MaggieD
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seriously, are you having a stroke?
More likely Kitty on Keyboard.
seriously, are you having a stroke?
seriously, are you having a stroke?
Note to self: A Service Based Country is a state of Bankruptcy........
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If we are going to ban anyone, its should be the law-makers themselves...What have they done to merit their high pay and pension and benefits?Add to that: police officers, garbagemen, mailmen.
These people produce nadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I say we ban those guys too and see how long any of them stick around.
If we are going to ban anyone, its should be the law-makers themselves...What have they done to merit their high pay and pension and benefits?
20% of them should be cut, and the citizens will have to learn to be more self-reliant.
A forgotten factor is fairness..[/qutoe
yeahal.ike maybe the afairness of not being publicly threatnee d with death, or having public empllyee union s threaten fyour family?
The legislatures and executive branches of government are highly paid and have a pension that is many-fold more than mine..[/qtuoe]
andtheat should becout next. not likel theyv'e earned it.
Fairness and some economic common sense must rule the day..Taxes must be increased if they have become too low, if in the past, there have been ill-advised tax cuts.
increaseingtaxes doesnot do any good as far sas increased revenue is conderdd. you gottta cut spending at athis point.
Where exactly do you think they are going to go?............Canada?
As we all know.....Policing, Sanitation, and Delivery never existed before Unions were created.....
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seriousliy public asector younions are a threat to democracya . that's vor serious, youdindn't see eruope? when they did the austerity measures/? thos peopel are a threat that need to be gd3ealt with wbefore theyb ecoem real threat here.
Drinking and posting do not mix.
Seriously, are you ok?
I couldn't applaud this post anymoreThere is one fundamental difference between the private sector and the public. The public sector does not have the same check and balance that the private sector has, meaning the private sector cannot continue to pay inflated wages while continuing to increase debt year after year. No business can remain in the red decade after decade and stay afloat. They either make adjustments or go under. The public sector on the other hand can continue to borrow money to cover expenditures. This allows Unions to continuously raise demands beyond a reasonable level. Consider what we are seeing right now. I believe the only reason we are finally seeing some sort of resistance to the unions is because of political opposition. If Dems had remained in power in those particular states things would have continues down the same old destructive path.
Do you support ending all Public Sector Unions?
No. But at the same time there should be some things-
1.No one should be forced to join a union as a condition of employment
2.No one should be forced to pay dues as a condition of employment.
3.Employers should be free to fire workers who go on strike.
4.An employee should be free to join or start a union of their choosing if they want to.In other words there can be more than one teachers union, more than one firemans union and etc.
By the looks of the poll results you should have made votes public because it looks like the poll has been tampered with.
No, I don't support ending public unions. However I would support denying them the right to negotiate with any politician that they spent money towards getting elected.
Wouldnt those conditions effectively end Public Sector Unions?
If they cant go on strike....the Union bark has no bite.
91 members plus generally do not participate in the same poll and with out being able to see who voted there is no sure way of seeing how many members voted verses how many so called anonymous votes happened.It was public when I first created it......
......anyways..... 64% support ending Public Sector Unions....even if it was tampered with......WINNING.....
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I have trouble justifying public sector unions but I imagine they do keep up the private sector wages.
Actually they really didn't with the exception of mail delivery and even that was sub par. Sanitation was only a concern for people living in major American cities for most of the 19th century. Nobody wanted to do it because there was no benefit to picking up other people's crap. The majority of Americans in major cities lived in complete squalor prior to the creation of unions and sanitation services. Policing? Haha. Don't make me laugh. US cities were as bad as the wild west before the creation of unions unions. Not sure about the rural landscape but I doubt it was much better. Seriously, the biggest things the US handled in the 19th century was the post office and the military. In terms of hygiene, this country was a horrible place to live during the early years of the 20th century. The creation of unions provided a big change to that. They created an incentive for people to do the jobs that were dangerous, disgusting and base.