised her. Because of her and everything she represented (social-right wing nut) people like me didn't vote for McCain.
 
she represents social right wing nuts?

or her media image was that of a brainless nut?



you know one of her first acts as governor of alaska was to give homosexual partners of state employees the same rights and priveledges as spouses? and she raised taxes?
 
Mr. Cain is clearly ready to make the right moves to fix the economy and he is much smarter then Obama.
 
well that is true. but i would posit that knowing more about how to create jobs than our current administration is not the highest particular bar that we should expect our candidates to clear.
 
she represents social right wing nuts?

or her media image was that of a brainless nut?



you know one of her first acts as governor of alaska was to give homosexual partners of state employees the same rights and priveledges as spouses? and she raised taxes?


-She is embraced by the right-wing nuts

- her being a brainless nut is not a media image, it is who she is, the media didn't create it, she displayed it when she couldn't open her mouth without demonstrating it. Why do you think the McCain camp was desperate to keep her quiet?

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actually the only time he was ever beating Obama was right after he nominated her. then the economy collapsed, he didn't seem to be clued in at all, and voters were exausted after 4 years of Bush and Obama talked that Pretty Moderate Talk to us.

Obama didn't beat McCain, Bush and McCain did.

JournOlist attacking Palin right out of the gate didn't help either. But honestly, McCain was just not enough to get anyone excited. And then the media all sloppering and worshiping the chosen one, the rock star, blah blah blah and never asking him any tough questions. Republicans didn't stand a chance. Palin was the only thing that gave me even a glimmer of hope that we could beat him.
 
-She is embraced by the right-wing nuts

you mean the social conservatives? well yes, she's one of them. but you seem to have "social conservatives" mixed up with "nuts".

the nuts embrace anyone that comes along that they can seize on. unless you want to give Obama credit for the new black panthers?

her being a brainless nut is not a media image, it is who she is, the media didn't create it, she displayed it when she couldn't open her mouth without demonstrating it. Why do you think the McCain camp was desperate to keep her quiet?

dude, as a general matter I agree that Palin can't stop talking, but the McCain camp was run by fools.
 
JournOlist attacking Palin right out of the gate didn't help either. But honestly, McCain was just not enough to get anyone excited. And then the media all sloppering and worshiping the chosen one, the rock star, blah blah blah and never asking him any tough questions. Republicans didn't stand a chance. Palin was the only thing that gave me even a glimmer of hope that we could beat him.

she had to be destroyed.
 
she had to be destroyed.

Here's some more on how they went about it.
Read more: When McCain picked Palin, liberal journalists coordinated the best line of attack | The Daily Caller
Ed Kilgore, managing editor of the Democratic Strategist blog, argued that journalists and others trying to help the Obama campaign should focus on Palin’s beliefs. “The criticism of her really, really needs to be ideological, not just about experience. If we concede she’s a ‘maverick,’ we will have done John McCain an enormous service. And let’s don’t concede the claim that [Hillary Clinton] supporters are likely to be very attracted to her,” Kilgore said.Amidst this debate over how most effectively to destroy Palin’s reputation, reporter Avi Zenilman, who was then writing about the campaign for Politico, chimed in to note that Palin had “openly backed” parts of Obama’s energy plan. In an interview Wednesday, Zenilman said he sent the information as a means of promoting a story he had written for Politico.
Chris Hayes of the Nation wrote in with words of encouragement, and to ask for more talking points. “Keep the ideas coming! Have to go on TV to talk about this in a few min and need all the help I can get,” Hayes wrote.Suzanne Nossel, chief of operations for Human Rights Watch, added a novel take: “I think it is and can be spun as a profoundly sexist pick. Women should feel umbrage at the idea that their votes can be attracted just by putting a woman, any woman, on the ticket no matter her qualifications or views.”Mother Jones’s Stein loved the idea. “That’s excellent! If enough people – people on this list? – write that the pick is sexist, you’ll have the networks debating it for days. And that negates the SINGLE thing Palin brings to the ticket,” he wrote.Another writer from Mother Jones, Nick Baumann, had this idea: “Say it with me: ‘Classic GOP Tokenism’.”Kilgore wasn’t sold: “I STRONGLY think the immediate task is to challenge the ‘maverick’ bull**** about Palin, which everybody on the tube is echoing. I’ll say it one more time: Palin is a hard-core conservative ideologue in every measurable way
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yup.... and now they all believe it.... :) and they think they are so wise and cynical and knowing.
 
yup.... and now they all believe it.... :) and they think they are so wise and cynical and knowing.

I really get upset when she sticks up for herself or her family and people say she's just playing the victim card. Or she somehow brought it on herself. Kind of like blaming the victim of a rape instead of the rapist.
If anyone has been unfairly villified by the media, it's Sarah Palin and her family. And it was all done to protect the one they had already decided was going to be president.
 
I really get upset when she sticks up for herself or her family and people say she's just playing the victim card. Or she somehow brought it on herself. Kind of like blaming the victim of a rape instead of the rapist.
If anyone has been unfairly villified by the media, it's Sarah Palin and her family. And it was all done to protect the one they had already decided was going to be president.

She made herself look like an idiot on multiple occasions where there wasn't a set up "gotchya." I deplore anyone who faulted her on her decision to have another child and all that, but anyone she had soo many gaffs that it wasn't even funny.
 
She made herself look like an idiot on multiple occasions where there wasn't a set up "gotchya." I deplore anyone who faulted her on her decision to have another child and all that, but anyone she had soo many gaffs that it wasn't even funny.

You just proved my point. She made no more gaffs than the chosen one. In fact one gaff he made, the 57 states, when people were asked on election day who said it, no one knew. The ones who guessed, said it sounded like something Palin would say. When asked who said they could see Russia from their house, everyone said Palin, even though she never said that.
 
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