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Federation v Empire

In a war between the Federation and the Empire, who wins?

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Goobieman said:
Do you/have you played SFB?
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Back in the day as it was first. I never liked it though, it did not feel like what we were seeing in the movies or TV shows.

FASA's "Star Trek II Starship Combat Simular" was far superior in every way. I still own the game and all it's add on boks.
 
molten_dragon said:
Well, star trek ships are pretty slow, at least in terms of galaxy-spanning travel. If only on-film sources are being used, then there's nothing that directly states 'SW hyperdrives are X fast', but some quotes from the characters allude to the fact that hyperdrive is MUCH faster than warp drive.

SW ships can't attack from hyperdrive the way ST ships can from warp, but being able to move between battles faster will be a big advantage.
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You know, that's true.

I think that tactically, a handful of ST ships could wipe out a large fleet of Star Destroyers and fighters, primarily because of the warp drive advantage and being able to attack at superluminal speeds.

However, you can win lots of battles and still lose the war, if the enemy has the capacity to choose his battlegrounds by means of superior mobility and greater resources.

It casts doubts on the issue anyway...
 
Good good, the Empire is winning. Cue the Imperial March.
 
repeter said:
Then its pretty much game over for the Federation. Unless they could keep up with and eliminate Empire shpis before they arrived at their target (presumably a Federation planet), they couldn't hope to take out all the Empire ships before the planet is glassed. And this isn't even considering the use of a Death Star(s). If the Empire wanted, imagine how many Death Stars they could throw at the Fed's with their enormous resources...
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You're assuming that there are more than one Death Stars. In the film canon, there are only two Death Stars and they both got destroyed, so for this exercise they wouldn't exist.
 
Blackdog said:
Back in the day as it was first. I never liked it though, it did not feel like what we were seeing in the movies or TV shows.

FASA's "Star Trek II Starship Combat Simular" was far superior in every way. I still own the game and all it's add on boks.
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Interesting that I have exactly the opposite view...
 
molten_dragon said:
What are you talking about? SW ships don't use turbo-fan engines. The only time we saw those was in the pod-racing scenes in Episode I (which coincidentally looks like the coolest sport ever invented).
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Go check out the X-wing fighter, for example. 4 air in-takes. In flight you can see the afterburner engage.
 
repeter said:
So now its Genesis Device vs. Death Star/Sun Crusher (if you include the Sun Crusher)
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Well, yes, though the Genesis Torpedo, given the Empire's inability to see, much less shoot at, anything moving FTL, cannot be stopped, and needs only a single torpedo tube.
 
repeter said:
So now its Genesis Device vs. Death Star/Sun Crusher (if you include the Sun Crusher)
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So we have these 2 armadas flying around fighting, and everyone is in agrement that the best way to win the war is to distroy all the planets.....yeeeeaaaahhh....
 
Blackdog said:
That is because you are the son of a Denebian Slim Devil! :2razz:
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nah, denebian slime devils are soft and he is anything but soft. he may be a tin-plated over-bearing dictator with delusions of godhood...but he isn't soft.
 
OscarB63 said:
nah, denebian slime devils are soft and he is anything but soft. he may be a tin-plated over-bearing dictator with delusions of godhood...but he isn't soft.
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:prof Attention to detail! I said "son of" obviously his mother was a Gorn. :mrgreen:
 
Blackdog said:
That is because you are the son of a Denebian Slim Devil! :2razz:
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I heard they where actually kinda fat.

Blackdog said:
:prof Attention to detail! I said "son of" obviously his mother was a Gorn. :mrgreen:
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I pay attention to detail, that is why I made the comment above.

:2razz:
 
Is this a duel, where the Empire chooses it's best ship to go against the Fed's best ship?

Planet system vs planet system? Character(s) vs Character(s).

If the Empire is invading ST's reality, does the Fed know about it in advance and have they placed an ambush at the entry point to that reality? Has the Empire conducted recon and have a plane to repel the ambush? If so, how is the ambush configured? Based on what intelligence? Did the Borg queen O.D. on hogandaz when Boba-Fet killed Han Solo before she could "assimilate" him?

If the Fed is invading SW's reality, did the Fed conduct recon and know to hit the Kamino clone factories and the Executor first? Is the Fed aware of the lite-saber and how awesome it is? Do the Maki make an alliance with the Rebel Alliance, exchanging technology for a scantly clad Princess Laya on-a-leash?

How pissed of will Babylon-5 be when they find out they're missing all the fun?
 
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NONE of this matters.... all everyone needs to know is the Federation would wipe out the Empire. The Empire is low tech with lumbering ships with weak force fields. Even a low grade Federation ship could wipe out a Captial ship. Destroy all their primary targets with probably 2 passes and finish it off with a few photon torpedos.
 
The Giant Noodle said:
NONE of this matters.... all everyone needs to know is the Federation would wipe out the Empire. The Empire is low tech with lumbering ships with weak force fields. Even a low grade Federation ship could wipe out a Captial ship. Destroy all their primary targets with probably 2 passes and finish it off with a few photon torpedos.
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And we know this how?
 
Jerry said:
So we have these 2 armadas flying around fighting, and everyone is in agrement that the best way to win the war is to distroy all the planets.....yeeeeaaaahhh....
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Wars are won by destroying the enemy's ability to make war.
In this case, the Feds need to target and destroy systems where the Imperials build/repair/refit/refuel their warships and grow their clones.
 
Jerry said:
Orbital Difence Grid.
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Useless. The Genesis Torpedo only neen be detonated 'near' the planet in question. The target planet won't even know it is there until it goes off.
 
Blackdog said:
That is because you are the son of a Denebian Slim Devil! :2razz:
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That's one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about my father...
:mrgreen:
 
repeter said:
And we know this how?
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Because Ive watched all the movies. And when those Empire ships need to turn, its like moving a oil tanker. Federation ships can move like a race car, WHILE going Warp ANNNNND it can fire phasers and torpedos while IN WARP! ALso they use Force Fields. where the Federation uses a force field PLUS multi-layered shields!
Empire uses lasers. Federation uses photon torpedos plus phasers that can be set to multiple frequencies AND fire multiple phasers at the same time.
 
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