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Mandatory military service?

Would you support a mandatory service when a person turns 21 or 18?


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sad isn't it??? that so many who cry about this being a free country are unwilling to lift a finger to help keep it that way.

it isn't a free country. not even close.

It once was, but not in my lifetime.

Right now we are so heavily regulated it is ridiculous.
 
No. No mandatory service of any kind. This is supposed to be a free country.
Great, when WWIII starts, where will we be? In a hole...with millions of untrained citizens.
But we will be "free", right? at least until foreign troops gather us up.
Veterans day is coming up....anybody got any extra patriotism to spare?
 
it isn't a free country. not even close.

It once was, but not in my lifetime.

Right now we are so heavily regulated it is ridiculous.

Not all regulations are bad, you know. I would bet that nearly ALL, if not ALL regulations are in response to Wall Street types latest version of how to screw the public out of a portion of their hard earned gains. People are easily corrupted in the presence of lots of money...
 
Veterans day is coming up....anybody got any extra patriotism to spare?

What does this mean? Is it patriotic to want mandatory service or to not want mandatory service?

I got plenty of extra. I served (paratrooper) and I don't want mandatory service.
 
Not all regulations are bad, you know. I would bet that nearly ALL, if not ALL regulations are in response to Wall Street types latest version of how to screw the public out of a portion of their hard earned gains. People are easily corrupted in the presence of lots of money...

I don't even know what people mean when they say we are free anymore.

I'm free to work exclusively for a Christian. I'm free to exclusively date a Christian. I'm not free to exclusively hire a Christian however.

I'm free to buy a car exclusively from a Christian. Can I only sell a car exclusively to a Christian? Obviously it is stupid for me to do so, but I suspect like most freedoms, this freedom has been removed in the name of class warfare.
 
I'm not really for mandatory military service (I don't want a bunch of jackasses holding the line with me) But I do think that some type of basic military training would be beneficial, followed by a couple of years of some kind of federal service, be it military or civilian.
 
Mandatory public service, in general, would only serve to enlarge the bureaucrazy. We've got excessive "good enough for government work" outside the military already. What kind of fiscal and overhead responsibility is this? This debate should be drawn strictly on big government vs. small government lines. Either you're with the commies or you're with us.

Further, I'd appreciate if you didn't take my money and create a crappy second-rate job of poor service with it. Thanks.
 
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Great, when WWIII starts, where will we be? In a hole...with millions of untrained citizens.
But we will be "free", right? at least until foreign troops gather us up.
Veterans day is coming up....anybody got any extra patriotism to spare?

...when WWIII starts...
that is a different subject for a different thread :-/

I've got plenty of patriotism. So does my husband who just retired from the Army after 21 years of service. And he doesn't believe in "mandatory" service, either.
But if you're referring to a necessary draft, should that NEED arise, in some future WWIII scenario, well that is a different subject.
 
Mandatory public service, in general, would only serve to enlarge the bureaucrazy. We've got excessive "good enough for government work" outside the military already. What kind of fiscal and overhead responsibility is this? This debate should be drawn strictly on big government vs. small government lines. Either you're with the commies or you're with us.

Further, I'd appreciate if you didn't take my money and create a crappy second-rate job of poor service with it. Thanks.


I'd rather pay em to do civil service than pay em to be on welfare
 
Welfare costs less and requires less government management. Why should I train them and give them a job when I can pay half as much, they can stay home and smoke crack and I get the same level of service.

Are you going to tell me that this program will create an efficient, good service public sector? No? It remains crappy? Then keep it small and charge me less for them to smoke crack instead. Thanks.


ps. Stop being a dirty commie.
 
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Great, when WWIII starts, where will we be? In a hole...with millions of untrained citizens.
But we will be "free", right? at least until foreign troops gather us up.
Veterans day is coming up....anybody got any extra patriotism to spare?

My country is supposed to be the bastion of freedom. Conscription is slavery, and antithetical to the supposed ideals of this country.
 
