Harry Guerrilla
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We have more than 10% that don't have any health care coverage. Most of the rest of us have employee paid insurance.
That's not entirely true, that often quoted number doesn't remove those who have access but chose not to participate.
No, of course you can't give everyone unlimited access. All the rhetoric about rationing seemed to ignore that fact.
You're drawing conclusions from simple statistical data, these people in countries with single payer/UHC systems, do not receive platinum care, they get average care, yet they have higher life expectancies.
Average does not create the best results.
There are other things at work here, racial demographics and overall cultural practices.
How does that relate to your original statement? Medicaid is for the indigent.
Medicaid is for the indigent, on paper.
If I remember correctly, some states give Medicaid to all pregnant women, who apply.
But never the less, we have practically complete coverage for pregnant woman and for children on a near universal scale.
Why are our infant mortality rates higher?
It can't be because of access to medical care.
and yet, they have a lower infant mortality and higher life expectancy. Other factors show the US somewhere in the middle.
But, those were just facts I linked to. I'd be willing to bet you didn't even look at them.
I did, that's why I said many of those factors are unrelated to medical care.
Obesity being one.
Life expectancy is a bunk statistic to use, to rate a medical care system.
It's loaded with more significant factors, besides medical care.
No, but a lot of them are driven by the quality of health care.
If you think that we actually have a better outcome as a result of our higher spending on health care, can you support your opinion?
What makes you think they get better quality of care?
One of our problems here is that we supposedly do to much to treat people, now our quality is lacking?
Which is it?
Sure, we spend more on cancer treatments than other countries who have UHC, our 5 year survival rates for some cancers are higher.