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Is the Tea Party racist?

Is the Tea Party Movement Racist


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I don't think that as a group the Tea Party is racist.

However, I do think that they have a lot of racists as members. I also think that one reason why some Teabaggers oppose Obama is purely out of racist reasons.

But, as a whole, no, I don't think the Tea Party as an organization is racist.

I don't think that as a group Common Cause is racist.

However, I do think that they have a lot of racists as members. I also think that one reason why some Liberals oppose Clarence Thomas is purely out of racist reasons.

But, as a whole, no, I don't think the Progressive movement as a whole is racist
 
The Tea Party Movement largely contains citizens who reject any judgments based on external and stupid criteria of pigmentation. As a female comedienne of color once said, "Hating anyone because of race is so stupid....once you get to know folks, you find that there are many LEGITIMATE reasons to hate them!"
 
I just typed it into google, and thats the first thing that came up. to show prejudice for or against (someone or something) unfairly.

None of my definitions have unfair in it, but it's not important.

Either way, bias doesn't require active discrimination, bigotry or racism. Everybody has biases and not everybody actively discriminates, is bigoted or is racist.
 
But the TP doesn't favor whites over blacks. Black conservatives are just as welcome as white conservatives. On the other hand, many liberals call black conservatives all kinds of names.

It has nothing to do with who they welcome. It's about who primarily constitutes the group - white, decently well off people.

Nobody is saying that they aren't welcoming black people. The comment is about the reality of their constitution and the types of people it does and does not include.
 
Yes, you said they are racially biased. They are not. Do they like that so few blacks are conservative? Do they prefer the black votes go to dems?
Do they not welcome black conservative candidates? It's not the fault of the tea party that most blacks are democrats. Conservatives don't pander to people because of race. In my opinion that makes them less racist, not more than than the democratic party.

Certainly. Perhaps I mispoke. I meant to say that they are primarily a white movement but I don't think they are racist.
 
So birthers are necessarily racist now?

There's nothing can be said or done against our black president Obama that is not racist.

That's why we should not allow black people to be president. They are free to break our laws without fear of reprimand or repercussions.

People are just not ready for it yet.They still keep thinking blacks are inferior and need their help. We need to wait till they think a black is no different before this country is ready for a black president. If he breaks laws it will be accepted as relevant.
 
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There's nothing can be said or done against our black president Obama that is not racist.

That's why we should not allow black people to be president. They are free to break our laws without fear of reprimand or repercussions.

People are just not ready for it yet.They still keep thinking blacks are inferior and need their help. We need to wait till they think a black is no different before this country is ready for a black president. If he breaks laws it will be accepted as relevant.

You are being sarcastic right?
 
None of my definitions have unfair in it, but it's not important.

Either way, bias doesn't require active discrimination, bigotry or racism. Everybody has biases and not everybody actively discriminates, is bigoted or is racist.

so when someone says the TP has racial bias, they might mean it in a good way.:roll:
 
so when someone says the TP has racial bias, they might mean it in a good way.:roll:

please show me where i said or implied that. hint: i didn't...at all.
 
It has nothing to do with who they welcome. It's about who primarily constitutes the group - white, decently well off people.

Nobody is saying that they aren't welcoming black people. The comment is about the reality of their constitution and the types of people it does and does not include.

When I was in girl scouts, my troop was all white. I guess we were racially biased even though black girls would have been welcomed?

I don't see how any group can be racially biased if they are welcoming to another race.
 
please show me where i said or implied that. hint: i didn't...at all.


Originally Posted by theplaydrive
None of my definitions have unfair in it, but it's not important.

Either way, bias doesn't require active discrimination, bigotry or racism. Everybody has biases and not everybody actively discriminates, is bigoted or is racist.



What did you mean by the bolded? Weren't you suggesting that not all biases are bad? That I agree with. However if you are suggesting that everyone has a bias (in a bad way) toward blacks but just don't actively discriminate, you are dead wrong and I feel sorry for you.
I'm sorry, but to say the TP is racially biased, and then try to cover it up by suggesting that isn't an insult..... is insulting to all TP members, black and white.
 
Certainly. Perhaps I mispoke. I meant to say that they are primarily a white movement but I don't think they are racist.

Thank you. I'll stop my rant on it on as soon as theplaydrive stops defending the statement. :)
 
What did you mean by the bolded? Weren't you suggesting that not all biases are bad? That I agree with.
I didn't suggest it. I explicitly said it. I'm glad we agree.

However if you are suggesting that everyone has a bias (in a bad way) toward blacks but just don't actively discriminate, you are dead wrong and I feel sorry for you.

No I didn't suggest that at all. The fact that you would get that out of any of my statements illustrates your own problems. I started off this thread explicitly saying that the Tea Party was not inherently racist, but for some reason you have some need to attach to a liberal of choice in every thread and turn their ACTUAL words into what you WANT them to have said. It's time to stop.

I'm sorry, but to say the TP is racially biased, and then try to cover it up by suggesting that isn't an insult..... is insulting to all TP members, black and white.
Great, I don't think you understand the word biased or insult.
 
Thank you. I'll stop my rant on it on as soon as theplaydrive stops defending the statement. :)

Except, I never "defended" the statement - I haven't taken a position on its accuracy. I have only countered your ridiculous interpretations of it.
 
So birthers are necessarily racist now?

Either that, or very stupid, as I said. A case could certainly be made for birthers being very stupid as well. Those are the only two choices for someone that denies Obama was born in Hawaii.

Is it your contention birthers are very stupid as opposed to being racist?
 
I think absolutism is a core tenet of conservatism and this poll being a binary question follows that nicely.
 
