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What should be done to cut down to help prevent voter fraud?

What should be done to cut down to help prevent voter fraud?

  • In person voting(unless you are bed ridden).

    Votes: 7 28.0%

  • Voter ID/registration required to be shown to vote

    Votes: 8 32.0%

  • ID/driver's license required to be shown to vote

    Votes: 15 60.0%

  • ID/driver's license to register to vote.

    Votes: 13 52.0%

  • Voter ID/registration card with a photo of the voter.

    Votes: 10 40.0%

  • In person to register to vote.

    Votes: 5 20.0%

  • S.S. card to register to vote.

    Votes: 5 20.0%

  • Birth certificate or naturalization document to register to vote.

    Votes: 8 32.0%

  • Proof of address to register to vote.

    Votes: 9 36.0%

  • other

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • Total voters
    25
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Hoplite said:
You gave me a story that is uncheckable. That makes it worthless as far as an exchange goes.

Find sources or clear the field for people who know what they're doing.
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I post what I know was said

If you don't like it, too bad. I find it funny that you claim I don't know what i am doing
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Goobieman said:
It comes up every time a Dem loses an election.
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Amazing how those same people oppose ID to vote and other solutions and claim that it is to disenfranchise the poor. What poor person does not have ID? You need a ID for a lot of stuff. Unless someone is a lifer in prison then there is no reason they should not have a ID.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

jamesrage said:
Amazing how those same people oppose ID to vote and other solutions and claim that it is to disenfranchise the poor. What poor person does not have ID? You need a ID for a lot of stuff. Unless someone is a lifer in prison then there is no reason they should not have a ID.
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No kidding. How many people cannot afford the <$10 (every 4 years) for a state ID?
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Hoplite said:
No, no it isnt.
Not being in charge of Democratic strategy or even a Democrat, I dont know.
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Nice sidestep. :thumbsup:
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

pbrauer said:
If you live in more than one place or move you can be registered and vote in several plzces, that's voter fraud.
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Only if you vote more than once.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

hazlnut said:
Voter Fraud is a Fox News myth...
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:roll: yeah. because felons voting didn't put franken in the senate.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

People who are complaining about voter fraud have yet to produce some proof that this is a serious problem.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Hoplite said:
What proof is there that voter fraud is a significant problem?
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The problem is those running for office and the financing methods used. So called "voter fraud" is very, very minor.
Also, the acceptance of political signs and goons at the polling places must be banned.
And, "robotic telephone calls" must be banned.
We have a lot of work to do
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

jamesrage said:
They can't set up a polling place on a military base or embassy? If there is circumstances that would prevent someone from driving to a polling place I can see allowing someone to vote early or even by mail.
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All things that reduce the cost of voting must be done.
But ,there is the convenience of the process that must be considered.This has, in the past, been a prime concern. Voting machines were very durable and may have been used for hundreds of years.
Now we have the electronic units - so much easier to use and faster.
Maybe Election Day should be a national holiday...
I still favor mandatory voting with the "none of the above" option.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

earthworm said:
All things that reduce the cost of voting must be done.
But ,there is the convenience of the process that must be considered.This has, in the past, been a prime concern. Voting machines were very durable and may have been used for hundreds of years.
Now we have the electronic units - so much easier to use and faster.
Maybe Election Day should be a national holiday...
I still favor mandatory voting with the "none of the above" option.
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I prefer paper ballots. Machines can be hacked,go haywire or something else.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Hoplite said:
People who are complaining about voter fraud have yet to produce some proof that this is a serious problem.
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How can you prove fraud in something that has anonymous ballots? It would be like looking at a bucket of dirt on your front porch and trying to prove which neighbors yard it came from . Unless there are a ton of dead people and Disney characters on voter rolls there is no way to prove voter fraud.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

jamesrage said:
How can you prove fraud in something that has anonymous ballots? It would be like looking at a bucket of dirt on your front porch and trying to prove which neighbors yard it came from . Unless there are a ton of dead people and Disney characters on voter rolls there is no way to prove voter fraud.
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So...we have to take it on faith that it's happening and expend resources to fix something we arent even sure is there?
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Hoplite said:
So...we have to take it on faith that it's happening
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So... you expect us to take it on faith that it is not happening. You have yet to prove that it is not happening.

and expend resources to fix something we aren't even sure is there?
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I find it hard to believe that it would cost extra to pay a polling place worker or someone at the election board to ask for drivers license/ID,SS card, birth certificate? I also find it hard to believe that with all the foreign aid and other nonsense the US throws money away on that there would be an issue with the cost associated with preventing or cutting down on voter fraud.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

jamesrage said:
So... you expect us to take it on faith that it is not happening. You have yet to prove that it is not happening.
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You dont prove a negative, it's on YOU to prove that there is voter fraud going on and that it's a serious problem. My part comes IF you can do that.

