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Herman Cain for president?

Would you vote for Herman Cain for president?

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The big problem with Cain is that he's just not able.
 
Yes of course, hopefully people notice him.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Less experience than Obama had when he took office? If he was CEO of a pizza chain, he must have had to learn to make executive decisions, manage a budget, and meet a payroll. Yes, it sounds like his resume is a little thin, but not as thin as the current POTUS' was.
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As I always say... I don't care if somebody can tell a Balance Sheet from a Cash Flow Sheet, or even a Financial Statement, or had a Federal EIN number issued in their damn name. Having some experience manging stock prices or writing up payroll, doesn't give anybody federal executive experience. I want a candidate that understands the Constitution, can actually get a good bill through senate and the house, and understands foreign policy. This argument is a pet peeve of mine. We had an MBA serve as president and he wrecked the economy and followed the worst foreign policy in my lifetime.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Hm.. maybe not. We do need someone who can shake things up in Washington.

Where does this guy stand on the issues? Health care, SS, the war on terror, the war on drugs, and the real biggie, the economy and deficit spending?
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That's what I'd like to know. He has no record, so all we have is his word... and I don't like that.
 
Barbbtx said:
Cain's going to use it for laugh every chance he gets.
He has a list of all the names he's called for leaving the democratic plantation as he calls it.
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Oh, so he's the traditional definition of a neocon...

Why did he leave the democratic party?
 
Barbbtx said:
He was honest. When asked if he would appoint a Muslim to his cabinet he said "No" without hesitation. I'm fine with that. A president should appoint people who has his same values, like Obama did. :) Van Jones, Valarie Jarrett, Cass Sustein, Benwick, Rahm and Zeke Emanuel,Jeff Imelt,......
How many other candidates would be as blunt and honest as that? I'm sure there are others who wouldn't appoint Muslims either, but they'd never flat out say so.
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When did racism get to be so acceptable?
 
ecofarm said:
I'm not fine with it. It is a major character flaw and a display of inability to reason. He has a breakdown somewhere, fundamental, in his logic, ethics and worldview. At worst, perhaps, it illustrates a propensity for delusion.

It is not ok to judge groups (within some reason - the group 'terrorists' can be judged as a group, for example). If you do judge everyone of a major religion as untrustworthy, you are a paranoid delusional hater, and a moron, in an important part of life.


All I needed to see was that. I would not vote for him.
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That's all I needed to see too, and he is a TP favorite. Maybe the left isn't entirely wrong for saying the TP is racist, but they aren't racist towards black people. They have a problem Arabs, Turks, Persians, and other ethic groups that typically belong to the Muslim faith.

I'd say the guy has no chance. :)
 
Barbbtx said:
He was honest. When asked if he would appoint a Muslim to his cabinet he said "No" without hesitation. I'm fine with that. A president should appoint people who has his same values, like Obama did. :) Van Jones, Valarie Jarrett, Cass Sustein, Benwick, Rahm and Zeke Emanuel,Jeff Imelt,......
How many other candidates would be as blunt and honest as that? I'm sure there are others who wouldn't appoint Muslims either, but they'd never flat out say so.
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Why are you ok with that?

Those values, as demonstrated by your list, are political values, having nothing to do with religion. It's completely appropriate to discriminate on that basis, however, Americans are supposedly free to worship as they like and not be discriminated on the basis of their religion. Cain would also seem to be in violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights act:

Title VII

Title VII of the Act, codified as Subchapter VI of Chapter 21 of 42 U.S.C. § 2000e [2] et seq., prohibits discrimination by covered employers on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin (see 42 U.S.C. § 2000e-2[31]). Title VII also prohibits discrimination against an individual because of his or her association with another individual of a particular race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. An employer cannot discriminate against a person because of his interracial association with another, such as by an interracial marriage.[32]

I can't help wondering if Muslim were replaced wth Christian in that sentence, what the result would be?
 
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I wonder, if he had said "I don't want to appoint any Christians to my cabinet, for fear they share beliefs with the WBC," how his supporters would have reacted. Put yourself in the other person's shoes, people. Wonder whatever happened to "content of his character"?
 
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StillBallin75 said:
I wonder, if he had said "I don't want to appoint any Christians to my cabinet, for fear they share beliefs with the WBC," how his supporters would have reacted. Put yourself in the other person's shoes, people. Wonder whatever happened to "content of his character"?
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They'd say it's just another part on the war on Christianity...
 
SheWolf said:
They'd say it's just another part on the war on Christianity...
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No doubt, but they would not see/acknowledge their own hypocrisy.
 
SheWolf said:
Oh, so he's the traditional definition of a neocon...

Why did he leave the democratic party?
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Actually, I'd have to look into that. He may have never been a democrat. I may not have gotten his words exact. He may have been talking blacks in general and being kept on the democratic plantation. Or liberals being upset that he wasn't on it, and not that he left it.
 
Barbbtx said:
Actually, I'd have to look into that. He may have never been a democrat. I may not have gotten his words exact. He may have been talking blacks in general and being kept on the democratic plantation. Or liberals being upset that he wasn't on it, and not that he left it.
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So this guy likes to bring up race a lot, points out his race, and makes racial comments... and that's kind of ironic since I have seen you say numerous times like the left focuses on race, not the right.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I wonder, if he had said "I don't want to appoint any Christians to my cabinet, for fear they share beliefs with the WBC," how his supporters would have reacted. Put yourself in the other person's shoes, people. Wonder whatever happened to "content of his character"?
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I wonder if Obama would appoint a pro-life Christian to his cabinet?
Cain simply said he wouldn't appoint anyone who wouldn't put upholding the Constitution above all else. He thinks that someone swearing in on the Quran might not. He is worried about creeping Sharia law. Maybe that sounds nutty to a lot of people and he'll lose votes over it, but the man said it, and I hope he doesn't back peddle so much explaing it that he looks like a flip flopper.
 
SheWolf said:
Oh, so he's the traditional definition of a neocon...

Why did he leave the democratic party?
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Or maybe what he is asking for others to join him. I am taking it that the "plantation" reference is toward the Democratic Party's base of African Americans? Most if not all Neoconservatives have not viewed themselves as Tea Party/Libertarian conservatives. They can see them as useful to the development of a conservative message, but electorally out of touch.
 
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No, but I don't see much chance of that happening anyway considering he only got 1% of the Iowa Caucus.
 
SheWolf said:
So this guy likes to bring up race a lot, points out his race, and makes racial comments... and that's kind of ironic since I have seen you say numerous times like the left focuses on race, not the right.
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Once he's elected, that will be done with. He brings it up a lot due to lies from the left about the Tea Party. Since he has been with the Tea Party since the beginning, I don't blame him for being sick of it. We all are.

 
Catawba said:
No, but I don't see much chance of that happening anyway considering he only got 1% of the Iowa Caucus.
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I don't know what that means. You got a link?
 
Barbbtx said:
Once he's elected, that will be done with. He brings it up a lot due to lies from the left about the Tea Party. Since he has been with the Tea Party since the beginning, I don't blame him for being sick of it. We all are.

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do you agree with his stance of no abortion, no way, no how?
 
liblady said:
none of this matters, dear, your candidate simply cannot win.
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Well darn. I'm still going to watch him kick ass in the SC debates tonight. Fox news, 8:00. :)
 
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