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Who suggested this post was about you? Are you feeling singled out?
Who said it has to be about me before I can take exception?
Who suggested this post was about you? Are you feeling singled out?
Who said it has to be about me before I can take exception?
WHY are you taking exception?
The jews call themselves jews don't they? They are part of the jewish community aren't they?
Because what Gardener said was wrong. I thought that much was obvious.
I think the term can never be offensive, but rather it is entirely based on something else communicated at the same time. If someone says "Jew" like that's a bad thing it is really the fact someone is saying it like it is a bad thing as opposed to the term itself being used. It is not like calling someone a fishhead or a porch monkey, words whose sole meanings are pejorative.
I truly don't understand what Gardener said that was wrong. Could you elaborate?Because what Gardener said was wrong. I thought that much was obvious.
I truly don't understand what Gardener said that was wrong. Could you elaborate?
Look -- I can't be antisemitic. I agree with Norm Finklestein that Jews are conniving, manipulating deceitful creatures who get others to do their bidding, but he's a Jew, so it's all o.k.
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Nowhere has such a claim even remotely been made. Norman Finklestein only claims that members of the Jewish establishment have abused the memory of the Holocaust for political and financial gain.
when did finklestein say that?Look -- I can't be antisemitic. I agree with Norm Finklestein that Jews are conniving, manipulating deceitful creatures who get others to do their bidding, but he's a Jew, so it's all o.k.
when did finklestein say that?
Well, that wasn't so much a statement of fact as it was a question. I'm not familiar with Finkelstein, but I do believe it's possible to be obviously anti Semitic (or anti anything, really) and yet never expressly say it. Anyway, I'll have to read up on Mr. Finkelstein, and see what he's about.Dont you go bringing facts into this!
when did finklestein say that?
Nowhere has such a claim even remotely been made. Norman Finklestein only claims that members of the Jewish establishment have abused the memory of the Holocaust for political and financial gain.
I've never heard my brother in law say "I am a Jew" - he says "I'm Jewish" . . he says it's because he's not Kosher :2razz:
Two plus two doesn't even remotely equal 4, Demon.
Two plus two only equals half of 8.
He writes entire books towards that end, and is an unabashed supporter of the terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah, to boot.
You don't consider abusing the murders of millions of people for personal gain to be conniving, manipulating, and deceitful?
Are you saying I am saying the same thing or are yo