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At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

At this point, do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?

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Why Not ??? It is truly not his fault the State Of The Union is in such a Critical State.... I personally think Obama is certainly and honestly trying to make a bad situation better... But a lot of People who are Politically Ignorant do not understand the process and they think he can create a miracle by waving his hands and signing a paper in the Oval Office....
Yes I could vote for him because he seems to be the Best Man Out There.
 
Badmutha said:
What would I have to refute since apparently every bit of data prior to Obama's political career is "Irrelevant"......in your book and Tom Brokaw's book.

............perhaps if the media didnt spend every waking moment in Wasilla dumpsters.......
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Apparently you didn't read my post too well. The only things I stated were irrelevant are those that are irrelevant. The rest I explained why you were wrong. As for your "wasilla dumptsters" comment, How much do you know about Palin? Do you want to know her medical records? Her passport information? How about her elementary education?

However you are correct in critisizing the media for focusing too much on Palin and not enough on Obama. Much of the media did give him a hall pass in that respect.

Badmutha said:
If there wasnt some issue with Obama's BC........the Kenyan Tyrant would have released it the moment this controversy arose.
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The only issues as far as his BC is concerned are coming from those that hate Obama because he is either a liberal or because he's black and don't want to admit that he is thier legal POTUS. Everyone else with a neutral mind set agree that the BC that he presented is enough and is real.

What I find funny is that this issue of needing the long form BC was never needed until a black man was even seriously thought of as a POTUS.

Badmutha said:
What I have a right to know and what is expected of the self proclaimed "Most Transparent President" in history is far between.
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What you think you have a right to know is far between what you actually need to know. BTW, still waiting for proof that he is the most non-transparent POTUS ever. Found anything to support that yet?

Badmutha said:
Considering all his records are sealed..........nobody has the picture yet.....kinda like that missing Birth Certificate isnt it.
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What relevant records are sealed? He's provided his BC. He's provided the college's he graduated from (and there is evidence he went to them and graduated). His vote record while sitting in the Senate is open to all. Everything that he has said in front of the media is open for all to see (including some from long before he even ran for POTUS). What else do you want? That is relevent.
 
Minnie T. Mouse said:
Why Not ??? It is truly not his fault the State Of The Union is in such a Critical State.... I personally think Obama is certainly and honestly trying to make a bad situation better... But a lot of People who are Politically Ignorant do not understand the process and they think he can create a miracle by waving his hands and signing a paper in the Oval Office....
Yes I could vote for him because he seems to be the Best Man Out There.
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No one expects him to wave his hands and fix things. What they do expect from him is responsibility, accountability, transparency, and better policies than he has supported thus far.
 
Barbbtx said:
You at least gotta admit he's the least transparent president ever. Do we even know if he has a library card?
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This is so soooo lame to keep wasting time and energy on a done deal, this President birth certificate has been shown on Prime time television, news papers, posted on internet and every sort of communication system on Planet Earth....
There are still a few Poor Souls and Unbelievers out there in La La Land ranting about this detail, meanwhile there are soooo much and soooo many importance decisions and delicate issuses to be handled with Care!!!
 
Minnie T. Mouse said:
Why Not ??? It is truly not his fault the State Of The Union is in such a Critical State.... I personally think Obama is certainly and honestly trying to make a bad situation better... But a lot of People who are Politically Ignorant do not understand the process and they think he can create a miracle by waving his hands and signing a paper in the Oval Office.... Yes I could vote for him because he seems to be the Best Man Out There.
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The willfully ignorant are those that thought any of Obama's Big Government Solutions would actually work........

........considering they have all been tried and failed, 0-976, with a 0.0% success rate.

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Minnie T. Mouse said:
This is so soooo lame to keep wasting time and energy on a done deal, this President birth certificate has been shown on Prime time television, news papers, posted on internet and every sort of communication system on Planet Earth....
There are still a few Poor Souls and Unbelievers out there in La La Land ranting about this detail, meanwhile there are soooo much and soooo many importance decisions and delicate issuses to be handled with Care!!!
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Hawaii Won't Release Obama Birth Info - CBS News

Hawaii Won't Release Obama Birth Info
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.....in other words my willfully ignorant friend.....you havent seen Jack ****.
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Kal'Stang said:
Apparently you didn't read my post too well. The only things I stated were irrelevant are those that are irrelevant. The rest I explained why you were wrong. As for your "wasilla dumptsters" comment, How much do you know about Palin? Do you want to know her medical records? Her passport information? How about her elementary education?

