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Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social programs?

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“‘There but for the grace of God go I,’ we say to ourselves, and so we contribute to programs like Medicare and Social Security, which guarantee us health care and a measure of basic income after a lifetime of hard work; unemployment insurance, which protects us against unexpected job loss; and Medicaid, which provides care for millions of seniors in nursing homes, poor children, and those with disabilities,” Obama said. “We are a better country because of these commitments. I’ll go further – we would not be a great country without those commitments.”[/I]

Do you agree that we wouldn't be a great country without SS, Medicare and Medicaid?
 
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You couldn't win in the first thread you made about this subject so you made a second?

Your interpretation of his words as I said before ARE JUST THAT.

The evil liberal socialist Kenyan Tyrant hates America and only thinks its a great nation when it gives things away.

Total. Utter. And. complete. Bull****.

Every single time a president speaks, the opposition grasps for straws. This straw is pretty flimsy.
 
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“‘There but for the grace of God go I,’ we say to ourselves, and so we contribute to programs like Medicare and Social Security, which guarantee us health care and a measure of basic income after a lifetime of hard work; unemployment insurance, which protects us against unexpected job loss; and Medicaid, which provides care for millions of seniors in nursing homes, poor children, and those with disabilities,” Obama said. “We are a better country because of these commitments. I’ll go further – we would not be a great country without those commitments.”[/I]

Do you agree that we wouldn't be a great country without SS, Medicare and Medicaid?


Define great. ;)

I think a country can be judged, just like a person, by how "he treats the least of us." I would hate to live in a country that didn't care enough for its poor or its seniors to provide them with the basic necessities of life.
 
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Such programs are vital the social stability of an industrialized nation. Bismark didn't create social security because he was a liberal, he did to prevent the conditions that favor a communist revolution. Our present programs are a particularly bad implementation, but the basic concept is needed.
 
Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

You couldn't win in the first thread you made about this subject so you made a second?

Your interpretation of his words as I said before ARE JUST THAT.

The evil liberal socialist Kenyan Tyrant hates America and only thinks its a great nation when it gives things away.

Total. Utter. And. complete. Bull****.

Every single time a president speaks, the opposition grasps for straws. This straw is pretty flimsy.

Jet...............................................

I'm asking if you agree with Obama's words. No interpretation here. The rest of your post is ridiculous.
 
Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

“‘There but for the grace of God go I,’ we say to ourselves, and so we contribute to programs like Medicare and Social Security, which guarantee us health care and a measure of basic income after a lifetime of hard work; unemployment insurance, which protects us against unexpected job loss; and Medicaid, which provides care for millions of seniors in nursing homes, poor children, and those with disabilities,” Obama said. “We are a better country because of these commitments. I’ll go further – we would not be a great country without those commitments.”[/I]

Do you agree that we wouldn't be a great country without SS, Medicare and Medicaid?


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Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

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If you don't want to contribute to the thread, don't. Stop this immaturity, lib.
 
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Jet...............................................

I'm asking if you agree with Obama's words. No interpretation here. The rest of your post is ridiculous.

Jumped the gun a bit there Mellie.

I apologise.

It's gonna be a loooooooooooooooong day :mrgreen:
 
Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

Define great. ;)

I think a country can be judged, just like a person, by how "he treats the least of us." I would hate to live in a country that didn't care enough for its poor or its seniors to provide them with the basic necessities of life.

I would also. The word "great" needs to be defined by you. I disagree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social programs. I think even with social programs, we're the most charitable and kind people on Earth. If we didn't have social programs, I believe we would rise up to help our follow Americans even more than we do now. And maybe some of those who are able would gain the motivation to help themselves.
 
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Yes, I agree with Obama on the specific social programs he mentions. I think those are basic necessities in a civilized country.
 
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If you don't want to contribute to the thread, don't. Stop this immaturity, lib.

just letting you know reposting this is BORING..........
 
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No it creates generational voting blocks (kinda like class distinctions).

It totally perverts the idea of democratic elections, because politicians use them to boogieman old people into voting for them.

Edit: It's also created a whole society that couldn't fathom living without some sort of government payment and service.
It's made us into imbecile pets.
 
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Well he's exactly right. I don't know how any American wouldn't agree with it 100%. Even cavemen cared for their sick. Being useless to the tribe didn't mean sure death.
 
