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Atlas Shrugged movie

Will you go see the Atlas Shrugged movie?

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Atlas shrugged is one of the hundreds of books I never found time to read. From what I've heard Ann Rand was awesome. So I will surely see the movie. It would come to cable ar some point.
 
Redress said:
You mean Achilles pride and temper where not flaws? Pride in fact is considered one of the "tragic flaws". Now think back on how The Illead started.
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Not in the views of the ancient greeks, no.

Perhaps you'll note that Achilles did not die in the Illiad. His fatal flaw showed up in later mythology, in the form of his heel. But that was not once mentioned in the heroic epics of Homer.
 
Mayor Snorkum said:
Not in the views of the ancient greeks, no.

Perhaps you'll note that Achilles did not die in the Illiad. His fatal flaw showed up in later mythology, in the form of his heel. But that was not once mentioned in the heroic epics of Homer.
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The Illiad Starts out with Achilles throwing a temper tantrum over a slave. Don't even try and pass it off as not portraying him with a tragic flaw.
 
samsmart said:
And this is why I consider her fictional works utopian and thus not applicable to the real world.
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Utopian is some kind of perfect world.
I don't think there is any real intent to create a perfect world, in fact the world needs to be a sort of dystopia for things to get better.
 
megaprogman said:
Yup. Those people HAVE to be taken care of, whether we personally like it or not. Morality demands it.
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Well I know that a lot of those people aren't taken care of now.

If your morality demands it, open your wallet and show how much you care.
No matter which world we chose, you shouldn't have a problem helping without a tax.
 
Redress said:
The Illiad Starts out with Achilles throwing a temper tantrum over a slave. Don't even try and pass it off as not portraying him with a tragic flaw.
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Which leads to the Greeks being pushed back, which leads to Achilles' lover fighting the Greeks in his place, which leads to his death.

The whole thing ends with Achilles and the father of the man who killed Achilles' lover weeping in each other's arms at all they've lost.
 
Lachean said:
The only way governments sustain a capitalistic economy are by enforcing property rights, contracts, having law courts, and military/police.
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So essentially protecting the wealthy from the poor, each other, and their foreign counterparts.

Can ya give us any examples where this kind of paradise actually exists?
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Well I know that a lot of those people aren't taken care of now.

If your morality demands it, open your wallet and show how much you care.
No matter which world we chose, you shouldn't have a problem helping without a tax.
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My morality demands it of me and everyone :)
 
Redress said:
The Illiad Starts out with Achilles throwing a temper tantrum over a slave. Don't even try and pass it off as not portraying him with a tragic flaw.
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That's the problem with the poorly educated. They insist on reading literature from their own perspective and lack the ability to even try to view the literature from the position of a member of the culture for which it was written.

Mayor Snorkum is betting you believe the story "Moby Dick" was either about a whale or a porno-film.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Utopian is some kind of perfect world.
I don't think there is any real intent to create a perfect world, in fact the world needs to be a sort of dystopia for things to get better.
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In this sense, 'utopian' could be said to mean idealistic or unrealistic concepts of a future world; the world as SHE imagines it could or should be.
 
I think Ayn's best work was her original piece, We the Living.

In my view, Atlas Shrugged was a mixed bag. It was to Libertarianism what Religulous was to Atheism. Entertaining, but not altogether the first source of material I would use to build my philosophical foundation. Yes, I know I chose the username ElijahGalt in reference to John Galt, but frankly it's because I'm not that creative in establishing usernames. I wanted something that sort of fused my personal identity with my philosophical identity. Elijah is my first name, and Galt is the name of a character that some, but not all people would recognize in Atlas Shrugged.

Rand was far too anarchical for my tastes. She also did not deliver her ideas with the grace I would expect from an influential thinker. Still, I think there's a lot that can be learned from reading her works.
 
I imagine the trilogy will become a big flop.

Instead, watch the 1942 classic, We the Living



As I said, I find it to be her best work.
 
Gardener said:
Finally, a movie for those who live in glass houses.
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I'm sure you'll enjoy it inordinately. :mrgreen:

BTW I just noticed you're taking the weewee. There's never been a film of the Zamyatin book and none planned.
 
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Hicup said:
In what way?


Tim-
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One of the most basic considerations of morality is in how we treat others, specifically in a non selfish or harmful manner. The idea that one can be selfish and moral is a paradox.
 
megaprogman said:
One of the most basic considerations of morality is in how we treat others, specifically in a non selfish or harmful manner. The idea that one can be selfish and moral is a paradox.
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Well I was referring to your notion that she heavily influenced modern conservativism. Yes, I know Limbaugh, Hannity love her work, but I wanted to know why YOU thought she had a major influence? Since you brought it up, do you really believe that the idea that one can be selfish and moral is a paradox? I would to hear your ideas on this.


Tim-
 
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