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Who won the budget deal?

Who won the budget deal?

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Personally, I think that both parties look pretty stupid, making this much fuss over whether or not to cut less than 1% from the budget or not.
 
Redress said:
So his submitting a budget that cut spending was just my imagination?
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You mean the budget Timothy Geitner admitted was unsustainable?

And he is not going to sign the law? He did not use his influence to push the two sides to come to an agreement?

The winner is not congress, but the country. Politicians actually worked together and came up with a plan both sides not just can agree on, but mostly like. I think most liberals and most conservatives are pleased with the actual bill. That's a win for us.
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I know, you just can't bring yourself to credit Republicans, but did I imagine all those complaints from Dems, this week about having to make cuts?
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
Personally, I think that both parties look pretty stupid, making this much fuss over whether or not to cut less than 1% from the budget or not.
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Exactly. It is not even gonna make a dent and it looked like little kids on a playground that have not learned how to play well w/each other.
 
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Redress said:
So his submitting a budget that cut spending was just my imagination? And he is not going to sign the law? He did not use his influence to push the two sides to come to an agreement?

The winner is not congress, but the country. Politicians actually worked together and came up with a plan both sides not just can agree on, but mostly like. I think most liberals and most conservatives are pleased with the actual bill. That's a win for us.
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Obama gave us.......

_PORKULUS--Largest Spending Bill in World History
_2010 Budget--Largest Budget in World History
_Largest Budget Deficit in World History
_Largest National Debt in World History

He went through the Federal Budget line by line and cut 1/2 of 1%.......and then added 20%......he was 100% opposed to these spending cuts......as was most of the Democrat Party.

And yes Republicans have played their role in debt and deficits......

...but if credit is due to anyone for THE LARGEST SPENDING CUT IN US HISTORY.......lay it where it is deserved....

.............GOD BLESS THE TEA PARTY............
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X Factor said:
If Obama had an ounce of integrity, he'd give credit where it's due. It makes me laugh when he talks about fiscal responsibility. It's so obvious he doesn't believe it.
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Ultimately it doesn't really matter much who takes credit. If Obama and Boehner both feel that they got the better end of the deal, that's great. It means that they were able to work together and actually get something done, and both come out of it not feeling like they backed down.

But in terms of the actual policy, I think the budget is a lot closer to what the Democrats wanted than it is to what the Tea Party wants. If moderate Republicans are happy with it and are willing to vote for it, then I have no problem at all with them declaring victory and sharing in the credit.
 
Kandahar said:
Ultimately it doesn't really matter much who takes credit. If Obama and Boehner both feel that they got the better end of the deal, that's great. It means that they were able to work together and actually get something done, and both come out of it not feeling like they backed down.

But in terms of the actual policy, I think the budget is a lot closer to what the Democrats wanted than it is to what the Tea Party wants. If moderate Republicans are happy with it and are willing to vote for it, then I have no problem at all with them declaring victory and sharing in the credit.
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I'm with you there. The deal works for what it is and both sides can take credit if they want to.
 
Kandahar said:
Ultimately it doesn't really matter much who takes credit. If Obama and Boehner both feel that they got the better end of the deal, that's great. It means that they were able to work together and actually get something done, and both come out of it not feeling like they backed down.

But in terms of the actual policy, I think the budget is a lot closer to what the Democrats wanted than it is to what the Tea Party wants. If moderate Republicans are happy with it and are willing to vote for it, then I have no problem at all with them declaring victory and sharing in the credit.
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How magnanimous of you considering there'd been no cuts if it had been up to the Dems. :roll:
 
X Factor said:
How magnanimous of you considering there'd been no cuts if it had been up to the Dems. :roll:
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True, but one wonders if some in the Tea Party would be idiotic enough to think they could manage the 60. I was impressed they nailed it at 39 rather than 38.
 
Fiddytree said:
True, but one wonders if some in the Tea Party would be idiotic enough to think they could manage the 60. I was impressed they nailed it at 39 rather than 38.
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Even 60 bil would not have been that great of a cut considering how much was spent last year, but I agree, it's better than nothing.
 
X Factor said:
Obama shouldn't be taking any credit at all when we all know, if it were up to him, there'd been no cuts at all. The deal's ok, but the cuts should have been deeper. Maybe in the 2012 budget.
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There would actually be increases if I remember correctly.

How many riders on this bill? Zero? Oo. No PP. No EPA. oO.
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The PP can survive without government funding. For example, you can fund it.

