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Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

Do You Favor Nuclear Power?

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Chappy said:

I phrased my comment poorly. Certainly Tokyo is subject to significant seismic activity; but, other areas of Japan were considered to be more likely candidates for where the “big one” would strike.

Which should humble all those who are in the business of situating nuclear power plants.

“Pride goes before destruction.” — Proverbs 16:18​
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Not suppose to happen by whose determination.......Man? I guess someone should have told the earthquake maker, eh?
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Oh - clean as in 'it's toxic byproduct is liquid' Ok - gotcha.

Oh - I must point out, here, that we don't use nuclear energy in our VEHICLES - we use nuclear energy to create *electricity* - I'm SURE I don't get any of my non-nuclear electricity from the Middle East. Unless you're referring to the failed notion of an electric car :) that portion of your argument does not apply.

On that note - I do support us becoming a larger figure in the oil-industry - but that's not related to nuclear-production of electricity at all. Oil itself has it's drawbacks and concerns but they're nominal in regard to the nuclear-energy 'idea'
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It would be if the USA didn't get a good chunk of it's Energy from Petroleum aka Oil.

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Soruce link. EIA's Energy in Brief: What are the major sources and users of energy in the United States?
 
Cook pie chart- check me out, hanging out with the 21%

I only support actual clean, natural sources like water, wind and solar - and for several years I've been toying with the idea of going 100% solar for my own home.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Cook pie chart- check me out, hanging out with the 21%

I only support actual clean, natural sources like water, wind and solar - and for several years I've been toying with the idea of going 100% solar for my own home.
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Which is all find dandy for small usages but not realistic on a national scale.
 
cpgrad08 said:
Which is all find dandy for small usages but not realistic on a national scale.
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Everything has a drawback - nuclear's drawbacks are far more massive than the drawback of these other sources. Yet significant advances have been made as far as the efficiency of these 3 sources. Especially when it comes to harnessing water - some new methods are just as efficient as the classic dam/compression method and some require no dam at all.

It seems that I'm consider more things that 'how much energy does it produce.'
 
Nuclear power is currently one of the safest, cleanest, most reliable forms of energy we can have. Of course we shouldn't stagnate on it, we need to push forward to find even better energy sources. But there's no reason to be afraid.
 
Ikari said:
Nuclear power is currently one of the safest, cleanest, most reliable forms of energy we can have. Of course we shouldn't stagnate on it, we need to push forward to find even better energy sources. But there's no reason to be afraid.
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Are you sure about that? The Japanese seem to be afraid of it right now.
 
Tashah said:
My home receives power from a ComEd nuclear reactor …
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Indian Point?

“Indian Point is situated at the intersection of the two most striking linear features marking the seismicity and also in the midst of a large population that is at risk in case of an accident. This is clearly one of the least favorable sites in our study area from an earthquake hazard and risk perspective.” — study, “Observations and Tectonic Setting of Historic and Instrumentally Located Earthquakes in the Greater New York City–Philadelphia Area” (pdf) by Lynn R. Sykes, John G. Armbruster, Won-Young Kim, and Leonardo Seebe, Bulletin of the Seismological Society of America, Vol. 98, No. 4, pp. 1696–1719, August 2008​

In other recent news:

Excerpted from “New York Denies Indian Point a Water Permit” By DAVID M. HALBFINGER, The New York Times, Published: April 3, 2010
[SIZE="+2"]I[/SIZE]n a major victory for environmental advocates, New York State has ruled that outmoded cooling technology at the Indian Point nuclear power plant kills so many Hudson River fish, and consumes and contaminates so much water, that it violates the federal Clean Water Act. …
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pbrauer said:
Given what's taking place in Japan's reactors after the earthquake, this is certainly a topical question. Not much to add.
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I am leaning towards not sure and no. Some people are saying oh its not really that bad it won't be like Chernobyl, Chernobyl was part of some dirt poor cheap ass soviet union design.However Japan is not a 3rd world country and and a lot of our nuclear plants have the same design as theirs and they are talking on the news about a full meltdown and a radioactive leak that may last months and a nuclear fallout. I am not sure a worst case scenario with nuclear power plants is worth having them. I am pretty sure that if a coal power plant explodes then everything can quickly be cleaned up and a new coal power plant rebuilt. I am not so sure the same thing can be said about a nuclear power plant.
 
jamesrage said:
I am leaning towards not sure and no. Some people are saying oh its not really that bad it won't be like Chernobyl, Chernobyl was part of some dirt poor cheap ass soviet union design.However Japan is not a 3rd world country and and a lot of our nuclear plants have the same design as theirs and they are talking on the news about a full meltdown and a radioactive leak that may last months and a nuclear fallout. I am not sure a worst case scenario with nuclear power plants is worth having them. I am pretty sure that if a coal power plant explodes then everything can quickly be cleaned up and a new coal power plant rebuilt. I am not so sure the same thing can be said about a nuclear power plant.
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It'll be worst case a partial meltdown, I'm pretty sure they have most of it under control now though. Modern nuclear plants have so many failsafe measures put in them, I doubt we'd have anything like Chernobyl even with a magnitude 10 earthquake. This'll end up being another Three mile island, nothing to worry about.
 
