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I want Palin on the 2012 Republican Ticket!

Do you want Palin on the 2012 Repbulican Presidential Ticket?


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you didn't just make a generalization

how much are you willing to bet that Palin will be the nominee?

I have a k that says she won't be. You want to make a bet. You appear to be a gentleman of honor. Your word is good enough for me

I would say that Palin is the odds on favorite at this point to get the GOP nod.
 
I would say that Palin is the odds on favorite at this point to get the GOP nod.

well knowing lots of high ranking Republicans including the newest senator (elect) from Ohio as well as 4 of the 5 founders of the Federalist Society and knowing that none of them see Palin as a viable contender in 2012, I would argue you are wrong.

she is unelectable and those who run the party know that. she has been demonized by the press and was unable to overcome the picture they painted of her
 
I read a lot of news - a lot.
I don't watch any 24/7 news (Fox, Msnbc, Cnn)

How is she popular? To whom? Where? Does anyone actually see her on tv at all anymore? I haven't seen her in quite some time.
The only time I see her discussed is on this forum :shrug:

Thus leaving me to believe that only people who watch any 24/7 news - or come online to forums - care.

And you know what that tells me about everyone? Everyone's NOT paying attention to REAL news.

Now - all a Republican would have to do to rebuke a Palin/Obama run for office is to merely enter the ticket.

If the Reps had Palin and Someone Else and the Dems only have Obama - then the Palin would be the foil to the Someone Else and would make Someone Else look oooh so appealing.

It's psychology - proven to work time and time again:
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_ariely_asks_are_we_in_control_of_our_own_decisions.html
 
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well knowing lots of high ranking Republicans including the newest senator (elect) from Ohio as well as 4 of the 5 founders of the Federalist Society and knowing that none of them see Palin as a viable contender in 2012, I would argue you are wrong.

she is unelectable and those who run the party know that. she has been demonized by the press and was unable to overcome the picture they painted of her

I disagree. Palin is extremely popular among the Republican party base. I think she is probably the most popular of all the front runners. The nod is hers if she wants it. The question is whether she wants it.
 
God I hope she doesn't run. Not for political reasons, I just don't want to be forced to read anything about her.
 
I'll be upfront and say I use to love her - I use to be a Republican and I was thrilled when she came onto the scene.
Now I'm not even a Republican and I can't stand her (gee- how things change)

so putting aside my feelings - looking at the basics:

She was brought into the race PURELY because of her connection to the oil-companies and how she dealt with them.
That was IT.

Remember - we were at the height of our ginormous gas-prices. Gas for me was $4.25/gallon - "Drill baby Drill' was the mantra. (remember that?)

She was not brought in because she would have been a stellar leader for the country, an excellent guide for our citizens or because she had the ability to rally support. She was brought in because of her oil-situation and that was *it*

Now she is no longer governor.
THAT was her only tie to power and the ability to deal with oil companies and garner support.

Now that is gone - wooosh, gone. And all that's left is useless, unemployed Palin.

If anyone actually supports her *now* then they aren't a serious voter and they really don't give a **** about the issues. Because oil is no longer an issue. We're still cleaning up the glass from Obama's ceiling-shattering moments and our country is no better off.

I hope *and pray* that people *stop* trying to set records and stir the pot. I really hope that everyone votes with the consideration of who will actually *get things done - and do them well* instead of voting for popularity and appeasement.

Obama's black - does it matter?
Clinton played the saxophone - did that help him in office?
Bush, well - Bush rides horses - still, did it help?

Yet these 'popularity' things that are more appropriate when you're making friends in school are *the issues* for many voters and this is what they *base their votes on*

It's actually a bit disturbing - and when I look at things *that way* the idea of having peoples' voting rights curbed is slightly appealing. I mean - if someone's not going to make a sound, reasonable vote based on issues and facts - but more so on race, gender or location - then I don't actually WANT them choosing my future for me.
 
