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New Smoking Ban Good or Bad?

What of the New Ban.

  • Good

    Votes: 19 27.1%

  • Too far

    Votes: 49 70.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Total voters
    70
I love it. Drugs are bad for you. Drugs destroy lives. But an addictive substance that is tantamount to very slowly killing yourself, that's okay. I simply don't understand how cigarettes are legal, but marijuana is not. People are just ridiculous. I personally think any restrictions on poison is probably a good thing.
 
Temporal said:
No thanks. The smoker can move... to their home, or the street outside the park, or to another planet, or FOAD for all I care. No more whining about smokers rights. Just go away with your disgusting crap.
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Since when does being disgusting limit your rights? I guess you're one of those people that hate fat people and want to limit their rights.

Sorry, you don't have the right to blow toxic fumes in my face while I'm sitting on the same park bench as you. I support any law that takes away a smoker's right to smoke in proximity to me, even on the windiest day.
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You look ridiculous with all that eye liner running down your face. Wipe up that **** up when you wipe the tears off your face.

Non-smokers are the majority. If you want to smoke, YOU go where WE tell you that you can smoke.
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So we can tell blacks where to go? You know, with them being in the minority and all.
 
Henrin said:
Since when does being disgusting limit your rights? I guess you're one of those people that hate fat people and want to limit their rights.
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Frankly, yes. Do you know how much fat people are costing the average tax payer? I'm already paying for the unpaid health care costs while these slobs go to McDonalds on a daily basis to shovel crap down their gullets, and then hospitals are obliged to provide urgent care when they finally have heart attacks from clogged arteries. Americans bitch about socialized health care but they're already paying for it. I am tired of the public subsidizing the habits of others. They need to be cut loose. If fat people don't want to take responsibility for being fat, then they can just go die somewhere. I don't really care.

Same with smokers. I shouldn't have to inhale your crap because you have an addiction or move because you have an entitlement to smoke the crap. Take responsibility and do your drugs elsewhere. It's not that hard. Then when you get cancer, it shouldn't be my additional responsibility to pay for your stupid ass.

Henrin said:
So we can tell blacks where to go? You know, with them being in the minority and all.
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lol... are you for real?
 
Temporal said:
Frankly, yes. Do you know how much fat people are costing the average tax payer? I'm already paying for the unpaid health care costs while these slobs go to McDonalds on a daily basis to shovel crap down their gullets, and then hospitals are obliged to provide urgent care when they finally have heart attacks from clogged arteries. Americans bitch about socialized health care but they're already paying for it. I am tired of the public subsidizing the habits of others. They need to be cut loose. If fat people don't want to take responsibility for being fat, then they can just go die somewhere. I don't really care.

Same with smokers. I shouldn't have to inhale your crap because you have an addiction or move because you have an entitlement to smoke the crap. Take responsibility and do your drugs elsewhere. It's not that hard. Then when you get cancer, it shouldn't be my additional responsibility to pay for your stupid ass.
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Ever care to consider why you pay for others? Who did that? Enjoy.

Oh and nice contradiction in the illegal drug thread and this. "don't mess with my body" but then here is this. What is that about? lol.

lol... are you for real?
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Is it different? We told blacks to go elsewhere because they were less than us. How is your behavior towards smokers different? Because they have a habit? Is that a real difference or are you trying to tell yourself that.
 
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X Factor said:
Sooooo, just so I'm clear, you extoll the virtues of drug use, but want to see cigarettes banned?
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I was about to say the same thing. So Temporal by your logic Drug use should stay ban since the Majority of the population is anti-drug. Why should we have to pay for the Medical cost of drug addicts?
 
cpgrad08 said:
I was about to say the same thing. So Temporal by your logic...
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I think this may be wishful thinking on your part CP. I don't think the logic is strong with this one.
 
X Factor said:
Sooooo, just so I'm clear, you extoll the virtues of drug use, but want to see cigarettes banned?
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I extol drug use? Really? Where did I say that?

Furthermore, where did I say that people should be able to do drugs WHERE they please?

I see that failure to read and comprehend is a common problem on these forums.
 
Temporal said:
I extol drug use? Really? Where did I say that?

Furthermore, where did I say that people should be able to do drugs WHERE they please?

I see that failure to read and comprehend is a common problem on these forums.
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So you would restrict where they could do it but keep it legal? You realize they could easily just ban everywhere you could use it and still have it legal right?
 
Henrin said:
So you would restrict where they could do it but keep it legal? You realize they could easily just ban everywhere you could use it and still have it legal right?
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lol... I don't think you thought that one through.
 
Temporal said:
lol... I don't think you thought that one through.
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Why can't they just make it legal for you to possess and not partake? Any reason you have why that is unreasonable to exist?
 
Temporal said:
I extol drug use? Really? Where did I say that?
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Temporal said:
I agree with your main idea that drugs are enlightening. Most of the major art works and inventions of the past century were created by people who actively did drugs. There is no denying that they increase right brain activity and activate parts of the brain that normally remain dormant in sober people.

I have always believed 100% that the main reason why drugs are illegal is because they spur creative thinking. Addiction didn't exist on the scale it does today when international drug laws were formed, so it's not about health and safety. This is about power. Addiction exists because of lack of agency. People can't come forward when they are starting to spin out of control because they will be punished, so they spin deeper.

