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Are people who wants to defund Planned Parenthood anti-women?

Are people who want to defund PP anti-women?


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Dear, people who believe abortion is murder are not going to be looking for good things Planned Parenthood does. Maybe if they split services and had a separate agency for birth control services it would help. Every drug store offers birth control.

No tax dollars are used for abortions and they are legal. Do you think a poor person is more likely or not to use birth control if it is free?

And are you prepared to pay more for social services needed for more unwanted poor kids, that the increase pregnacies would result in, if we discontinue funding to planned parenthood? Or the increased cases of cancer treatement that have been prevented with cancer screenings?
 
I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?

No. To leave well enough alone the millions of women who want to defund PP; whether or not the federal government has a role in funding an abortion operation is a debate that has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not one is "pro" or "anti" woman. :roll:


OR, if we want to put in the logic: 51% of all babies are female. ergo, most abortions are of women babies, ergo, people who support PP want to kill women. :( why did the Democrats go to Washington to murder women?
 
No, of course not. 1/2 of all babies murdered by PP are female.

There's no reason, what with the number of holier-than-American liberals and socialists running around crying about the funding of Planned Parenthood that PP couldn't be run on charity, if only those damned socialists were more willing to put their own money where their big mouths are and less willing to steal it from others.
 
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I keep hearing how the act of defunding PP is anti-women. Do you believe this is true?

No. Its silly to even suggest it.

I say no. People who want PP defunded believe so not because they are anti-women, but pro-children.

No, they are anti-abortion. Which is the reason that they want to defund PP. Despite the facts. There are even a couple on this forum that will totally ignore any facts and will lie in order to achieve thier agenda.
 
They are corrupt-fraudulant and questionable claims to Medicare, Medicaid

A few clinics/accountants does not make the whole organization corrupt-fraudulant. Unless you have proof the the head honcho's of PP told all of thier clinics, or even just a few, to commit fraud then all that you are doing is spreading lies. Do you consider all muslims terrorists? Or just the ones that actually are? If you claim that just the ones are then you should apply the same logic to PP. Otherwise you are just being hypocritical.

Racist- Will take donations and promise to specify the money for black baby abortions.

Wasn't that woman fired?

Break the law by telling teens to lie about age

Wasn't this woman fired also?

Break the laws by telling minors to lie about the father of the baby's age.

If I remember right wasn't this in the same video as the above? Again...wasn't that woman fired?

Telling sex trafficers of minors all the info they need for getting std, bc, abortions etc for their"girls"

Not only was the woman that did this fired but PP had been aware that something like this had already been going on and had informed the FBI about it a WEEK before that video was taken. Funny that eh?

Mislead on their website and media by saying that only 3% of their services is for abortions. "such a teeny weeny number"
Though 3% is true, so is the fact that 12% of all of their clients get an abortion and way over ninety% of their pregnant clients get abortions rather opt to keep or opt to adopt.

There was no misleading. The numbers they presented were the ones that they provide the government with. At the governments request and to thier specifications. If its good enough for the government then it should be good enough for the public. Of course for people in general that are anti-abortion and will believe anything, its not.

Now as for the 90% number you have no idea of the accuracy of that number. Nothing that I have ever seen you post (link wise) has EVER proven that number accurate. Every single one of them does not take into account numerous factors. For example did the gal that came to them for the initial pregnancy test stay with PP? Or did they go to someone that PP referred them to? Or did they just go and find someone on thier own? Perhaps a family member advised them about a specific doctor? Did that gal move? Did that gal have a miscarriage? And no doubt many more reasons that I can't think of atm. So if you wish to talk about misleading I would suggest you look at your own anti-abortion sites first. Which is where you got that number from to begin with as I recall.
 
The government funds PP who uses those funds in other areas. It keeps them operating, and it keeps them able to preform abortions.

As abortions are paid for by the patients themselves defunding or funding PP has no affect on whether PP has or keeps providing abortions. In fact by defunding PP which do you think is more likely to happen?

PP stops providing abortions?

or

PP ends up having to drop the previously free services, or start charging for previously free services that the funding actually went towards while leaving abortion as is...since the person wanting the abortion already fully pays for it out of thier own pocket?
 
No tax dollars are used for abortions and they are legal. Do you think a poor person is more likely or not to use birth control if it is free?

And are you prepared to pay more for social services needed for more unwanted poor kids, that the increase pregnacies would result in, if we discontinue funding to planned parenthood? Or the increased cases of cancer treatement that have been prevented with cancer screenings?

No baby is unwanted. All babies are precious miracles and are loved by God. I am certainly willing to help the parents of the baby care for it. It takes a village.

I think all young people should be as educated as possible about contraception. Because getting pregnant is irreversible. Surely young people all know not to step in front of a truck.
 
It wouldn't matter if they only provided one elective abortion. That lone evil wipes away any good they may have don, and they should be shut down. More then just removed funding, they should be closed.