I find it hard to believe that it would cost extra to pay a polling place worker or someone at the election board to ask for drivers license/ID,SS card, birth certificate? I also find it hard to believe that with all the foreign aid and other nonsense the US throws money away on that there would be an issue with the cost associated with preventing or cutting down on voter fraud.
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If it costs $1, its too much to spend on a problem that you havent even established as being a serious one.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

I put other but not really to stop fraud, to stop idiots from voting. I'm pretty sure this is against the law now but we need to ask two simple questions:

-How many states are in the union?

and

-Recite the Pledge of Allegiance

Can't do that tough **** go about your business.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Hoplite said:
You dont prove a negative, it's on YOU to prove that there is voter fraud going on and that it's a serious problem. My part comes IF you can do that.
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You are the one claiming it is not happening,so you should prove it before asking anyone to prove that it has happened. Besides that you can't prove fraud with anonymous ballots.

If it costs $1, its too much to spend on a problem that you havent even established as being a serious one.
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The extra costs ensures that such possibilities of voter fraud will be much harder. By your logic a new bank should not get a security system just because it is has yet to be robbed.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

The biggest potential problem with voter fraud is the method in how we vote. Electronic voting machines have never been secure. So much so that several demonstrations show that with the proper easily acquired equipment, e-voting results can be tampered with in less than a minute. The capacity to render thousands of votes to a different candidate far outweighs anything that has been brought up before.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

jamesrage said:
You are the one claiming it is not happening,so you should prove it before asking anyone to prove that it has happened. Besides that you can't prove fraud with anonymous ballots.
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Ok, you claim that there is voter fraud and that it's a significant problem, I dispute that claim, the burden of proof is on YOU.

Here's a hint: If your position cant be proven true OR false, it's probably a logically un-sound idea.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Get rid of electronic voting and return to paper ballot.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

earthworm said:
If there is no problem, then -nothing.
But there is, and it is with the political parties, who do not wish to reform/improve the process.
I still think that we need a national ID/social security/Medicare extended/drivers license/medical care/chipped card.
One does everything and cannot be lost or stolen.
But this requires infrastructure and trained/intelligent people, neither of which we have.....
Some people think that it is bad that dead people vote in Chicago and that illiterates vote in the southern states. What is really BAD is the candidates can be brain dead (tea bagging conservatives) or illiterate...
Do they read the bills that they wish to have enacted? This is what I mean by "illiterate". Or, do they make them to be readable (the coffee drinking liberals)
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:shock: Read the bills? That's a great idea, but it should be required of those voting for the bill. Then if you want voters to be required to read them....we'll talk.
This last election there probably were more voters who read the HC bill than those who voted for it.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

jamesrage said:
So... you expect us to take it on faith that it is not happening. You have yet to prove that it is not happening.



I find it hard to believe that it would cost extra to pay a polling place worker or someone at the election board to ask for drivers license/ID,SS card, birth certificate? I also find it hard to believe that with all the foreign aid and other nonsense the US throws money away on that there would be an issue with the cost associated with preventing or cutting down on voter fraud.
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According to OK state officials, it will cost $90,000 per election in Oklahoma to pay additional election workers to process IDs. There are approximately 6 elections a year. That's a lot of money for something unnecessary.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

pbrauer said:
If it were true, then there would be convictions or trials. Where are they documentm?

Republicans/conservative bring up issue of voter fraud because it has the tendancy to supress the vote of low income people.

Here is what Paul Weyrich had to say 30 years ago:

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Sorry, that clip was so short he didn't have a chance to explain why he doesn't want everyone to vote. People on here have said they also don't want everyone to have a vote.
Was he talking about brain dead people, illegals, or prisoners ?
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

JohnWOlin said:
I put other but not really to stop fraud, to stop idiots from voting. I'm pretty sure this is against the law now but we need to ask two simple questions:

-How many states are in the union?

and

-Recite the Pledge of Allegiance

Can't do that tough **** go about your business.
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:shock: You want to deny our President his right to vote??:2wave:
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

OKgrannie said:
According to OK state officials, it will cost $90,000 per election in Oklahoma to pay additional election workers to process IDs. There are approximately 6 elections a year. That's a lot of money for something unnecessary.
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That's ridiculous. How long would it to look at a picture ID and see if it matched the person and the name on their list?
Sounds like a lame excuse from OK officials.
 
Re: What should be done to cut down or help prevent voter fraud?

Barbbtx said:
That's ridiculous. How long would it to look at a picture ID and see if it matched the person and the name on their list?
Sounds like a lame excuse from OK officials.
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It would definitely slow down election workers. That means hiring additional personnel in order that all voters get processed expeditiously. Voters already have to wait in many locations, especially on heavy-turnout elections.
 
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