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Do you support Libyan partition?

Do you support Libyan partition?


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Do you support Libyan partition?

The current condition appears to be a stalemate between the rebels and Gaddafi loyalists.

Richard Haass on Fareed Zakaria's GPS on CNN this morning that the truly humanitarian action is to move to Libyan partition.

Is leaving Gaddafi in power acceptable to you? What about Pan Am Flight 103? Gaddafi had that plane blown up two years after the Americans bombed Libya in response to the La Belle disco bombing in Berlin, 1986. We've done a lot worse lately, huh?

Libyan Partition === Leave Gaddafi in power, stop the dying now

Do you support Libyan partition?
 
Sure, if that's what both sides agree to. I question the logistics though, since the rebels are currently in control of a city in the west (Misurata) and Gaddafi still controls some of the oil fields east of it. I also doubt that either side in the conflict would genuinely agree to a partition of the country.
 
Sure, if that's what both sides agree to. I question the logistics though, since the rebels are currently in control of a city in the west (Misurata) and Gaddafi still controls some of the oil fields east of it. I also doubt that either side in the conflict would genuinely agree to a partition of the country.

It's just a gigantic **** up with no solution I can think of.

Sure we could all "Partition" Libya. Arm the **** out of East Libya and watch them go at it again in a couple of years, only to have the East Libyans lose or win and have one side slaughter the other when they entire Benghazi/Tripoli.

:shrug:

**** it all.
 
A partition is an acceptable outcome to the Libyan situation, but is not optimal. Without detailed information about the military strength of the rebels or loyalists you can't really draw a strong conclusion. However, a temporary ceasefire might be a good idea. The rebels can sell oil for weapons (not from the U.S.) and try and train some of their militias into real soldiers. Meanwhile, the U.S. can simply embargo Qadaffi to prevent him from getting resupplied. It would take a lot of attrition, but eventually the material superiority would greatly favor the rebels.
 
Normally I disagree with absolute point of views, but in this case, I believe that Libya as a whole needs to transition away from a Gaddhafi style government, and towards a democratic government. Partition would not achieve that goal, not in its entirety, because I'm sure there are people in Tripoli who want democracy, they're just getting shot up, and suppresed by the government. As such, the only acceptable outcome, is democracy without Gaddhafi.

"Victory at all costs. Victory in spite of all terrors. Victory however long and hard the road may be. For without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
 
Mayor Snorkum supports the partition where all Libyans have the freedom to kill each other as they please in Libya and the United States stays outside and enjoys the show from afar. That includes excluding all US forces under NATO, the UN, or Unicef.
 
A partition is an acceptable outcome to the Libyan situation, but is not optimal. Without detailed information about the military strength of the rebels or loyalists you can't really draw a strong conclusion. However, a temporary ceasefire might be a good idea. The rebels can sell oil for weapons (not from the U.S.) and try and train some of their militias into real soldiers. Meanwhile, the U.S. can simply embargo Qadaffi to prevent him from getting resupplied. It would take a lot of attrition, but eventually the material superiority would greatly favor the rebels.

Why shouldn't the US be allowed to sell weapons in Libya, if the customers have cash, presuming we can trust their claims of end use?

Then again, we should probably take as much of their money as possible and ship them boxes of used clock parts. Those are connected with Libya for reasons the Mayor isn't going to explain.
 
Sure, if that's what both sides agree to. I question the logistics though, since the rebels are currently in control of a city in the west (Misurata) and Gaddafi still controls some of the oil fields east of it. I also doubt that either side in the conflict would genuinely agree to a partition of the country.

Neither the United States nor the United Nations has any authority to arbitrarily partition a sovereign nation. Let them fight it out and figure it out on their own.

MYOB is one of the most important rules of living ever invented.
 
Neither the United States nor the United Nations has any authority to arbitrarily partition a sovereign nation.

Hmm. I don't recall saying that they did.

Mayor Snorkum said:
Let them fight it out and figure it out on their own.

Ultimately that's going to be what will happen. I think it defies credibility to think that either side would accept a partition. They'd be fighting again within days, if not minutes.
 
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