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Uniforms in public schools...

Which of these statements do you agree with most?

  • Uniforms should be federally mandated in all public schools.

    Votes: 12 21.8%

  • No public school students should have to wear uniforms.

    Votes: 15 27.3%

  • Uniforms should only be used in public schools with lots of discipline problems.

    Votes: 4 7.3%

  • Somethin' else.

    Votes: 24 43.6%
  • Total voters
    55
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Bodhisattva said:
Individuality is removed from children when they can't wear what they want to school? Seriously? You think that?

Terrible tragedy, huh? See, hearing this kinda makes me dismiss your whole opinion since, after working at schools that have dress codes and seeing nothing wrong with them in the slightest and at one, hearing kids say that they wished that they had better uniforms than the ones that they had, well... terrible tragedy just comes across as a pathetic appeal to emotion.
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It's an appeal to emotion. There's nothing pathetic about it.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
Try a complete sentence on me.
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"you completely missed the point of that one," is in fact a complete sentence. If the only thing you can go after is grammar, you might want to work on your argument a little.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
It's an appeal to emotion. There's nothing pathetic about it.
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Attempting to use it as a valid form of debate, to me, is pathetic. So yes, it is pathetic. Wanna keep burying yourself or wanna try something else?
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Bodhisattva said:
Attempting to use it as a valid form of debate, to me, is pathetic. So yes, it is pathetic. Wanna keep burying yourself or wanna try something else?
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I worked hard during my 9-12 grades to get our school's dress code abolished. I was a student council member with all honors classes. We didn't even have uniforms.

Look at the adults who wear a uniform on the job. Every time that uniform serves a purpose. What purpose is served by uniforming children?
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
See; this doesn't make sense either.
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It's not my fault you can't follow the flow of conversation. :shrug: Guess honors classes aren't all that they used to be.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Kelzie said:
It's not my fault you can't follow the flow of conversation. :shrug: Guess honors classes aren't all that they used to be.
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I guess I need to learn how to talk in tongues.

read this slowly:
Kelzie said:
The tragedy is those that viewing dressing as an individual as an achievement.
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read at any speed:
Kelzie said:
There is when that's all you've got.
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Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
I guess I need to learn how to talk in tongues.
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Since you're apparently unclear on the requirements for a complete sentence, I'm going to take that as a compliment.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
I worked hard during my 9-12 grades to get our school's dress code abolished. I was a student council member with all honors classes. We didn't even have uniforms.

Look at the adults who wear a uniform on the job. Every time that uniform serves a purpose. What purpose is served by uniforming children?
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It was pathetic. Good, you are trying something else.

Your academic achievement is irrelevant just as is the fact that I was all honours and liked our dress code at school.

It serves a great purpose for students to wear uniforms at school. The purpose that it serves with students is that they are dressed better and that offensive and or distracting items, brands, colors, slogans and pictures are kept out of the learning environment. Students are at school to learn. They can express themselves through art, writing, song, poem and speech all day long. They are not being repressed as individuals like you assert. If anything, they are being challenged to express themselves in differing methods, thus expanding who they are. They can and do wear what they like the rest of the time, if the parent allows it.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Kelzie said:
Since you're apparently unclear on the requirements for a complete sentence, I'm going to take that as a compliment.
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That's fine with me :)
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Kelzie said:
It's not my fault you can't follow the flow of conversation. :shrug: Guess honors classes aren't all that they used to be.
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Instead of reading:

Originally Posted by Kelzie: The tragedy is those that viewing dressing as an individual as an achievement.

as...

Originally Posted by Kelzie: The tragedy is those that: view dressing as an individual as an achievement.

He gets all hung up about perfect syntax and grammar on a board where people type fast and move on.

Originally Posted by Kelzie
It's not my fault you can't follow the flow of conversation. Guess honors classes aren't all that they used to be.
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Indeed...
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
I worked hard during my 9-12 grades to get our school's dress code abolished. I was a student council member with all honors classes. We didn't even have uniforms.

Look at the adults who wear a uniform on the job. Every time that uniform serves a purpose. What purpose is served by uniforming children?
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Discipline and focus.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Bodhisattva said:
Hahaa... like this one a couple of posts up:

"Not hardly."

Really now, playing that little game is so juvenile. Is plug your ears up next on the game list?
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Read this one slowly Mickster...