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She is a joke and not needed
 
well knowing lots of high ranking Republicans including the newest senator (elect) from Ohio as well as 4 of the 5 founders of the Federalist Society and knowing that none of them see Palin as a viable contender in 2012, I would argue you are wrong.

she is unelectable and those who run the party know that. she has been demonized by the press and was unable to overcome the picture they painted of her

While that's all fine and well, the people don't think that. Specifically, the Tea Party (which has served to not only address a sizable amount of greivances the people legitimately have, but has served as a rallying point for the far-far-right) supports Sarah Palin. And that is a very, very dangerous position; given that voters are immmesaruably frustrated with government, and have to resort to the Tea Party...its going to screw our government up even more. Imagine what happens in 2 years when the conservative vote is split into the Republican Party and the Tea Party (as a third party or something distinguishable from the GOP)...the Dem's can only filibuster, and the GOP is going to be battling infighting against the Tea Party. And I think the GOP isn't going to have a majority because of the Tea Party split, if it happens.
 
I would like to see a Republican candidate who would actually use their power to better the lives of anyone who isn't a billionaire. We haven't had any of those since before Regan.
 
I disagree. Palin is extremely popular among the Republican party base. I think she is probably the most popular of all the front runners. The nod is hers if she wants it. The question is whether she wants it.

I think you don't know much about those who run the party
 
I would like to see a Republican candidate who would actually use their power to better the lives of anyone who isn't a billionaire. We haven't had any of those since before Regan.

addicting people to government handouts does not make their lives better
the billionaires prefer welfare socialism not the the GOP agenda
its those of us who actually get punished by ever increasing taxes who support the GOP
 
While that's all fine and well, the people don't think that. Specifically, the Tea Party (which has served to not only address a sizable amount of greivances the people legitimately have, but has served as a rallying point for the far-far-right) supports Sarah Palin. And that is a very, very dangerous position; given that voters are immmesaruably frustrated with government, and have to resort to the Tea Party...its going to screw our government up even more. Imagine what happens in 2 years when the conservative vote is split into the Republican Party and the Tea Party (as a third party or something distinguishable from the GOP)...the Dem's can only filibuster, and the GOP is going to be battling infighting against the Tea Party. And I think the GOP isn't going to have a majority because of the Tea Party split, if it happens.


your concept of far far rigt is rather misguided
 
your concept of far far rigt is rather misguided

It would be if I thought the entire Tea Party was far far right, but its not. Most of it is the sort of people Jon Stewart's rally catered too, but on the conservative side. What the media covers is the far far right people because they make for better television, but at the same time it ends up demonizing the entire Tea Party. And then, going back to what I said in my last post, the Tea Party might lead to destabilization of the political process (with the same caveat that I wouldn't place a bet that it might actually happen; politics are too freaking crazy).
 
I would say that Palin is the odds on favorite at this point to get the GOP nod.

I disagree. Palin is extremely popular among the Republican party base. I think she is probably the most popular of all the front runners. The nod is hers if she wants it. The question is whether she wants it.

And you know this how? By reading blogs and Free Republic? DD, this isn't meant as a personal insults, but often your POV is like saying, I know all about Black culture because I've watched BET.

I'll be upfront and say I use to love her - I use to be a Republican and I was thrilled when she came onto the scene.
Now I'm not even a Republican and I can't stand her (gee- how things change)

so putting aside my feelings - looking at the basics:

She was brought into the race PURELY because of her connection to the oil-companies and how she dealt with them.
That was IT.

Remember - we were at the height of our ginormous gas-prices. Gas for me was $4.25/gallon - "Drill baby Drill' was the mantra. (remember that?)

She was not brought in because she would have been a stellar leader for the country, an excellent guide for our citizens or because she had the ability to rally support. She was brought in because of her oil-situation and that was *it*

Agreed. People tend to forget that little tidbit. Once they saw an attractive woman, they couldn't get past it.

