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Herman Cain for president?

Would you vote for Herman Cain for president?

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Barbbtx said:
By the way, seeing as how you are a liberal, I'd be surprised if you didn't take a pass on a staunch conservative.
I think I'll take a pass on Obama, because he wouldn't know how to make a good or bad pizza. ;)
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Dunno about that....he is from Chicago....and Chicago has the best pizza by far.
 
Barbbtx said:
By the way, seeing as how you are a liberal, I'd be surprised if you didn't take a pass on a staunch conservative.
I think I'll take a pass on Obama, because he wouldn't know how to make a good or bad pizza. ;)
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BTW....I'm not completely anti-conservative. Why I AM against is the radical right-wing social agenda. I COULD support a conservative candidate like Barry Goldwater...but they would have to distance themselves from the radical evangelicals and denounce their big government social agenda.
 
Barbbtx said:
By the way, seeing as how you are a liberal, I'd be surprised if you didn't take a pass on a staunch conservative.
I think I'll take a pass on Obama, because he wouldn't know how to make a good or bad pizza. ;)
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Libs can make pizza just as well as anyone else.
 
It's Italian.
 
Barbbtx said:
That was a very old tape of Beck. He didn't even know Cain wasn't the founder of Godfathers then. He had just heard him speak for the first time, and was blown away. I haven't heard him back him since he has thrown his hat in the ring. Then I haven't heard him back anyone.
I'd me more pleased if they'd get behind him.
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I hate to break it to you but if Beck/Rush bring a candidate to the forefront with promoting him that will guarantee he never becomes president you know that right?

Dont get me wrong those pundits/shock jocks HAVE made their mark on the REPUBLICAN party amd influenced them at times but they will never determine who is president by STARTING the movement for them.

If Cain builds his own base and gets popular FIRST and THEN they support him that would be different but if they START him he is even more doomed to fail then it already seems.

Me personally having looked at him more and more do you honestly believe he has a shot?
 
Barbbtx said:
By the way, seeing as how you are a liberal, I'd be surprised if you didn't take a pass on a staunch conservative.
I think I'll take a pass on Obama, because he wouldn't know how to make a good or bad pizza. ;)
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That made me laugh out loud. :D
 
Centrist77 said:
I hate to break it to you but if Beck/Rush bring a candidate to the forefront with promoting him that will guarantee he never becomes president you know that right?

Dont get me wrong those pundits/shock jocks HAVE made their mark on the REPUBLICAN party amd influenced them at times but they will never determine who is president by STARTING the movement for them.

If Cain builds his own base and gets popular FIRST and THEN they support him that would be different but if they START him he is even more doomed to fail then it already seems.

Me personally having looked at him more and more do you honestly believe he has a shot?
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I realize that now I'm just repeating myself, but I figure it's like "Rocky." Dont assume anybody doesn't have a shot based on ______________.
 
disneydude said:
No....Rocky definitely lost.

Perhaps you are thinking of Rocky II?
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Perhaps. I didn't view 1 as a loss, though.

I just get tired of the constant reiterations that it can't be done. How does anybody KNOW that? It's all just their best guess.
 
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BDBoop said:
Perhaps. I didn't view 1 as a loss, though.

I just get tired of the constant reiterations that it can't be done. How does anybody KNOW that? It's all just their best guess.
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Doesn't really matter how you view it...really....Apollo Creed won by decision. ;-)

As for Cain....I think anyone with any grasp of reality knows that Cain doesn't stand a chance at getting the nomination. It like the die-hard Ron Paul fans or Nader fans....they are passionate, but their guy has zero chance of getting the nomination or elected. I'd be surprized if Cain does better than 5th in any of the primaries before he drops out....if he makes it that far.
 
More on Cain. I know i'm biased, but I think this shows uniting qualities and the ability to work with anyone. I don't think he could be a divider and accomplish everything he has in life. I also think his business skills could tranfer into leading the country and making us prosperous.


Introducing Herman Cain - Robert Costa - National Review Online
At the time, in the early 1980s, Burger King was growing so fast,” Cain says. “I wanted to be part of that growth. So I moved out of the information-technology side to the restaurant business. I had to work my way up the corporate ladder again.” He is not kidding. Instead of landing in a cushy corporate office, Cain was put through Burger King’s management-trainee program, washing dishes and cleaning toilets with part-time teenage workers.
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Cain viewed the greasy training as graduate school for restaurant management, so he asked many questions about why certain functions were performed, and about how various employees performed their tasks. Low-level workers, as he knew from his childhood odd jobs, often had better insights into workplace efficiency than corporate brass
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Soon after completing his new training, Cain became Burger King’s regional vice president for the Philadelphia region, directing hundreds of franchises. Within a couple years, thanks to his newly instituted employee-morale and customer-service programs, Cain’s Burger Kings saw whopping new profits. The region became a shining light for the company.
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]“Because I was successful, in two separate areas of Pillsbury, the executives asked me to become president of Godfather’s Pizza in 1986,” Cain says. The promotion was, in part, a reward for his record at Burger King. But it was also necessary: Godfather’s was nearing collapse and needed somebody to shake things up — fast.
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Cain quickly moved his family — his wife, Gloria, and their two children — to Nebraska. His time in Burger King’s management program served him well as he took the reins. “We were looking bankruptcy right between the eyes,” he says. “That toughens you up. The path to success was not obvious when I showed up there. We utilized one of my guiding principles, which is to go to the people closest to the problem and ask them for their advice, then put together a strategy. I did not walk in with the answers; I walked in with the questions
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]“When you run a restaurant, you touch every aspect of the labor market, from the hourly-wage worker to the supervisor to the executive,” Cain observes. “Inside of the four walls of a restaurant is an entire corporation. You have to be able to deal with all types of a business: sales, operations, inventory, hiring and firing people, and customer service. It is a laboratory to learn how to deal with all aspects of a business.”
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disneydude said:
Doesn't really matter how you view it...really....Apollo Creed won by decision. ;-)

