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De-fund NPR and PBS

Defund NPR and PBS!

  • I agree!

    Votes: 41 47.7%
  • I disagree.

    Votes: 45 52.3%

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Yes, let's defund two of the best educational tools available today the US. We're already falling behind the rest of the world, why not just screw ourselves over completely.

LOL....you actually believe that?

Well we had DNC TV/RADIO for decades.......if the functional illiterates of today are proof of its value.........

......cut it today..... and get a refund from the "Good Corporation" of Public Broadcasting tomorrow.
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LOL....you actually believe that?

Well we had DNC TV/RADIO for decades.......if the functional illiterates of today are proof of its value.........

......cut it today..... and get a refund from the "Good Corporation" of Public Broadcasting tomorrow.
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You do realize we wouldn't actually save that fraction of a fraction of a percent of our budget, it would just get spent elsewhere.
 
You do realize we wouldn't actually save that fraction of a fraction of a percent of our budget, it would just get spent elsewhere.

To total the taxpayer contribution every year since 1967 to this rathole.......would perhaps equate a spending cut big enough for you to get behind.

The chance to remove this albeit one of many wellstones...from this budget....and the next 20 budgets or eternity.......is perhaps a spending cut big enough for your bankrupt children to support.
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To total the taxpayer contribution every year since 1967 to this rathole.......would perhaps equate a spending cut big enough for you to get behind.

The chance to remove this albeit one of many wellstones...from this budget....and the next 20 budgets or eternity.......is perhaps a spending cut big enough for your bankrupt children to support.
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So....we're going back nearly half a century to justify this outrage our we? How much did we spend on the military in that time? Social security? Medicade/medicare? ****, in 50 years we've spent a ton more on well more projects than NPR. This is as stupid as an argument can get; you want to aggregate over decades and compare to yearly spending? Seriously? We pissed through over 40 years of NPR funding in a few days in Libya, but NPR is what's going to make my children broke? Seriously? This is your argument? You need to learn to think before you post.
 
So....we're going back nearly half a century to justify this outrage our we?

Well it certainly justifies some of our debt and deficit........

How much did we spend on the military in that time? Social security? Medicade/medicare? ****, in 50 years we've spent a ton more on well more projects than NPR. This is as stupid as an argument can get; you want to aggregate over decades and compare to yearly spending? Seriously? We pissed through over 40 years of NPR funding in a few days in Libya, but NPR is what's going to make my children broke? Seriously? This is your argument? You need to learn to think before you post.

Cutting the rathole of the CPB is but one of many steps. Its but one of many cuts......in trying to slay the beast. Its one step in a 14 Trillion dollar journey.

Saying we shouldnt take the step because its only a small step.......is why were bankrupt.....and a testament to willfull ignorance.

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Well it certainly justifies some of our debt and deficit........

No it doesn't. If you aggregate anything over long enough time period, you can make it seem like a large number. But it's not, particularly when related to the REST OF OUR BUDGET.

Do people just not like math these days?

Cutting the rathole of the CPB is but one of many steps. Its but one of many cuts......in trying to slay the beast. Its one step in a 14 Trillion dollar journey.

Saying we shouldnt take the step because its only a small step.......is why were bankrupt.....and a testament to willfull ignorance.

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That's a dumb dumb dumb dumb statement. We're bankrupt now BECAUSE WE DON'T CUT THE BIG STUFF. Cut NPR, do it. THen what? Are we really any closer? Are we going to say "well we cut NPR, so I guess we can go after the military now"? This is a retarded deflection topic and nothing more, it takes focus away from where it should be. And even if you cut NPR...so what? You think that money will be saved? You didn't change any dynamics, you didn't restrict government. They'll just spend that money elsewhere.

Seriously, if you want to gain control of the government, you have to use your brain! We can not let the government play our collective ADD against us anymore. We have to focus, we have to pay attention, we must refuse to be taken in by deflection topics. Otherwise, you're pissing in the wind. You're just going to spin your wheels, get us nowhere other than further in debt. Learn to think!
 
I don't think it's the "best", but PBS is the only station that shows Nova programs anymore. **** you Discover Channel!

The Discovery channel has become insulting, lowbrow media. Gold Rush, Myth Busters, Pawn Dicks (or whatever it is), American Loggers, Shark Week...

All sensational stuff, and nothing can be learned from a lot of it. Kudos for Planet Earth, though.
 
If we build our iron curtain big enough maybe we can block the BBC too!

Wait, what's that going to cost?
 
Should defund the Republican party instead.. would save far more money.
 
Of course, it should be defunded. I'm shocked that liberals don't see the danger, real and possible, in government-funded "news" programs. I understand that some people actually enjoy NPR and PBS. Fine. Pay for it. Oh, wait, it's far more fun to force other people to pay for what you want, isn't it?
 
I don't think it's the "best", but PBS is the only station that shows Nova programs anymore. **** you Discover Channel!

Man Discovery is **** now...remember when they would show cool stuff like Walking with Dinosaurs? That stuff was da ****.
 
The Discovery channel has become insulting, lowbrow media. Gold Rush, Myth Busters, Pawn Dicks (or whatever it is), American Loggers, Shark Week...

All sensational stuff, and nothing can be learned from a lot of it. Kudos for Planet Earth, though.

Sometimes it is like reading David McCullough. It's relaxing, it does not take much effort, everyone likes it....but at the end of the day, I always return to other scholars.
 
The Discovery channel has become insulting, lowbrow media. Gold Rush, Myth Busters, Pawn Dicks (or whatever it is), American Loggers, Shark Week...

All sensational stuff, and nothing can be learned from a lot of it. Kudos for Planet Earth, though.

