• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

The Tea Party Is.....

What is the Tea Party to America?


  • Total voters
    69
Macro consists of Micro, good luck in disproving that.

When you try and equate the federal government and economic policy with a single person, you cannot complain when it is pointed out you are showing a simplistic view.
 
The average TEA Bagger is white, middle-aged, overweight, with racist tendancies. He opposes abortion, supports state sanctioned murder as punishment, is a war monger and knows he is too old and purned out to ever have to fight. He owns several guns and listens to country music. He tells people he has many coloured friends but in fact would shoot the first coloured guy who came onto his property after dark. Yes, the TEA Baggers are just what America needs.

You give liberals a bad name.
 
If you read the Wsj/NBC poll results it goes far beyond simple fiscal issues. It attracts REPUBLICANS first and foremost and they make up the vast majority of the group.

Seventy-five percent of strong Tea Party supporters compared with 32% of the overall public identified with or leaned toward the Republican Party.


what percentage consider themselves STRONG supporters compared to just tea party supporters?
 
what percentage consider themselves STRONG supporters compared to just tea party supporters?
I think a lot of people who are members of the tea party are Independents, Greeen, Democrat and Republicans that are fed up with these parties, they feel let down other third parties that has come and gone. The tea party has grabbed hold and took root, this will attract those who believe they have been disinfranchised.....the Middle Class is who they are, aging from 30 to retirement.
 
I make love to the Papaya!

The Tea Party is quickly being absorbed into the Republican party. Ever notice how there are no "Tea Party" challengers in Democratic primaries?

You mean the Tea Party is taking over the Establishment Republican Party, which was the plan from the beginning. I'd be all for a democratic tea party challenger that would take votes away from Obama. hmmmmm....I might be for a third party in that scenario.
 
I think a lot of people who are members of the tea party are Independents, Greeen, Democrat and Republicans that are fed up with these parties, they feel let down other third parties that has come and gone. The tea party has grabbed hold and took root, this will attract those who believe they have been disinfranchised.....the Middle Class is who they are, aging from 30 to retirement.

Green party? Not so sure about that. Aren't they mostly far far left environmentalist loons? Seriously, I mean know disrespect, but that's been my experience with the green party.
 
Responding to the OP, I would say the Tea Party is good. It is good because it is a sign of citizens voicing their greivances against their government. Can you think of some countries that would not tolerate this at all? Just look at the Arab Spring movements to get an idea on how some governments deal with citizen activism.

Having said that, I will say that the Tea Party seems to have evolved since 2009 when it first came onto the national stage. I remember hearing of the initial protest and agreeing partially with the message. We panty-waist liberals typically don't like war, so we had been yelling about the cost of Iraq and Afganistan for years. And some pundits like Rachel Maddow and Thom Hartmann harped on the rising deficit since before Bush was elected. Now, it does seem that the Tea Party, at least for members in congress, are struggling with the established GOP members for their say in the legislative process. I think it is fair to say that there is a power struggle inside congress and it is unclear who is winning.

The other change I see is that the Tea Party began as a largely grass root mission, but I think it has been co-opted by those with other agenda's in mind, like the Koch Bro. and Dick Armey.

The koch brothers are good for the movement in my opinion. We need the money and they are libertarians. If I'm not mistaken they have even backed dems. The only bad thing is the media spin, yet they totally ignore the left's sugar daddy (George Soros)
 
Green party? Not so sure about that. Aren't they mostly far far left environmentalist loons? Seriously, I mean know disrespect, but that's been my experience with the green party.
Perhap your right, I was thinking Perot party...oops.
 
This is exactly what I am talking about actually. Overly simplistic views of the economy. Hint: the country is not a private individual.

