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Should prostitution be legalized?

legalize

  • legalize

    Votes: 36 80.0%

  • illegalize

    Votes: 5 11.1%

  • other

    Votes: 4 8.9%
  • Total voters
    45
Krhazy said:
Legalized but regulated, yes.
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This was regulated too. At just what point will people learn government bureaucrats typically suck at their jobs?

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Jetboogieman said:
Good.
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I'm so glad we could agree on something. :roll:

To be sold or bought, you have to be owned. And if you're a legal sex worker, safe from the likes of Pimps and illegal brothels. You're an entrepreneur :)
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Women, and their children, are regularly abused by their boyfriends/girlfriends. Making prostitution legal won't make you safe from some men/women.


Please name said harmful effects.
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You are either naive or lack imagination. I cannot fix/address either from here. I suggest you google the effects of promiscuity and prostition on people.


If a hooker is an illegal street hooker, even with a pimp, a dude can demand she have sex with him without a condom. And more times then not, they'll do it for fear of being raped.
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I generally avoid hypothetical situations but I'm thinking rape will always be a possiblity when one is exposed to risk, like selling your body for instance.


Regulated, safe and legal means the sex worker can demand a condom, and therefore STD's can be minimized, even with condoms sometimes it happens, but both participants are consenting.
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Being regulated doesn't mean you have a bureaucrat, social worker, police officer, or your lawyer right there on the scene. It means you are; alone with a stranger, without your clothes on, and at risk of any number of possible outcomes. Such a situation could never be "safe."


On a case by case basis. A hooker who hurts themselves is highly likely to have been forced into it.



What I know from my research is that in poor neighbourhoods, pimps specifically target runaways and desperate teenagers for this business. Force them into it, and drug use and abuse often follows.

That does not speak to all prostitutes.
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Your research? What research? {sigh} For what it's worth even legalizing prostitution doesn't mean we would legalize it for teens or children. There will always be those who want them, there will always be those who will sell them. Legitimizing prostitution won't change that.




The question is, should the law exist in the first place?
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No.

Is our own morality getting in the way of doing whats right?
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What morality? I just believe it's harmful for women individually, a waste of a valuable resource, women and bad if you want a functional society.


For many woman, the fact that prostitution remains illegal is a life sentence, for doing what WE percieve to be wrong.
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I find this assertion highly questionable. Women aren't being forced into prostitution because I'm not buying their bodies on the street corner. In point of fact, I'm actively discouraging this behavior. Worse, I'm encouraging small females to succeed in educational endeavours in order to be an asset to society. A real asset, their minds, not their bodies.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
To be sold or bought, you have to be owned. And if you're a legal sex worker, safe from the likes of Pimps and illegal brothels. You're an entrepreneur :)
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No you're not. You can still be abused and mistreated at work just like any worker can, and even illegal prostitution, girls can work for themselves on the streets, not just for a pimp.

Please name said harmful effects.
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increased spread of STDs, for one.

If a hooker is an illegal street hooker, even with a pimp, a dude can demand she have sex with him without a condom. And more times then not, they'll do it for fear of being raped.
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And that guy that is choosing to rape women, will suddenly turn into a model citizen when prostitution is legal? No, if he is a rapist, then he will be a rapist whether prostitution is legal or not.

Regulated, safe and legal means the sex worker can demand a condom, and therefore STD's can be minimized, even with condoms sometimes it happens, but both participants are consenting.
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They can demand a condom anyway.

What I know from my research is that in poor neighbourhoods, pimps specifically target runaways and desperate teenagers for this business. Force them into it, and drug use and abuse often follows.
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It is more of "tricked" into it, then once they are in, they are too scared to get out and don't know what to do.


The question is, should the law exist in the first place?

Is our own morality getting in the way of doing whats right?
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Who is to say what is right? Why is one person's "right" more important then another's? Our Morality cannot really get in the way of what is right, because our morality (on an individual level) is what tells us what is right.

For many woman, the fact that prostitution remains illegal is a life sentence, for doing what WE percieve to be wrong.
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Not really, many get arrested, don't care, and go right back to work.
 