UtahBill said:
looks like I am wrong, but I did read somewhere that some members are trying to get a dialogue going. Tho it may have been greenpeace of some other group....
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Democrat Sierra Club NO-Energy Policies..........

.....the Party of NO for the last 5 decades......and the only reason this country remains energy (D)epenendent.
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Badmutha said:
Democrat Sierra Club NO-Energy Policies..........

.....the Party of NO for the last 5 decades......and the only reason this country remains energy (D)epenendent.
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Lol, is that supposed to be a joke? The only president in the last few decades who actually gave a legitimate try to energy independence was carter.
 
iamitter said:
… I'm pretty sure they have most of it under control now though. …
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I fear not.

Excerpted from “Emergency Cooling Effort Failing at Japanese Reactor, Deepening Crisis” By HIROKO TABUCHI, KEITH BRADSHER and MATT WALD, The New York Times, Published: March 14, 2011
[SIZE="+2"]J[/SIZE]apan’s struggle to contain the crisis at a stricken nuclear power plant worsened sharply early Tuesday morning, as emergency operations to pump seawater into one crippled reactor failed at least temporarily, increasing the risk of an uncontrolled release of radioactive material, officials said. …

The plant’s operator, Tokyo Electric Power, said late Monday that repeated efforts to inject seawater into the reactor had failed, causing water levels inside the reactor’s containment vessel to fall and exposing its fuel rods. After what at first appeared to be a successful bid to refill the vessel, water levels again dwindled, this time to critical levels, exposing the rods almost completely, company executives said.

Workers were having difficulty injecting seawater into the reactor because its vents — necessary to release pressure in the containment vessel by allowing radioactive steam to escape — had stopped working properly, they said. …
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iamitter said:
Lol, is that supposed to be a joke? The only president in the last few decades who actually gave a legitimate try to energy independence was carter.
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Democrat Sierra Club NO-Energy Policies have been banning Made In The USA Energy for the last 5 decades......

.......it might be funny.....if it wasnt so true.....
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Tucker Case said:
Even if you read it wrong, Indian Point is not owned by ConEd. Entergy owns it. To my knowledge, ConEd doesn't own any nuclear reactors anymore.
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Thanks for that; you know we're all interested. My misreading ComEd as ConEd, led me to believe Tasha was in New York and that the nuclear power plant she referred to might be Indian Point. And, my point was that Indian Point is another example of a poorly situated facility which represents a significant threat to a large population were it ever to lose containment. Nuclear power, rightly or wrongly, will always be highly controversial in this country which increases the costs to such an extent that it becomes economically unfeasible.
 
Chappy said:
Thanks for that; you know we're all interested. My misreading ComEd as ConEd, led me to believe Tasha was in New York and that the nuclear power plant she referred to might be Indian Point. And, my point was that Indian Point is another example of a poorly situated facility which represents a significant threat to a large population were it ever to lose containment. Nuclear power, rightly or wrongly, will always be highly controversial in this country which increases the costs to such an extent that it becomes economically unfeasible.
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Even if you did misread ComEd as ConEd, the fact that Indian Point is not owned or operated by ConEd implies that you make assumptions about things without taking the time to check the facts.

This does not inspire confidence in your opinions on issues, because it becomes impossible to discern what is a legitimate piece of information and what is a baseless assumption not founded in fact.
 
pbrauer said:
Given what's taking place in Japan's reactors after the earthquake, this is certainly a topical question. Not much to add.
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Nuke power is just not cost efficient, we already have cheaper natural resources that can secure our power needs for at least the next century.
Nuke power costs on average 2-3x more per kilowatt hour.

Not to mention that almost every level of it is subsidized by the government, from fuel collection to construction.
 
Tucker Case said:
Even if you did misread ComEd as ConEd, the fact that Indian Point is not owned or operated by ConEd implies that you make assumptions about things without taking the time to check the facts.

This does not inspire confidence in your opinions on issues, because it becomes impossible to discern what is a legitimate piece of information and what is a baseless assumption not founded in fact.
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LOL. Who owns Indian Point is irrelevant to which power company serves Westchester County and NYC.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Nuke power is just not cost efficient, we already have cheaper natural resources that can secure our power needs for at least the next century.
Nuke power costs on average 2-3x more per kilowatt hour.

Not to mention that almost every level of it is subsidized by the government, from fuel collection to construction.
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DUDE!!!! Where have you been.

Nice to see you back :mrgreen:
 
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