I prefer overly simplistic to this
How Long is the US Tax Code?
By the way, if you go to the US Government Printing Office ( U.S. Government Printing Office Home Page ), you can order a complete set of Title 26 of the US Code of Federal Regulations (that's the part written by the IRS), all twenty volumes of it, at the bargain price of $974, shipping included.
According to the US Government Printing Office, it's 13,458 pages in total. The full text of Title 26 of the United States Code (the part written by Congress--available for an additional $179) is a mere 3,387 printed pages, bringing the adjusted gross page count to 16,845. The number of words has been left as an exercise for the student.
Way bigger than the bible or War and Peace.
It's time to burn it. I'm surprised anyone who can afford to pay a tax attorney has to pay any taxes at all with all the loopholes allowed to special interest groups. That's why I'm all for Ryans proposal to lower corporate taxes at the same time he does away with the loopholes. Revenue would shoot through the roof.
 
So what you're saying is that if I get a tapeworm from eating sushi that I have to live with it because I knew that was a possibility.

You do understand that technically a fetus is a parasite, defined as an organism?

Just thought the other side of the debate should come in.

:roll: It's disgusting and wrong to say that. A baby is not sucking the life out of his mother. Her body is made to provide for him in and outside of womb. The baby needs her alive and healthy to give birth and provide for him once he comes into this world.
The only way an unborn baby can be a parasite is in the cases of parasitic twins.
 
I don't think that people know who the tea party is.. I went to a rally last year and I was with several friends from the Libertarian Party, Most of the people I met at the rally were Fiscal Conservatives and Social Moderates. I shot a couple of pictures at the rally, it was a fun day.

there were so many people that it took an hour to walk the length of the reflection pool to the lincoln memorial

IMG_0472.jpg


IMG_0470.jpg


IMG_0478.jpg


There was some Social Conservative Tea Party Members there though.

Was3393878_LR1.jpg
 
Last edited:
What' s up? Are people saying that blacks are racist because they don't want to join a white organization? I can't read everything.

No, just saying it's completely normal that since most blacks vote democrat, and most democrats do not support the tea party, that the tea party would only have a small percentage of black supporters. However, times are changing and I think we can look forward to more and more blacks leaving the Democratic party and joining the conservatives.
 
I don't think that people know who the tea party is.. I went to a rally last year and I was with several friends from the Libertarian Party, Most of the people I met at the rally were Fiscal Conservatives and Social Moderates. I shot a couple of pictures at the rally, it was a fun day.

there were so many people that it took an hour to walk the length of the reflection pool to the lincoln memorial

IMG_0472.jpg


IMG_0470.jpg


IMG_0478.jpg

Wow. Lucky you. Wish I could've been there.
 
Wow. Lucky you. Wish I could've been there.

I probably would have been at the Constitution center or the Washington Convention center. Yeah, that probably discounts me from the Tea Party lot immediately-not going to their rallies.
 
A great deal of fun:
madhatterteaparty.gif

I'd rather go to a Mad Hatter Tea Party than go on a Zombie walk looking for brains to eat and carrying a sign that says eat Walker.
 
I'd rather go to a Mad Hatter Tea Party than go on a Zombie walk looking for brains to eat and carrying a sign that says eat Walker.


Actually, a zombie walk would be more interesting to me.
 
I don't know what grasp of history you have, but the Tea Party didn't form until after Obama was elected and primarily as a response to his health care reform. I don't know why you guys keep trying to rewrite history and pretend that it began before Obama was elected.

tea parties started on tax day 2009, well before Obamacare - the group was in opposition to the bailouts and "stimulus" programs that were exploding the deficit under Bush and Obama; you could probably have read some early the-natives-are-restless rumblings in the earlier opposition to immigration reform; but Obamacare was just fuel on the fire.
 
tea parties started on tax day 2009, well before Obamacare - the group was in opposition to the bailouts and "stimulus" programs that were exploding the deficit under Bush and Obama; you could probably have read some early the-natives-are-restless rumblings in the earlier opposition to immigration reform; but Obamacare was just fuel on the fire.

Evidence please.
 
Back
Top Bottom