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Is This Going Too Far?

Are These Additional Restrictions on Abortion Funding Going Too Far?


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Yes, I favor the legalization of abortion, I do not want to see it illegal.
The fact you want it to be legal makes you pro-abortion.It doesn't matter if you plan on never having one.


But I will not have one myself(unless my life is in danger), nor will I personally suggest abortion.

Many people are pro-gay marriage but would not engage in same sex relations or have sex with someone of the same sex,not have gay sex and gay marriage it does not change the fact that they are pro-gay marriage. Many people are pro-2nd amendment but would not buy a firearm, but its still does not change the fact they are pro-2nd amendment.

I am pro-choice, but not pro-abortion.

You are pro-abortion.See definition.Pro-choice and pro-abortion are synonymous.

Proabortion | Define Proabortion at Dictionary.com
pro·abor·tion definition
Pronunciation: /(ˈ)prō-ə-ˈbȯr-shən/
Function: adj
: favoring the legalization of abortion
 
Yes, I favor the legalization of abortion, I do not want to see it illegal. But I will not have one myself(unless my life is in danger), nor will I personally suggest abortion. I am pro-choice, but not pro-abortion.

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Note the bold.

Abortionist is someone who supports legalized abortion.As for a woman seeking to kill her child, bitch i the nicest thing I can call her.
 
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I am most certainly not pro-abortion. I support the legalization of abortion because I can see that it is better to have it legal than to have it illegal, not because I think abortion is good. There is a vast difference, and no one else can say BS to how I identify myself.
 
I think the federal government should only pay for abortions in cases where the mother's life is at risk. Only under those conditions do I see it as a necessary medical procedure. Most others will just be a form of post conception contraception.
 
I am most certainly not pro-abortion. I support the legalization of abortion because I can see that it is better to have it legal than to have it illegal, not because I think abortion is good. There is a vast difference, and no one else can say BS to how I identify myself.

Again pro-abortion is someone who supports legalized abortion,there is no way around that. Are you trying to argue that the dictionary is wrong? Its like you are trying to argue that the sun is not hot or that most McDonalds is not unhealthy. Why are you so ashamed of being pro-abortion? Obviously abortion does not have that much of a stigma for you to support legalized abortion. So there is no reason for you to be ashamed of being pro-abortion.
 
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You would be surprised by the number of people who consider the morning after pill to be abortion (or IUDs or birth control pills of any type).

Even pro-lifers like myself would be a lot more ok with the morning after pill than a real abortion performed at a later date.
 
To correct a misconception. The morning after pill does not result in the death of a fertilized embryo. It prevents fertilization and implantation.
 
Again pro-abortion is someone who supports legalized abortion,there is no way around that. Are you trying to argue that the dictionary is wrong? Its like you are trying to argue that the sun is not hot or that most McDonalds is not unhealthy. Why are you so ashamed of being pro-abortion? Obviously abortion does not have that much of a stigma for you to support legalized abortion.

I'm saying my views are more complicated than a 3 word dictionary definition.
 
I'm saying my views are more complicated than a 3 word dictionary definition.

But that just isn't fair. How dare you have nuanced political views!
 
But that just isn't fair. How dare you have nuanced political views!

Same could be said of labels such as "pro-gun" and "anti-gun" or "pro-war" and "anti-war." Pro-choice means the support for the legalization of abortion. Pro-abortion, to me, rather means that one thinks abortion is a good thing and should be done.
 
I'm saying my views are more complicated than a 3 word dictionary definition.

Not everybody who is pro-marriage wants to engage in a same sex relationship. Not everybody who is pro-2nd amendment wants to run out and buy a gun. Not everybody who has a gun is pro-2nd amendment. Not everybody who is anti-war wants our troops to die in Iraq. Not everybody who is pro-war thinks we should just invade any and every country.
 
House abortion bill redefines rape, incest exceptions - Yahoo! News
We do have a problem with "going too far " with many things.
IMO, not one red cent to fund abortions should be taken from OUR treasury..
Oddly, despite being pro-abortion rights, I do not have a problem with the concept of federal funds not being allowed to pay for abortions except under limited circumstances, which is the case now. This though seems to be taking things to a new level.

So what do you think? Is this taking things too far, or are these proposed new restrictions reasonable?

Agree, we do have this "sickness" of "going too far".
Not one red cent should be used to fund abortions from OUR treasury.
 
Not everybody who is pro-marriage wants to engage in a same sex relationship. Not everybody who is pro-2nd amendment wants to run out and buy a gun. Not everybody who has a gun is pro-2nd amendment. Not everybody who is anti-war wants our troops to die in Iraq. Not everybody who is pro-war thinks we should just invade any and every country.

It's not my fault you fail to see the nuance between pro-choice(wanting abortion to stay legal so that women can have the choice to have the procedure), and pro-abortion(thinking that abortion is a good thing).
 
Same could be said of labels such as "pro-gun" and "anti-gun" or "pro-war" and "anti-war." Pro-choice means the support for the legalization of abortion. Pro-abortion, to me, rather means that one thinks abortion is a good thing and should be done.
However that is not the definition of pro-abortion.
 
Why should my money be use to condemn an innocent child to death?

Why should my money be used to condemn innocent children to death over oil in the Middle East?
 
It's not my fault you fail to see the nuance between pro-choice(wanting abortion to stay legal so that women can have the choice to have the procedure), and pro-abortion(thinking that abortion is a good thing).

Trying to change definitions does not change the fact you are pro-abortion.
 
It's not my fault you fail to see the nuance between pro-choice(wanting abortion to stay legal so that women can have the choice to have the procedure), and pro-abortion(thinking that abortion is a good thing).

When you can't manage to successfully argue against some one's points, you give them a nasty label and hope people will think they are bad.
 
Trying to change definitions does not change the fact you are pro-abortion.

Trying to label some one instead of debating their points does not make you a good debater. The opposite in fact.
 
When you can't manage to successfully argue against some one's points, you give them a nasty label and hope people will think they are bad.

What nasty lable? Are you trying to argue that Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary and dictionary.com are wrong? Why do you people oppose being called pro-aboriton when you support legalized abortion?
 
What nasty lable? Are you trying to argue that Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary and dictionary.com are wrong? Why do you people oppose being called pro-aboriton when you support legalized abortion?

Why do "pro-life" people prefer that label to "anti-abortion rights"?
 
However that is not the definition of pro-abortion.

We're all just arguing over inane semantics at this point. Your Star has made her position quite clear, and let's talk about something substantive rather than semantic.
 
Trying to label some one instead of debating their points does not make you a good debater. The opposite in fact.

Part of debate is presenting facts. Going "Oh I do not like this definition so I am just going to make up my own" is not a good debate tactic.
 
Trying to change definitions does not change the fact you are pro-abortion.

It's not my fault that you can't understand what I am saying to you is that I don't personally support abortion, and that your definition doesn't trump my personal beliefs.
 
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Part of debate is presenting facts. Going "Oh I do not like this definition so I am just going to make up my own" is not a good debate tactic.

That is not what she is doing. She is saying "this definition does not precisely represent my beliefs so I am going to explain them properly". You have yet to in any way actually address her position, you have simply tried to label her and evade debating her by bringing in irrelevant things,
 
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