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Well he's exactly right. I don't know how any American wouldn't agree with it 100%. Even cavemen cared for their sick. Being useless to the tribe didn't mean sure death.

You're right. No one believes we shouldn't help the needy. However, there is a difference between individual, voluntary charity and forced charity from the government.
 
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Well he's exactly right. I don't know how any American wouldn't agree with it 100%. Even cavemen cared for their sick. Being useless to the tribe didn't mean sure death.

If Social Security and Medicare were solely focused on caring for those who can't care for themselves, you might have a point. But today they are universal old age pension and healthcare programs that are unsustainable.

Few people object to a basic safety net that cares for those who are truly unable to provide for themselves. But there is a big difference between that and what we presently have.
 
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Yes, I agree with Obama on the specific social programs he mentions. I think those are basic necessities in a civilized country.

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I agree with him. Yes. These speak to who we are and define us in a very positive way. If we did not make these types of committments, we would be less than we are.
 
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I do not think I would have phrased it just the same way, but yes, I do agree with the sentiment. We are the greatest country on earth, and a big part of why is that we do care enough as a society to take care of the elderly.
 
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Jet...............................................

I'm asking if you agree with Obama's words. No interpretation here. The rest of your post is ridiculous.

that is all they can do in this thread or the other... interpret. They have one track minds.
 
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I agree with President Obama and I think the majority of Americans agree with him as well.
This whole dust up is typical of the far right wing. They tried this bull**** with Michelle Obama when Barack announced his candidacy for president, and he kicked their ass good.. It didn' work then and it won't work now.
 
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I agree with President Obama and I think the majority of Americans agree with him as well.
This whole dust up is typical of the far right wing. They tried this bull**** with Michelle Obama when Barack announced his candidacy for president, and he kicked their ass good.. It didn' work then and it won't work now.

You mean, when she said this?
"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

She deserved heat for that. That was the first time as an adult she was proud of her country? Wow.

Go ahead PB... spin it so it doesn't 'really' mean that.
 
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If Social Security and Medicare were solely focused on caring for those who can't care for themselves, you might have a point. But today they are universal old age pension and healthcare programs that are unsustainable.

Few people object to a basic safety net that cares for those who are truly unable to provide for themselves. But there is a big difference between that and what we presently have.

I didnt participate in this poll because I dont like either answer to be honest...the truth is something different.
Social Security is not a pension plan lets get that straight...the average social security check is 1177.00 who the HELL can retire on that..you cant get a furnished room with no toilet and laundry privledges for that in the entire northeast...So lets not go teaparty here and exaggerate.

Take away medicare and give a 5000 dollar credit like ryan wants to do wont work...you cant buy insurance on 1,177 a month plus 5 grand a year when your 69 yrs old and retired, christ in a few years you wont be able to buy a weeks worth of groceries.....You will pay paying for the old baskets anyway and paying more and through the nose. WHO is going to pay when a 70 yr old gets cancer makes 1,177 a month social security LESS the fees the teaparty wants to impose and who cant afford private health insurance with the voucher ryan wants to give him...WHO and who pays for the medicine...YOU thats WHO.
Any of you people that BELIEVE that you can get rid of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid keep allowing millions of illegal immigrants in here taking all the jobs and keep ALLOWING corporations to ship the jobs to china for a few extra bucks are just bending over and accepting large vocal objects from the teaparty....you will have mass's of people unable to take care of themselves then one of two things happen...you Pay and you Pay WAY MORE or they revolt and kill all the rich people then everyone has squat.. Crime will soar...
This is all fabricated teapary spoiled brat rich kid crap from people that never had a bad day...who think they can just say SCREW EVERYONE I got mine and im keeping it all and then live happily ever after rich and stuffed like a pig....wishful thinking.
 
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You mean, when she said this?


She deserved heat for that. That was the first time as an adult she was proud of her country? Wow.

Go ahead PB... spin it so it doesn't 'really' mean that.

She was born in 1964 - meaning adulthood around 1984. What amazing things happened in the United States between 1984 and 2008?
 
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She was born in 1964 - meaning adulthood around 1984. What amazing things happened in the United States between 1984 and 2008?

Something 'amazing' has to happen for you to be proud of your country? That's sad.
 
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