Not racist.........and some of the finest freedom loving Americans one can meet........
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I would say maybe. If not on a whole? They sure got a lot of racist up in there:3oops:
 
In regards to the Tea Party and racism, one has to recognize a dichotomy at work here: One one hand we have a group, a sincere group albeit the sincerity is united by fear, primarily due to the GOP machine and FOX news, and on the other hand, we have minorities in America that have been terrorized by racism, so the proper conclusion is: Although there may be some merit to this movement there also needs to be some responsibility to the larger picture of America's ugly racist past. In other words, you just can't organize demonstrations comprised of white America and not expect some criticism???

Also, there needs to be a dialogue sooner or later, an intellectual exchange in other words that embraces a broader narrative and for the sake of a better word...maybe multi-culturalism??? Since we don't see ant attempts at this, we can only conclude that fear, racism and ignorance are very prevalent in this movement. This...this notion of "don't tread on me". Well how about, let's tread together as a collective to work on the issues.
 
Either that, or very stupid, as I said. A case could certainly be made for birthers being very stupid as well. Those are the only two choices for someone that denies Obama was born in Hawaii.

Is it your contention birthers are very stupid as opposed to being racist?

Not any stupider than the truthers.
 
You are being sarcastic right?

No I am not being sarcastic! Every word is the truth, We can't have any presidents above the law and a black president is coddled and not held to any of our important standards and laws. You are a racist if you put him in hand cuffs. You are a racist if you ask to see proof of his citizenship, You are a racist if you have any concerns about him. That simply cannot be the presidency of our country. Given that there is no reason to believe that the left can competently choose a president you don't get to anymore.

The man was elected because everybody was terrified of you screaming liberals who had obviously lost your minds. Until Donald Trump, who evidently doesn't care what the hell color he is, bravely stepped up to the plate. It was the bravest thing a man has done for this country since Watergate.

Y'all need to get it into your heads that a man is a man. They are exactly equal under he law. You can't treat one different than the other. Different standards. And you don't get to have a president of your very own who is above the law. It's unfortunate that blacks can't be our president but it's just not possible right now until people grow the hell up! Sorry that you blew it. But you blew it.
 
In regards to the Tea Party and racism, one has to recognize a dichotomy at work here: One one hand we have a group, a sincere group albeit the sincerity is united by fear, primarily due to the GOP machine and FOX news, and on the other hand, we have minorities in America that have been terrorized by racism, so the proper conclusion is: Although there may be some merit to this movement there also needs to be some responsibility to the larger picture of America's ugly racist past. In other words, you just can't organize demonstrations comprised of white America and not expect some criticism???

Also, there needs to be a dialogue sooner or later, an intellectual exchange in other words that embraces a broader narrative and for the sake of a better word...maybe multi-culturalism??? Since we don't see ant attempts at this, we can only conclude that fear, racism and ignorance are very prevalent in this movement. This...this notion of "don't tread on me". Well how about, let's tread together as a collective to work on the issues.

I'm not a big multiculturism fan. It divides people instead of unites them in my opinion. Besides most blacks in America are now and always have been Americans. Conservatives tend to treat people as equals. It's the progressives who constantly want people to be treated differently because of their skin color. The tea party has fewer blacks because of conservatism. Not a lot embrace it (yet). With outstanding black conservatives like Cain and West (now that would be an awesome 2012 ticket) hopefully more will realize the democratic party hasn't been doing them any favors.
Of course they will have to deal with being called traitors, Uncle Toms, House N......s, from the left and from other blacks.


Tea Party Could Put Record Number of Black Conservatives in Office

Allegations of Tea Party racism made by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, as well as George Soros’ organizations such as Media Matters, have been contested by black members of the Tea Party movement. Onnindan Online writes, “Black members of the movement say it is not inherently racist.”

Claims that Tea Partiers used racial slurs against congressmen prior to the healthcare vote have also been contested by black conservatives. Onnindan Online adds, “Some question the reported slurs. ‘You would think — something that offensive — you would think someone got video of it.’”

Unfortunately, black members of the Tea Party movement have to contend with cries of treason from their communities. In April, Fox News reported, “They’ve been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values.”

David Webb, organizer of New York City’s Tea Party 365, Inc., states, “I’ve gotten the statement, ‘How can you not support the brother?’”

Despite the criticism, Scott is proud of his involvement in the conservative moment, declaring, “I am more of a conservative than I am a Republican.”

Recognizing the importance of the presence of black conservatives in Congress, the Patriot Political Action Committee unveiled Operation Black Storm, a national coalition to unite the nation behind the black conservative congressional candidates in key districts around the country.

K. Carl Smith, president of the Conservative Messenger, explained of the coalition, “We want to reignite America’s passion for liberty and create an atmosphere for political dialogue where conservative candidates can engage in conversation about the issues without being accused or racism or called Uncle Toms.”

He adds, “It’s finally time for our nation to get past racial barriers in politics, and with Operation Black Storm we intend to send a message to Washington that — above all — Americans of all backgrounds, colors, and decent faiths want their God-given right for SELF-RULE.”
 
Barb dear: saying "well, others are stupid too" is a pretty poor defense.

Sorry, I'm not going to flat out call birthers stupid. (suppose it turns out they're right?):lamo

I used to get so angry at my ex for spending too much on the lottery. However, I kept my feelings to myself. ( suppose he won?) :mrgreen:
 
Sorry, I'm not going to flat out call birthers stupid. (suppose it turns out they're right?):lamo

They are not right. There is this thing called evidence, and all of it says the exact same thing, which is that they are wrong. If you believe something in the face of an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary, you are an idiot.

I used to get so angry at my ex for spending too much on the lottery. However, I kept my feelings to myself. ( suppose he won?) :mrgreen:

If he won, then you say "yay!".
 
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