Dutch said:
This was regulated too. At just what point will people learn government bureaucrats typically suck at their jobs?

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Is it the regulators or the ones getting regulated that suck at their jobs?
 
Dutch said:
In this case both. That doesn't change the fact federal regulation fails us, often.
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Nearly everything fails, often. The vast majority of business ventures fail in the first few years. That doesn't mean don't do it, it just means find a better way to do it.
 
Jetboogieman said:
You know, if you made murder legal, you'd get rid of a lot of serial killers that way who'd ask the question... "Where's the fun now" :2razz:
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I would think that the thrill would be in taking another human life not ooh the cops ain't caught me yet regarding serial killers. Although I could be wrong and they get the same thrill a kleptomaniac gets when he gets away with shoplifting.
 
Dutch said:
This was regulated too. At just what point will people learn government bureaucrats typically suck at their jobs?

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Private enterprise is no better, IMO, in fact worse.... The Deepwater Horizon people were greedy and ignored sane and sensible rules....Much the same as the banks......and GM.......
All can do things better, its a matter of attitude.
The French regulate their prositution....how well, I know not, but in many ways they are far more advanced than we are.
 
Dutch said:
In this case both. That doesn't change the fact federal regulation fails us, often.
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Do you suggest we spend more money to have more regulators so they could do a better job regulating?
 
X Factor said:
No, legitimizing those things, and making them more readily available are not better for society.
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Then you are going to have the Larry Craigs of the world in airport restrooms bugging everyone for a little game of footsie under the stalls.

Please,, please for Larry's sake.
 
spud_meister said:
Yes, but it should be regulated and restricted to licensed brothels, for health and safety reasons.
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agreed-don't want any distempered tuna
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
The existence of prostitution assures that women-- and men, and children-- will be victimized. Society's response should be to ensure that there is as little prostitution as possible.
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the existence of government assures that women, men and children will be victimized. Free citizens' response should be that there is as little government as absolutely necessary
 
TurtleDude said:
the existence of government assures that women, men and children will be victimized. Free citizens' response should be that there is as little government as absolutely necessary
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Like Somalia?
 
Dutch said:
Two points. Sex does sell. However, should people be bought and sold, even if it's their own bodies? Also, why do so many people want to pretend that legalizing certain behaviors, and therefore legitimizing and therefore encouraging certain behaviors somehow saves the participants from the harmful effects of their actions? Just why is that? Frequent tests won't save prostitutes from the getting std's. Legitimizing prostitution won't ameliorate the damage they do to themselves. Why encourage this behavior?

Of course people will continue to break the law. That doesn't mean the law shouldn't exist in the first place. There was a time in our history when women who weren't married had very few options to support themselves. One was prostitution. It was a dead end lifestyle then, it is now, and legalizing it won't change that.
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Everything you mention is just as much of a risk for sluts as it is for hookers. Are you going to ban sleeping around? Why do you insist on "protecting" people from their own choices?
 
Prostitiution itself is not wrong. Some women or men may choose it as means to make alot of money, a voluntary action that does not harm the people involved. Others are forced into it by criminal organizations, the people who force others into prostitution should be subject prosecution.

To me exploitation has to come from a lack of choice (real or perceived). Exploitation should be made illegal, but not prostitution that people engage in freely
 
The benefits of legalizing it outweigh the unbenefits.
 
Dutch said:
However, you don't have to legalized and therefore legitimize something that is so clearly harmful to the participants.
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Then why don't we ban cigarettes, alcohol and fast food too? This is the problem with social conservatism. Its inconsistent, hypocritical and "picky-choosy". If you're going to ban things that are bad for people, you have to ban them all. If you are going to permit somethings, then in all fairness, you must permit them all. The hardworking, tax payer who has trouble with the ladies and likes to pay for some "company" every now and then doesn't understand why his vice is illegal but someone else can smoke 10 packs of cigarettes and drink a bottle of whiskey every single day without any legal repercussions. There's no logic in that.

And in all seriousness, which is worse for you? Getting some random booty from time to time (if you use protection) or smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol everyday?
 
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