Sarah Palin will not be on the ticket. She may be popular with some conservatives, but not popular in a viable candidate way. I have to ask about wishing she were on the ticket. Are you so hot to win at any cost that you'd really prefer to stifle real debate and opposing view points? Is Obama that weak that he can't face a formidable opponent? Because that really doesn't bode too well for our country if that's the case.
 
Sara Palin isn't a viable candidate anymore.


2012: Jim DeMint.
 
Any specific hopefuls you can think of?

I kinda like this Marco Rubio guy from Florida. He's a bible-thumper but he's comes across as honest and sincere in his desire to serve the people. ALL people. And he's quick to spank his own party about their arrogant "do-nothing" partisanship.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) caused a minor stir last week, insisting in an interview, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.... Our single biggest political goal is to give [the Republican] nominee for president the maximum opportunity to be successful." The Washington Monthly

What? #1 priority isn't jobs? The economy? Healthcare reform? Wall Street reform? The things Americans want fixed? Well, surprise, surprise... :roll:

The GOP needs to get away from this. I think Rubio would take an entirely different approach.

The American people, by a decent majority, elected Obama because they wanted to end the wars, fix healthcare, get rid of the people who drove us into economic collapse. He's the one that built his platform with those planks. So, he's the one that got elected.

In resonse, the GOP pretty much replied "**** what America wants" because it went against big buisness and so many special interests that fill their campaign chests. So they sat on their hands, filibustered and fought the change that Americans voted for at every turn.

As a result, they won the next round of elections? Duh? Don't make sense to me either. But it was a fair election. Now is the time to work on what the American people want. Healthcare, education, jobs, economy and the end of these going nowhere expensive wars.

I think if Rubio was in charge of the GOP this could happen. I could get behind him. But I think what is going to happen instead, is just just more years of do-nothing, worthless GOP politicians raping the national coffers while the rich get richer and the poor gets poorer. But, and I hate to say it, America will get what it deserves. We voted for it.
 
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And you know this how? By reading blogs and Free Republic? DD, this isn't meant as a personal insults, but often your POV is like saying, I know all about Black culture because I've watched BET.

Really? Who in the potential Republican crowd is more popular among the base of the Republican party than Sarah Palin?

True...there may be those running the party that would love to see her shrivel up and disappear, but there is no one in the GOP today that is more popular among Republicans than Sarah Palin.
 
So who's with me?! PALIN! PALIN! PALIN! PALIN!

Seeing as how none of the clowns in DC will ever be honest enough about what they do to put on a clown suit, Palin on the ticket would be the next best thing.

TED,
Buying stock in ConAgra Foods if politics get that funny. :lol:
 
Bobby Jindal>Palin/Obama

 
Maybe that will be the case someday -- when the rest of the nation has the slightest clue who he is, what he's done, and what he stands for. :lol:
 
Maybe that will be the case someday -- when the rest of the nation has the slightest clue who he is, what he's done, and what he stands for. :lol:

Then you would be surprised.
 
Repub 2012 candidate will be, relatively, a "dark horse". It won't be Palin, Newt, or McCain. It probably will not be Romney, or anyone else who ran in 08.

Jindall, deMint, a R governor or senator.... most likely.

The Republican base is tired of "Same old same old, good ole boy network" candidates and wants someone relatively fresh.
 
It seems many identify more with Palin than Obama. Rasmussen: Voters feel closer to Palin than Obama, 52/40 « Hot Air To be honest I'd rather have her as president over Obama, and I think she could have a chance of beating him in the 2012 elections.

There's a difference between someone identifying with someone more, and thinking that person is the best candidate. I also couldn't help but notice a little caveat in your link,

Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s.

And quite frankly, the average American stopped being important a few decades ago, when special interest groups started drowning him/her out. I'd love it if Palin ran too, because on the campaign trail, people will remember why we didn't put McCain and her in just a few years back; she has no substance, all she has is polarizing rhetoric.
 
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