The myth that the EPA saved the country is disgusting. People like yourself are always bringing up China and claiming we would of ended up like China without the EPA. That is blatantly false to put it simply. We would have never turned out like China for two reasons, one, our court system, and two our prosperity. That is of course not paying any mind to the fact that China is in control of the system to a large degree, it is ignoring that if you speak up you get punished for doing so, but it is paying attention to one simple truth. People will do anything and accept a great deal more when they are struggling to make a name for themselves then when they aren't. They will also deal with a great deal of damage from their neighbors to their everyday lives if they have no way to stop it. Both are solved in our system at the moment, and neither were solved by the EPA. When companies were polluting in rivers, they got sued, and they cleaned up their acts. The EPA didn't solve that problem, it didn't avoid any future problems since, all it does is stop the business from solving the problem on their own. The EPA is not needed. The same is true for the FDA, or the FCC or Obama's consumers protection agency.

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The budget itself is pretty useless. A few billion dollars in cuts is completely pointless at this point, but asking anymore in this taker society is gifted with protest in response. Then again, asking for just that is gifted with it. Hell, any cuts at all is gifted with protest.
 
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Chappy said:
Who won the budget deal?

So what do you think?
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This question is PRECISELY the problem with the US and the idiotic partisanship that is ruining this country today. The issue with the budget is a competition between idiot conservatives and equally idiot liberals. NO ONE won. Everytime these two groups get together and fight about something like this, THE CITIZENS OF THE US LOSE.
 
Chappy said:
How many riders on this bill? Zero? Oo. No PP. No EPA. oO.
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Exactly, Boehner had fold his carda on those. My vote is for Pres. Obama and support from Harry Reid.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
This question is PRECISELY the problem with the US and the idiotic partisanship that is ruining this country today. The issue with the budget is a competition between idiot conservatives and equally idiot liberals. NO ONE won. Everytime these two groups get together and fight about something like this, THE CITIZENS OF THE US LOSE.
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I disagree, if it hadn't been for the fight, there'd been no cuts at all. It'd be too scary if both parties totally agreed with each other.
 
pbrauer said:
Exactly, Boehner had fold his carda on those. My vote is for Pres. Obama and support from Harry Reid.
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I think it's interesting that none of the liberals are concerned about whatever was cut. I guess all those govt programs really aren't as important as the Dems tried to get us to believe this week, right?
 
X Factor said:
I disagree, if it hadn't been for the fight, there'd been no cuts at all. It'd be too scary if both parties totally agreed with each other.
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I have no problem with them disagreeing. I have issue with the idiocy that they do. The bs accusations, the attempts to sneak stuff in, and the trying to "win". This isn't a competition.
 
X Factor said:
I think it's interesting that none of the liberals are concerned about whatever was cut. I guess all those govt programs really aren't as important as the Dems tried to get us to believe this week, right?
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Many of them aren't. Even PP could probably go 100% private funding in the near future. The difference is defunding through planning intead of cutting the jugular and seeing if it bleeds out or survives.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
I have no problem with them disagreeing. I have issue with the idiocy that they do. The bs accusations, the attempts to sneak stuff in, and the trying to "win". This isn't a competition.
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Yeah, but with two nearly polar opposite parties, fights are inevitable. In some ways it's good, but I agree that, in a lot of ways, it's just annoying.
 
X Factor said:
Yeah, but with two nearly polar opposite parties, fights are inevitable. In some ways it's good, but I agree that, in a lot of ways, it's just annoying.
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George Washington was right about political parties.
 
Gibberish said:
Many of them aren't. Even PP could probably go 100% private funding in the near future. The difference is defunding through planning intead of cutting the jugular and seeing if it bleeds out or survives.
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Really, you think PP will ever voluntarily give up it's fed funding? BTW, there's like 1.6 billion dollars in tax dollars that PP cannot account for. Where's the responsibility on PP's part to use fed funds wisely?
 
X Factor said:
You mean the budget Timothy Geitner admitted was unsustainable?
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Did it, or did it not cut the budget and begin that process? Why the need to spin things?


I know, you just can't bring yourself to credit Republicans, but did I imagine all those complaints from Dems, this week about having to make cuts?
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I have not denied that republicans get a share of the credit. Straw men are weak arguments. In fact, only you are trying to deny any party in this credit. Kinda ironic, no?
 
X Factor said:
I think it's interesting that none of the liberals are concerned about whatever was cut. I guess all those govt programs really aren't as important as the Dems tried to get us to believe this week, right?
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And again with the straw men. What was cut was important, and having a say in what was cut was important.
 
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