I should be able to put whatever I want in my body as part of my exploration of this life, and no one else has any say in that. Everything that has gone wrong in the world because of drugs is actually because of drug LAWS, not the drugs themselves.
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Furthermore, where did I say that people should be able to do drugs WHERE they please?
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Please, if it were up to you, people would be taking heroin breaks throughout the day. Oh but smoking cigarettes, now that would be banned.

I see that failure to read and comprehend is a common problem on these forums.
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And I see you have a short term memory and logic issue. Wonder why.
 
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Ed Gein said:
You must always see such measures for what they truly are. They are not about public health or safety, or littering, at the very core of this and all other policing of habits, is control of the people. You are too stupid, friendo, you need Big Brother to guide your life and keep you on the wagon like a good churl.
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You know - what's interesting about this is that both sides argue the same point.

Those who support smoking "rights" say "the government is trying to control us by saying we can't smoke."
and those who don't support smoking "rights" say "the tobacco companies are trying to control us by persuading us to smoke or accept it."
 
Addicts say the funniest things.
 
ludahai said:
If I have to inhale your poisonous emmissions from cancer sticks, my rights have been violated...
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Then don't drive a car or use electricity and all manufacturing must be shut down.

So no, it does not.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
You know - what's interesting about this is that both sides argue the same point.

Those who support smoking "rights" say "the government is trying to control us by saying we can't smoke."
and those who don't support smoking "rights" say "the tobacco companies are trying to control us by persuading us to smoke or accept it."
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The problem is I am an adult. I own my body and I or we are perfectly capable of deciding what we can put in our body.

It is the second hand smoke and butts that seem to be the real problem on this issue. Some smokers are inconsiderate assholes, and unfortunately all smokers are paying the price.
 
Blackdog said:
The problem is I am an adult. I own my body and I or we are perfectly capable of deciding what we can put in our body.

It is the second hand smoke and butts that seem to be the real problem on this issue. Some smokers are inconsiderate assholes, and unfortunately all smokers are paying the price.
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Oh My god! No - the government regulating ****! Holy crap - since when did this start happening!
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What are we going to do! :mrgreen:

Yeah well - I get carded when everyone in my family is sick and I have to buy cold medicine
And if I want to buy one for myself and one for my kids I'm told I can't buy one adult and one child medicine - I have to choose which med I'm going to purchase.

Why is that? It's because of drug users - meth cookers.

Yep - the filthy pricks always ruin it for everyone else - don't I know.

And when it comes to something like smoking - which I do from time to time - I really don't give a ****. . . if it bothers you that much just start dipping or chewing . Absolutely NO government regulation on when and where for those activities!
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Aunt Spiker said:
Oh My god! No - the government regulating ****! Holy crap - since when did this start happening!
:scared:
What are we going to do! :mrgreen:

Yeah well - I get carded when everyone in my family is sick and I have to buy cold medicine
And if I want to buy one for myself and one for my kids I'm told I can't buy one adult and one child medicine - I have to choose which med I'm going to purchase.

Why is that? It's because of drug users - meth cookers.

Yep - the filthy pricks always ruin it for everyone else - don't I know.

And when it comes to something like smoking - which I do from time to time - I really don't give a ****. . . if it bothers you that much just start dipping or chewing . Absolutely NO government regulation on when and where for those activities!
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I should have been clearer.

I smoke, I am also an adult. If I own my own person the government should have little say into what I can or can't put into my own body.

So some rude smokers are making it hard on the rest of us.

Sorry for the confusion.... and second hand smoke, lol.
 
Blackdog said:
I should have been clearer.

I smoke, I am also an adult. If I own my own person the government should have little say into what I can or can't put into my own body.

So some rude smokers are making it hard on the rest of us.

Sorry for the confusion.... and second hand smoke, lol.
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You were perfectly clear. :D

The government isn't telling you that *you can't be a tobacco addict* - they're just telling you "you can't smoke here."
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cpgrad08 said:
New York City Council bans smoking in parks, beaches, Times Square

Is the new ban in New York a good thing or is it going too far.
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Totalitarian edicts are always a "bad" thing, especially in a nation that was founded upon the principles of individual freedoms in the pursuit of happiness. The "collective" good seems like an idea that I have heard many times in the past....right before the STATE began dotting the landscape with shallow unmarked graves in the millions while supposedly in the pursuit of SOCIAL JUSTICE.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
You were perfectly clear. :D

The government isn't telling you that *you can't be a tobacco addict* - they're just telling you "you can't smoke here."
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Yep it sucks either way, hehehe.
 
X Factor said:
Please, if it were up to you, people would be taking heroin breaks throughout the day. Oh but smoking cigarettes, now that would be banned.

And I see you have a short term memory and logic issue. Wonder why.
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Now you're just being an inflammatory troll. Just because I think that drugs have creative uses does not mean that I myself partake, and I don't. You are really trying to push the idea that I'm a drug user as part of your agenda to discredit my character, but it won't work because your entire premise is based on an assumption.

Now, are you going to stop personally attacking me and get back to the actual debate, or do I have to report you to the mods?
 
Henrin said:
Why can't they just make it legal for you to possess and not partake? Any reason you have why that is unreasonable to exist?
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Every time I breath second hand smoke, I am partaking whether I like it or not. Just because you have a right to poison your body does not mean you get to do it where you want or expose others. Sorry that's so hard for you to grasp.
 
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