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2nd amendment rights.

Are restrictions on the purchase/sale of firearms constitutional?


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Something you completely fail to realize, I suppose, is that there's about 80 million former military persons mixed in with the "civilians" you're talking about. It won't be an unorganized armed mob for long.

To say nothing for various national guard units, who's chain of command stops at the Governor, not the President. And then you would have dissension among the regular military ranks as well, just like in the civil war.
 
The Second Amendment is an awkward premise because the institution to which it refers no longer exists.

Interestingly, before the Equal Rights Amendment, it would have been constitutional for a state to outlaw the manufacture, sale, and possession of firearms.

the ERA? was never ratified. do you mean the 14th amendment which only recently incorporated the second (McDonald)? most state constitutions would have prevented such nonsense. Illinois was one of the few that didn't and several cities did that with handguns. it was a criminal workplace safety statute
 
Sure...name the book and give me a page number. Tomorrow I'll get the book and post a pic of that book stating such. Seriously.



That's not what you said. You're backpedaling. Book name and page number.

Operation Snakebite is one, from a journalist in Helmand Province. A senior US official is quoted saying that special forces teams (both US and UK) regularly, when targetting a Taliban leader, would get off the Chinook, and en route to the target, shoot any males aged 18-40.
 
To say nothing for various national guard units, who's chain of command stops at the Governor, not the President. And then you would have dissension among the regular military ranks as well, just like in the civil war.

And to arm those men would be acceptable, even intelligent.

But that's not what's happening. As it stands, anyone with a license in some states, or just plain anyone in other states, can get their hands on one.
 
the ERA? was never ratified. do you mean the 14th amendment which only recently incorporated the second (McDonald)? most state constitutions would have prevented such nonsense. Illinois was one of the few that didn't and several cities did that with handguns. it was a criminal workplace safety statute

Yeah, the 14th Amendment. Corrected and summarily deleted in an edit for its lack of importance.
 
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Operation Snakebite is one, from a journalist in Helmand Province. A senior US official is quoted saying that special forces teams (both US and UK) regularly, when targetting a Taliban leader, would get off the Chinook, and en route to the target, shoot any males aged 18-40.

Page number please.

Let's see if you can google more than a book name this time.
 
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And to arm those men would be acceptable, even intelligent.

But that's not what's happening. As it stands, anyone with a license in some states, or just plain anyone in other states, can get their hands on one.

Oh no, we can't discriminate. If I can have X because I'm in the military then therefore Joe Blow across the street who is not in the military must also have equal access to X.
 
Page number please.

Let's see if you can google more than a book name this time.

Alright, let me go get it.

Edit incoming.

Right, found it.

It is, in the paper-back edition, page 140, chapter 17, "the Manhunt", and it is from a senior US official from US Central Command.

At any rate, it's also a fantastic book, so I recommend it to you for more reasons than proving I'm right. XD
 
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And to arm those men would be acceptable, even intelligent.

But that's not what's happening. As it stands, anyone with a license in some states, or just plain anyone in other states, can get their hands on one.


So? This is America. That's how we roll. :mrgreen:
 
Oh good, you have it, so you can take your phone and post a pic yourself. Very nice.

Believe me when I say I've no idea how to do that. But really, if you did mean it, you ought to check it out -- anyone interested in the Afghan War will like it.

By the way, I edited my post with page number and source.
 
Alright, let me go get it.

Edit incoming.

Right, found it.

It is, in the paper-back edition, page 140, chapter 17, "the Manhunt", and it is from a senior US official from US Central Command.

At any rate, it's also a fantastic book, so I recommend it to you for more reasons than proving I'm right. XD

Post a pic or you don't have it.

BTW, no, I'm not reading the book.
 
Believe me when I say I've no idea how to do that. But really, if you did mean it, you ought to check it out -- anyone interested in the Afghan War will like it.

By the way, I edited my post with page number and source.

....you take a picture of the page with your phone, send it to a website you can store pics on or to your desk-top, upload it to you DP album, post it here. It's easier than I make it sound.
 
Post a pic or you don't have it.

BTW, no, I'm not reading the book.

I'm not going to post a bloody pic, I've no idea how. I can quote the line, though:

"They always say afterwards that the dead were enemy, or they went for the gun. But the reality is every young man ends up dead.... The routine is something like this: Go to the gym, pump some iron, jump into a helicopter in the dark, jump out and kill all males of fighting age, and then go back, get a bit of kip, and then back to the gym, pump some iron."
 
I'm not going to post a bloody pic, I've no idea how. I can quote the line, though:

"They always say afterwards that the dead were enemy, or they went for the gun. But the reality is every young man ends up dead.... The routine is something like this: Go to the gym, pump some iron, jump into a helicopter in the dark, jump out and kill all males of fighting age, and then go back, get a bit of kip, and then back to the gym, pump some iron."

I don't mean to be rude or forward, but if you are in Philadelphia for a few days then get off the stupid computer and experience the city and the people. Enjoy.
 
I don't mean to be rude or forward, but if you are in Philadelphia for a few days then get off the stupid computer and experience the city and the people. Enjoy.

It's 23:45 here and I've just had a long day of travel. I was in Paris, and I was going to go to Heathrow to get to Philadelphia, but a blizzard hit, and I re-routed to Dublin.. I was a nightmare. I'm tired, not up to sightseeing tonight.

Cheers, though.
 
I'm not going to post a bloody pic, I've no idea how. I can quote the line, though:

"They always say afterwards that the dead were enemy, or they went for the gun. But the reality is every young man ends up dead.... The routine is something like this: Go to the gym, pump some iron, jump into a helicopter in the dark, jump out and kill all males of fighting age, and then go back, get a bit of kip, and then back to the gym, pump some iron."

I like how you leave out who's saying that and in what context :lol:
 
Senior US official "with special forces background" from US Central Command, speaking on condition of anonymity.

= "source can not be verified", which means it means squat in the online setting; it's what reporters say when they want to make a bull**** sensational story and get away with it. I'm a protestant, which means I accept no text without authentication ;)

Care to make a claim you can actually back up?
 
= "source can not be verified", which means it means squat in the online setting; it's what reporters say when they want to make a bull**** sensational story and get away with it. I'm a protestant, which means I accept no text without authentication ;)

Care to make a claim you can actually back up?

Are you bloody stupid? You want me to find some senior US official standing up, in full view of the military, government and media, and blatantly saying these things people are uneasy about hearing?

That's never going to happen -- he'd be sacked and disgraced in an instant. The only way ****e like this ever comes out is through anonymous reports -- no reputable person will destroy their career and life to do so.

And if you think that means it's a lie, if you can't accept any text without authentication, then pray tell, show me proof of God. Show me proof of the ancient civilisations of the Fertile Crescent. Show me proof that the Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. Show me proof that the US landed on the moon. You believe all of these things, irrefutably, and yet you know not what little evidence most of them can claim.

So, essentially, you're fine believing bull****e like the Bible with no evidence to back its claims, but you balk and groan at the idea that American troops in the Middle East could commit atrocities, on the basis of lack of evidence?

I don't even know how to deal with people like you.
 
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