However you are correct in critisizing the media for focusing too much on Palin and not enough on Obama. Much of the media did give him a hall pass in that respect.
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They were too busy demanding records from Republicans........too scared of being called a racist for questioning why ALL OF OBAMA'S RECORDS are off limits.


The only issues as far as his BC is concerned are coming from those that hate Obama because he is either a liberal or because he's black and don't want to admit that he is thier legal POTUS. Everyone else with a neutral mind set agree that the BC that he presented is enough and is real.

What I find funny is that this issue of needing the long form BC was never needed until a black man was even seriously thought of as a POTUS.
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What I find funny........is any rational person would have released their original long from BC the moment the controversy arose......just to make it go away.....if not rub it in the eye of the opposition.

........2 years later and were taking a Politicians word for it.

What you think you have a right to know is far between what you actually need to know. BTW, still waiting for proof that he is the most non-transparent POTUS ever. Found anything to support that yet?
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Presidents often seal some of their records..........Obama is the first to seal ALL OF HIS RECORDS.

What relevant records are sealed? He's provided his BC. He's provided the college's he graduated from (and there is evidence he went to them and graduated). His vote record while sitting in the Senate is open to all. Everything that he has said in front of the media is open for all to see (including some from long before he even ran for POTUS). What else do you want? That is relevent.
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Hawaii Won't Release Obama Birth Info - CBS News

Nobody has seen the original..........lets just take the corrupt ****cago slimeball politician's word for it......
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Badmutha said:
They were too busy demanding records from Republicans........too scared of being called a racist for questioning why ALL OF OBAMA'S RECORDS are off limits.
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Not all of his records are off limits. The ones you need to know are quite open...how many times must I say this?

Badmutha said:
What I find funny........is any rational person would have released their original long from BC the moment the controversy arose......just to make it go away.....if not rub it in the eye of the opposition.

........2 years later and were taking a Politicians word for it.
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Because there is no need to see the long form. He does have a right to privacy ya know.

Badmutha said:
Presidents often seal some of their records..........Obama is the first to seal ALL OF HIS RECORDS.
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*sigh* how many times must I say this before you stop saying this? ....NOT ALL OF HIS RECORDS WERE SEALED UP....JUST THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS KNOWING.

Badmutha said:
Hawaii Won't Release Obama Birth Info - CBS News

Nobody has seen the original..........lets just take the corrupt ****cago slimeball politician's word for it......
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First that is Hawaii's law. They cannot give it out unless they have Obama's permission to give it out. He has not given permission. What..you want them to break the law? Many other states have the same exact law.

Second no one needs to see the long form. Also no one has taking Obama's word for it. They HAVE seen his regular BC. It's plastered all over the media. Hell the people at Snopes even held it in thier own little hands. His regular BC is enough to validate him as an authentic American born in Hawaii. That BC is real and has been examined by many people. The fact that people are calling for the long form is because they personally have not held the regular BC in thier hands and don't want to accept that fact that it is real...not that most of them could even tell an original from a fake anyways....
 
Badmutha said:
So its Tyranny in Egypt........here its called Statism.....or Liberalism.
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The problem is the word "tyranny" has a specific meaning that is not fulfilled by Obama's presidency. If "tyranny" meant something completely different, you might have a point.

In the land of ACORN and The Paid Democrat Voter.........sure we can use our "free election" process.
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Ah Beck style vague accusations with no meat to them.

Please refer to: Nov, 2, 2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History........the rejection of Obama and Statism from sea to shining sea.
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It was not even the biggest "political ass whooping" in US history, let alone history in general. Facts are important.

He isnt a Tyrant because he is doing things I dont agree with..........he is a Tyrant because he is doing things that 70% of WE THE PEOPLE disagree with.

....From Cap & Tax.....to ObamaCare.....the Majority of Americans disagree with The Kenyan Tyrant's entire agenda.
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Again, you do not seem to know what the word "tyranny" means, nor how our political process works. Hint: we do not have a direct form of government, so what 70 % want(poll numbers by the way are much less conclusive than this on most issues) is irrelevant. If they are unhappy with how congress and the president do their job, they can remove him from office. That is not "tyranny", unless you are using the word to mean something other than what it does mean.
 