As for Cain....I think anyone with any grasp of reality knows that Cain doesn't stand a chance at getting the nomination. It like the die-hard Ron Paul fans or Nader fans....they are passionate, but their guy has zero chance of getting the nomination or elected. I'd be surprized if Cain does better than 5th in any of the primaries before he drops out....if he makes it that far.
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Cain will, I think, do better than that in Iowa. But I see him having trouble in New Hampshire.
 
disneydude said:
BTW....I'm not completely anti-conservative. Why I AM against is the radical right-wing social agenda. I COULD support a conservative candidate like Barry Goldwater...but they would have to distance themselves from the radical evangelicals and denounce their big government social agenda.
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How do you feel about Gary Johnson?
 
cpwill said:
Cain will, I think, do better than that in Iowa. But I see him having trouble in New Hampshire.
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I hope you are right...but I suspect that you are not. Then again....there may be less than 5 candidates left by the time we get to Iowa.
 
Dittohead not! said:
How do you feel about Gary Johnson?
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Looked at the link....He looks like a candidate that I could support. Seems to be a true conservative without the right-wing social agenda...as long as he sticks to it.
I agree with him on the civil liberties stuff, eliminating the Patriot act. I agree with his abortion stance. He was a little vague on the gay civil rights issue. He says government should not impose its values on marriage...not sure what that means. If it means that government should get out of the marriage issue and simply support civil unions and let churches decide who they "marry", I'm fine with that.
I agree with most of the foreign policy stuff. His stance on the economy and the taxes was a little vague, not really sure what his stance is on most of it based on his website.
 
cpwill said:
Cain will, I think, do better than that in Iowa. But I see him having trouble in New Hampshire.
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Pawlenty Wins New Hampshire Tea Party Straw Poll | Red Dog Report | Red Dog Report
Tim Pawlenty narrowly won a straw poll of New Hampshire tea partiers Friday, even as the sentiments of conservative activists gathered for a tax day rally here made clear that the grassroots constituency is very much up for grabs in the nation’s first primary state.
Pawlenty won just over 17 percent of votes cast by more than 300 people during the tea party rally at the New Hampshire statehouse, where Pawlenty, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain and Buddy Roemer all gave speeches. Cain finished a close second in the straw poll with over 16 percent of the vote, while Ron Paul, who did not attend, won third place with almost 13 percent of the vote. Donald Trump and Michele Bachmann finished fourth and fifth, respectively, ahead of Santorum. Roemer won last than one percent.
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Missed most of Cain on Hannity :( Darn storm warnings!
However caught the end. He said who he would consider as running mates. Bachmann, DeMint, Coburn. When asked about Rubio he said, absolutely, and also he would consider Allen West. He's just not sure those two would be interested because of their current obligations.
 
Barbbtx said:
Pawlenty Wins New Hampshire Tea Party Straw Poll | Red Dog Report | Red Dog Report


Missed most of Cain on Hannity :( Darn storm warnings!
However caught the end. He said who he would consider as running mates. Bachmann, DeMint, Coburn. When asked about Rubio he said, absolutely, and also he would consider Allen West. He's just not sure those two would be interested because of their current obligations.
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But what are the numbers among New Hampshire....non-tea partiers?
 
Barbbtx said:
I am head over heels in love.

:kissy: me and Mr. Cain

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Hey wait a second. If you got conservative jungle fever for a presidential candidate you should be with Blackdog/Chuthulu 2012!

Come with me and be different! Besides I am younger and have a long standing member. :thumbs:
 
disneydude said:
I hope you are right...but I suspect that you are not.
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well now i'm confused. do you think he will do better or worse than 5th in Iowa?

Then again....there may be less than 5 candidates left by the time we get to Iowa.
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nah. Daniels and Bachmann, I think, are both getting in. Cain will still be big - he'll be getting ready to try to peak enough in Iowa to handle a reduction in Iowa but still do well in South Carolina. Pawlenty isn't about to get out, neither is Romney or Paul. Santorum is hoping to do well in Iowa, and I don't see Johnston going anywhere, though I don't really know why he's running, either. Maybe he figures he can become the next generations' Ron Paul.
 
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