My country is supposed to be the bastion of freedom. Conscription is slavery, and antithetical to the supposed ideals of this country.

Yes, conscription is forced and unrewarded service, or slavery, while national service with incentives and benefits is not slavery.
There should be ample opportunities for such service, based somewhat on the military model, the longer you serve, the more points you earn towards benefits.
I would also suggest a tax credit be one of the benefits, so those who serve are subsidized by those who are too selfish to help pay for their own freedom...
 
Yes, conscription is forced and unrewarded service, or slavery, while national service with incentives and benefits is not slavery.
There should be ample opportunities for such service, based somewhat on the military model, the longer you serve, the more points you earn towards benefits.
I would also suggest a tax credit be one of the benefits, so those who serve are subsidized by those who are too selfish to help pay for their own freedom...

I have no problem with people choosing to serve in the military.
 
Yes, conscription is forced and unrewarded service, or slavery, while national service with incentives and benefits is not slavery.
There should be ample opportunities for such service, based somewhat on the military model, the longer you serve, the more points you earn towards benefits.
I would also suggest a tax credit be one of the benefits, so those who serve are subsidized by those who are too selfish to help pay for their own freedom...

this is funny coming from a guy who has no problem jacking up taxes on others and giving them nothing in return

why shouldn't recipients of welfare have to do menial labor for those of us who are top bracket tax payers.
 
My country is supposed to be the bastion of freedom. Conscription is slavery, and antithetical to the supposed ideals of this country.

"Freedom" isn't always free. Sometimes it comes with a heavy price. Who's going to pay that price? I suppose not you. :shrug:
 
Yes, absolutely! We would be more careful about our wars if there was mandatory service.
 
hmmm...... looks like majority of polled are FOR mandatory service. Interesting to say the least when you consider Canada's population would likely explode if it actually happened.
 
hmmm...... looks like majority of polled are FOR mandatory service. Interesting to say the least when you consider Canada's population would likely explode if it actually happened.
Doubt that would happen, no such explosion occurred during the Viet Nam war, and not only because of all the exemptions given to potential draftees. I think we would be a bit more cautious about our wars, and that would be a good thing all around.
 
"Freedom" isn't always free. Sometimes it comes with a heavy price. Who's going to pay that price? I suppose not you. :shrug:

Yet nobody is forced to be a police officer. Nobody is forced to be a scientist. Nobody is forced to be a general. You get more people by giving them more benefits.
 
We are able to field one of the largest military forces on earth with all volunteers. A draft is anything but necessary.
 
Yet nobody is forced to be a police officer. Nobody is forced to be a scientist. Nobody is forced to be a general. You get more people by giving them more benefits.
That's like comparing apples to oranges. You're talking about careers. Generally speaking, those who have been drafted into US military service, got out once their term of service expired. If they remained as career military afterward, then, my friend, that was by choice ;)
 
That's like comparing apples to oranges. You're talking about careers. Generally speaking, those who have been drafted into US military service, got out once their term of service expired. If they remained as career military afterward, then, my friend, that was by choice ;)

Involuntary servitude is involuntary servitude. I can understand the situation if we were a small country like Israel or in a bad situation like in WWII, but right now there is no real need.
 
Yes, absolutely! We would be more careful about our wars if there was mandatory service.

that's not true--with a volunteer army, generals are far less apt to waste men than with conscripts
 
That's like comparing apples to oranges. You're talking about careers. Generally speaking, those who have been drafted into US military service, got out once their term of service expired. If they remained as career military afterward, then, my friend, that was by choice ;)

People never take temporary jobs as janitors? People don't have to get drafted to do that. They do it because the pay justifies the effort.

Besides, the real issue is being avoided. Conscription is slavery, pure and simple.
 
People never take temporary jobs as janitors? People don't have to get drafted to do that. They do it because the pay justifies the effort.

Besides, the real issue is being avoided. Conscription is slavery, pure and simple.
Then by your definition of slavery, the Compulsory School Attendance law is also slavery, right?
 
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