Hey, look at this, this is the looks of a false statement and I Say It Aint So Joe !!!!!!

Badmutha said:
The willfully ignorant are those that thought any of Obama's Big Government Solutions would actually work........

........considering they have all been tried and failed, 0-976, with a 0.0% success rate.

.This is the looks of a false statement posted for all to see and I say it ain't so Joe !!!
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Minnie T. Mouse said:
Hey, look at this, this is the looks of a false statement and I Say It Aint So Joe !!!!!!
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You understood what that post was talking about? Better than I then, I could not make heads or tails of it.
 
Btw, just to correct Badmutha's misinformation, the biggest political asswhopping in US history was when FDR defeated Landon 523-8 in 1936.
 
I would not vote for Obama in 2012. If a different Dem was nominated I could possibly vote for them, but not for Obama.
 
It would really depend on who the choice was and what the next 18 months brings.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Btw, just to correct Badmutha's misinformation, the biggest political asswhopping in US history was when FDR defeated Landon 523-8 in 1936.
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That was only one tiny bit of his misinformation in this thread.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Btw, just to correct Badmutha's misinformation, the biggest political asswhopping in US history was when FDR defeated Landon 523-8 in 1936.
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Maybe the biggest presidential ass whooping........but that was just one race.........Nov. 2, 2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History on the other hand.......took place on the national level....the state level.....and the municipal level......the utter rejection of Obama and everythigng Democrats stand for from sea to shining sea.

Republicans took Control of the House with 63 House Seats, 6 Senate seats, 10 Governorships, 680+ State legislative seats, and control of 19 more State legislatures..

God Bless Red America.......

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Study up on US history. To pick just one example: 1874, republicans lost 96 seats in the house. Sorry, but you are factually not even close to right.
 
Honestly, not a huge fan of Obama's the first time around, but I thought he would have been better than McCain. Hopefully the Republicans will put some one up that is half decent, but they may wait until 2016 because right now there isn't a whole lot of good choices.
 
the stock market is doing well, if the unemployment comes down, and the economy is on the uptick, obama is re-elected.
 
Badmutha said:
At this point.....

......over two years into Jimmy Carter's second term.......with Gitmo still open, with our troops still in Iraq and Afghanastan, 10% unemployment, 1 in 5 Americans unemployed/underemployed, 1 in 7 Americans living in Poverty, 1 in 7 Americans collecting foodstamps, 1 in 10 Americans facing foreclosure, The Largest Budget in US History, The Largest Budget Deficit in US History, The Largest National Debt in US History.......coming after The Largest Spending Bill in History, a subprime health care bill to nowhere, and The Kenyan Tyrant defying the Will of the American People on numerous occasions......

......do you plan on voting for Obama in 2012?
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Absolutely!! If there was no other reason, I would vote for him because of possible SCOTUS picks. There is a possibility that 5-4 votes can be reversed and that would be a wonderful thing.

BTW, all that misery you mentioned began under George W. Bush. And most of the debt was caused by Republican presidents beginning with President Reagan.
 
More than likely, I would lean toward no. However, I know very well I could change my mind.
 
Badmutha said:
Maybe the biggest presidential ass whooping........but that was just one race.........Nov. 2, 2010--The Largest Political Ass Whooping in History on the other hand.......took place on the national level....the state level.....and the municipal level......the utter rejection of Obama and everythigng Democrats stand for from sea to shining sea.

Republicans took Control of the House with 63 House Seats, 6 Senate seats, 10 Governorships, 680+ State legislative seats, and control of 19 more State legislatures..

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1994 went places shortly before it came crashing down again. 2004 was seen as a mandate, but shortly after Republicans could not take advantage of the situation without alienating portions of its base on vital legislation. 2006 was seen as a Democratic Party message as well, and you know what happened 4 years later.
 
The Republican Party of today doesn't support my political beliefs. Neither does the Democratic Party. One is far right, the other isn't left enough for my liking. The GOP would have to pick somebody like Jindal or Palin for me to want to vote for Obama. Please do?
 
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