"Not hardly."
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Bodhisattva said:
It was pathetic. Good, you are trying something else.

Your academic achievement is irrelevant just as is the fact that I was all honours and liked our dress code at school.

It serves a great purpose for students to wear uniforms at school. The purpose that it serves with students is that they are dressed better and that offensive and or distracting items, brands, colors, slogans and pictures are kept out of the learning environment. Students are at school to learn. They can express themselves through art, writing, song, poem and speech all day long. They are not being repressed as individuals like you assert. If anything, they are being challenged to express themselves in differing methods, thus expanding who they are. They can and do wear what they like the rest of the time, if the parent allows it.
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Wouldn't it be easier and less expensive to just ban ''offensive and or distracting items, brands, colors, slogans and pictures"?

What do you tell the parents that don't want their son to be dressed like a dork?
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
What purpose is served by uniforming children?
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No more gang signs, clothes, colors, etc.
No more games of "how much flesh can I show before they bust me."
No more "my brand is better than yours, so I'm better than you."
No more focus on clothes, so they can focus on learning instead.

Yes, I'm aware that the above aren't complete sentences. Tough.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

American said:
Discipline and focus.
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As I recall, discipline and focus are required of all students. Clothing doesn't take away, or add to that at all.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Dittohead not! said:
No more gang signs, clothes, colors, etc.
No more games of "how much flesh can I show before they bust me."
No more "my brand is better than yours, so I'm better than you."
No more focus on clothes, so they can focus on learning instead.

Yes, I'm aware that the above aren't complete sentences. Tough.
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Plus reduction in tardiness, discipling problems, sexual assault. You know. Little things.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
Wouldn't it be easier and less expensive to just ban ''offensive and or distracting items, brands, colors, slogans and pictures"?

What do you tell the parents that don't want their son to be dressed like a dork?
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No, that is not easier. Students attempt to "smuggle" these items under jackets and ****s and such and with a uniform it is obviously and immediately known if they are dressed appropriately or not. It is also not less expensive, as students by a couple pairs of shorts/skirts and shirts for a year or two at a bulk and consequently discounted price as opposed to buying may different "outfits" at generally a more expensive retail store price. Lastly, I have never once witnessed first-hand nor heard of second-hand any parent that complained about a uniform, and certainly not for anything as stupid and juvenile as "looking like a dork". Parents and adults like how the uniforms look and how the kids are dressed better than they would, in general, with their own clothes. Next?
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
As I recall, discipline and focus are required of all students. Clothing doesn't take away, or add to that at all.
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It does for the reasons that I have already outlined to you, he was just being concise since we all understand what is being disciplined and why they need focus.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Kelzie said:
Plus reduction in tardiness, discipling problems, sexual assault. You know. Little things.
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As well as members of the community calling in and informing the school or police that some kids dressed in our uniforms just committed some offense...
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Kelzie said:
Plus reduction in tardiness, discipling problems, sexual assault. You know. Little things.
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I, along with everyone else, would appreciate reduction in all of those things.

The problem is that gang-bangers will still use signs, handshakes, and texts to do what they do, uniforms, or not.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Bodhisattva said:
As well as members of the community calling in and informing the school or police that some kids dressed in our uniforms just committed some offense...
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Ooo, I like that one. It's like the military.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Mickey Shane said:
I, along with everyone else, would appreciate reduction in all of those things.

The problem is that gang-bangers will still use signs, handshakes, and texts to do what they do, uniforms, or not.
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Possibly. I have some wonderful case studies though that suggest everything I listed is quite dramatically improved by making kids wear uniforms. Maybe gang-bangers need baggy jeans to act thug.
 
Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

Bodhisattva said:
No, that is not easier. Students attempt to "smuggle" these items under jackets and ****s and such and with a uniform it is obviously and immediately known if they are dressed appropriately or not. It is also not less expensive, as students by a couple pairs of shorts/skirts and shirts for a year or two at a bulk and consequently discounted price as opposed to buying may different "outfits" at generally a more expensive retail store price. Lastly, I have never once witnessed first-hand nor heard of second-hand any parent that complained about a uniform, and certainly not for anything as stupid and juvenile as "looking like a dork". Parents and adults like how the uniforms look and how the kids are dressed better than they would, in general, with their own clothes. Next?
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We do things a little differently here in the US. Some of our parents might oppose uniforms.
 
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