Myth Busters is convenient. Look at all the gun grabbing idiots who were wetting their pants at the thought that not denying Americans their Constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms just because they boarded an airplane would have prevented 9-11. The lame argument of the gun grabbers was that a itty bitty bullet could cause explosive decompression and kill everyone on the aircraft.

Pointing to the Aloha Airlines Convertible accident, in which the top of the plane ripped off, and killed only one unsecured stewardess, doesn't sway them.

But if the idiots are pointed to the Myth Busters episode where they try to create explosive decompression, the idiot gun grabbers shut up and go away for a while.

I say Myth Busters is essential anti-idiot medicine. PBS never did anything as useful as that.
 
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So....we're going back nearly half a century to justify this outrage our we? How much did we spend on the military in that time? Social security? Medicade/medicare? ****, in 50 years we've spent a ton more on well more projects than NPR. This is as stupid as an argument can get; you want to aggregate over decades and compare to yearly spending? Seriously? We pissed through over 40 years of NPR funding in a few days in Libya, but NPR is what's going to make my children broke? Seriously? This is your argument? You need to learn to think before you post.

Then again, you could start a thread on the wisdom of taking money from taxpayers to fund whatever program bugs you. And if your pet peeve is a program in violation of the Constitution, as is PBS and NPR, Mayor Snorkum will stand with you in opposition. But claiming that other programs cost more and are more harmful to the budget than PBS and NPR misses the point that PBS and NPR are illegally funded, and your argument does not alter that fact in anyway.
 
That's a dumb dumb dumb dumb statement. We're bankrupt now BECAUSE WE DON'T CUT THE BIG STUFF.

We're going to remain bankrupt because we can't cut ANYTHING. Our budget crisis will fade when only one thing happens:

Spending is brought inside the Constitution. And that means cutting everything we can cut when we can cut it, if it's dangling outside the protection of the Constitution.

That we also must explore spending inside the Constitution and cut that as well, goes without saying. But there's no point in whining about the big unconstitutional stuff, like social security, education, welfare, and Obamacare, if you're not willing to cut the little stuff.

Cut NPR, do it. THen what? Are we really any closer? Are we going to say "well we cut NPR, so I guess we can go after the military now"?

The military budget is mostly Constitutional and requires a different approach. It requires that the public elect presidents who will use the military to serve only America's interests, not their own short-sighted political needs. In a word, it requires a mature public. A mature public won't whine for NPR, if they want it, they'll contribute their own money for it.

But other than that, yes, cutting NPR successfully allows those with the itty-bitty nose-hair clippers to buy something bigger, like toe-nail clippers, and maybe, eventually, they'll be able to afford a 125 horsepower self-propelled motorized hedge row trimmer or maybe even a genuine corn harvester to trim the federal budget.

but all they have right now are nose hair trimmers.

This is a retarded deflection topic and nothing moe, i takes focus away from where it should be. And even if you cut NPR...so what? You think that money will be saved? You didn't change any dynamics, you didn't restrict government. They'll just spend that money elsewhere.

This is so sad. Mayor Snorkum knows from your posts that you do possess the ability to present logical arguments. Why are you not doing so now?

Seriously, if you want to gain control of the government, you have to use your brain! We can not let the government play our collective ADD against us anymore. We have to focus, we have to pay attention, we must refuse to be taken in by deflection topics. Otherwise, you're pissing in the wind. You're just going to spin your wheels, get us nowhere other than further in debt. Learn to think![/QUOTE]
 
Myth Busters is convenient. Look at all the gun grabbing idiots who were wetting their pants at the thought that not denying Americans their Constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms just because they boarded an airplane would have prevented 9-11. The lame argument of the gun grabbers was that a itty bitty bullet could cause explosive decompression and kill everyone on the aircraft.

Pointing to the Aloha Airlines Convertible accident, in which the top of the plane ripped off, and killed only one unsecured stewardess, doesn't sway them.

But if the idiots are pointed to the Myth Busters episode where they try to create explosive decompression, the idiot gun grabbers shut up and go away for a while.

I say Myth Busters is essential anti-idiot medicine. PBS never did anything as useful as that.

I saw them drive a car off a cliff recently to see if it would explode...

And they built a 'rocket,' which any idiot knew wouldn't fly, to try to reproduce a claim that a guy blasted himself up high and landed safely a couple hundred years ago, or some such nonsense. So, they wanted to bust an event that couldn't have happened anyway. But it was sensational!
 
That's what the cable companies did.

No... No, they didn't. No one forces you to pay the cable companies a dime. CPB is funded by money taken from you by threat of force against your liberty at the point of a gun.

Quite a substantial difference, and enough to nullify your comparison.
 
No... No, they didn't. No one forces you to pay the cable companies a dime. CPB is funded by money taken from you by threat of force against your liberty at the point of a gun.

Quite a substantial difference, and enough to nullify your comparison.

Actually, no. The cable companies lobbied Congress and got some very nice laws. One of which eliminates local competition. Each city/county has essentially 1 Cable company. You can do other things like Dish; but it's either Cable (for example, where I live it's only Comcast), Dish, or attenna. Additionally, within the laws passed by Congress for the cable companies is one which prevents the offering of ala cart. Everything becomes prepackaged. So you have to pay for channels you may not watch. I have Oxygen which I have to pay for, never watched it. I can't, for instance, call up Comcast and say "I just want the local channels, Cartoon Network, and Comedy Central". I have to pay for well more channels than I would buy. If there was true free market going on here where I would have 3 or more cable companies to choose from with the option of ala cart programming, my cable bills would be a lot lower and a lot of those crappy channels would go under.

NPR may recieve tax payer money, but if I want cable, I am also forced to subsidize dozens of other channels I will never watch.
 
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