Tell us Jerry....are you a paragon of virtue as you expect everyone else to be? Answer to that of course is no. After all...you've helped women get abortions haven't you? Isn't that what you have claimed before? If abortion is so abhorrant that you ignore all of the good that PP does just because of the little amount of abortions that they do when compared to any other service then perhaps we should also label you as a murderer of babies also? No matter what else you have done in your life that was "good"? Should we hope that you "get shut down" also? Personally I am inclined to not think of you as that bad of a guy. However if you are going to spout such nonsense then don't expect not to get called on it.
 
No, of course not. 1/2 of all babies murdered by PP are female.

There's no reason, what with the number of holier-than-American liberals and socialists running around crying about the funding of Planned Parenthood that PP couldn't be run on charity, if only those damned socialists were more willing to put their own money where their big mouths are and less willing to steal it from others.

Ironically, by funding PP with Tax Payer Dollars they are saving the tax payers money. It's been posted before in other threads so am just going to state it here again....For every dollar the Feds spend on PP they save 4 dollars on down the road. So by paying 300 million they are actually saving you 1.2 billion dollars.
 
Ironically, by funding PP with Tax Payer Dollars they are saving the tax payers money. It's been posted before in other threads so am just going to state it here again....For every dollar the Feds spend on PP they save 4 dollars on down the road. So by paying 300 million they are actually saving you 1.2 billion dollars.

this is a good point. we should start killing off our underclass - if you're on welfare, well, sucks to be you. now get off or eat lead.
 
I don't recall the word "abortion" being anywhere in the Bible...do you?

I can only offer my opinion. What people legally do is not my business.

I'm not very aware of the bible. It's not really part of what I belive.
 
I don't think that they're 'anti-women', but I do think that defunding planned parenthood will hurt women, and I think most of the people who want it done simply find that an acceptable side effect of pushing their agenda forward.
 
Dear, people who believe abortion is murder are not going to be looking for good things Planned Parenthood does. Maybe if they split services and had a separate agency for birth control services it would help. Every drug store offers birth control.

PP also offer health care that you can't get at Walgreens. Also you can't get the pill and some other forms of birth control without a prescription.
 
I find people amusing who only care about the health of people before they are born. They tend to be the same people who want to cut the health programs for those that have already been born.

:roll: wishing to criminalize what one see's as state-sanctioned murder =/= a need to provide government healthcare for everyone.


but it's too easy to flip the logic: "I think it's so funny that those on the left are agaisnt killing child-rapists and serial murderers, but for killing innocent children" :roll:
 
PP also offer health care that you can't get at Walgreens. Also you can't get the pill and some other forms of birth control without a prescription.

That's why they need PP. I'm just saying nobody protests drug stores, I dont think.

People should be able to show up for contraception help without encountering protestors. They could call it "Help for Couples, Inc" or something. Just something differeny than PP.
 
That's why they need PP. I'm just saying nobody protests drug stores, I dont think.

People should be able to show up for contraception help without encountering protestors. They could call it "Help for Couples, Inc" or something. Just something differeny than PP.

People have every right to protest what they believe is immoral though. The medical form of contraception that you can get on demand is the plan B pill. That is a prescription that a pharmacist can write and fill for someone. OTC contraception can be purchased at almost any drug store (things like condoms, etc). The problem is abortion, which is not contraception nor is it an acceptable procedure.
 
People have every right to protest what they believe is immoral though. The medical form of contraception that you can get on demand is the plan B pill. That is a prescription that a pharmacist can write and fill for someone. OTC contraception can be purchased at almost any drug store (things like condoms, etc). The problem is abortion, which is not contraception nor is it an acceptable procedure.

I am completely against abortion. I am not against birth control I encourage birth control. I'm just saying a couple looking for some contraception and some advice shouldn't have to cross a picket line. And that there are no picket lines at "Help for Couples, Inc,"

Or do they protest contraception alone? Like I said, every drug store sells contraception. Plan B Que? Me no for to understand.
 
No baby is unwanted. All babies are precious miracles and are loved by God. I am certainly willing to help the parents of the baby care for it. It takes a village.

I think all young people should be as educated as possible about contraception. Because getting pregnant is irreversible. Surely young people all know not to step in front of a truck.

So you are opposed to the cuts in health care proposed by the GOP? Do you realize how many pregnancies PP helps prevent?
 
I say no. People who want PP defunded believe so not because they are anti-women, but pro-children.

No. People who want to defund PP are not anti-women. They are also not pro-children. They are anti-abortion.
 
I have not heard of the GOP proposals to provide something better for women's health services than PP, all I've heard about is their intention to cut funding for woman's health services.

Do you have a link to this proposal?

Don't ask this question. It always frustrates those on the pro-life side because they have no plan. If they had one, I'd imagine there would be quite a few who would listen. I know I would.
 
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