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Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

Does it make you nervous?

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Nope and to be honest don't care enough to worry about it.
 
I live in a city with an international airport. I think of 9/11 each time I see a plane, and I offer a "Be safe" in thought.

I flew as soon as the planes were back in the air after that dark day; was I nervous? A bit. However, realistically, I also felt that a repeat of those horrid actions would not be happening again so soon.

I don't believe planes will be used again for a terrorist attack; but I also don't believe that we are completely safe. The fear of flying (no, not that one:2razz:) is not the worst thing the average citizen can be concerned with today.

Then again, I fly Southwest. Who the heck would even bother with those planes? Seriously - mess with those passengers?:shock:
 
Dulcinea said:
I live in a city with an international airport. I think of 9/11 each time I see a plane, and I offer a "Be safe" in thought.

I flew as soon as the planes were back in the air after that dark day; was I nervous? A bit. However, realistically, I also felt that a repeat of those horrid actions would not be happening again so soon.

I don't believe planes will be used again for a terrorist attack; but I also don't believe that we are completely safe. The fear of flying (no, not that one:2razz:) is not the worst thing the average citizen can be concerned with today.

Then again, I fly Southwest. Who the heck would even bother with those planes? Seriously - mess with those passengers?:shock:
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The literature I've read has said planes would likely be the way another attack would be attempted. A couple attempts have been made since, and planes were involved, the shoe bomber, the Xmas Day bomber. Actually, it's more than a couple when I think about it.
 
Coronado said:
None of the 9/11 hijackers were wearing "Muslim garb" when they boarded the planes. Thus, your emotional response is completely ridiculous.
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Honestly, if I knew there were 4 or 5 Muslim men on a flight ahead of time, I'd cancel my flight, lose the money and take the bus. Juan Williams, O'Reilly, all those journalists know there are no truly moderate Muslims. They stick together. They are dangerous and we'd be wise to be wary of them all. If there are truly moderate Muslims why have we not found Bin Laden. Ans: They will never give him up because they love him. He's their hero.

All these lovey dovey liberals need to start living in the real world. It's a dog eat dog world, and when something walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

Joy, Whoopie, Barbara need to start having at least one Muslim a day on their show, and ask them some tough questions. We'll see where that goes.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Juan Williams was released from NPR for his partisan role at Fox News, which precludes any attempt at being an objective reporter for NPR. Anyways, I'm fine with it, because what he said was stupid.

Anyways, tldr the thread but how many conservatives were up in arms over this? How many of those cheered the sacking of Helen Thomas?
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There's no comparison between the two. Juan is not a bigot and Helen Thomas is.
The better comparison would be between Shirley Sherrod and Juan Williams. Both were taken out of context and unjustly fired.
However, Juan was fired because they didn't like him going on Fox. !.8 million from Soros may have had something to do with it too. Taking a statement of his out of context was just an excuse to get rid of him.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
It's not common sense to have an emotional reaction to a muslim on a flight, with no evidence of a threat of harm. It's a purely trauma-related response to a major event that had a huge emotional impact on all of us who were adults at that point in time.

It's not rational, it just is. What Williams did wrong was to make that comment, and then not clarify that he regrets that emotional response. Any of us can have a fear response. However, holding on to racial/ethnic/religious bias is wrong.
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You would have to know the whole context before and after, between O'Reilly and Williams. Williams was actually defending moderate muslims.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
LOL yes he's not a bigot he's just scared of Muslims. Nothing bigoted about that!
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That's not what he said, any more than Jesse Jackson said he was afraid of black people.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
LOL yes he's not a bigot he's just scared of Muslims. Nothing bigoted about that!
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He gets nervous, anxious, worried when ON A PLANE with them. He knows it's not logical and that most Muslims are good people.
However, according to the polls, most people also have those same feelings or thoughts of 9/11 when flying with Muslims. Are there really that many bigots in America?
 
Barbbtx said:
He gets nervous, anxious, worried when ON A PLANE with them. He knows it's not logical and that most Muslims are good people.
However, according to the polls, most people also have those same feelings or thoughts of 9/11 when flying with Muslims. Are there really that many bigots in America?
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YES, there are Plenty: Such as those outraged ove Bush Sr. appointing a Black Conservative to the SCOTUS.
 
Marilyn Monroe said:
Honestly, if I knew there were 4 or 5 Muslim men on a flight ahead of time, I'd cancel my flight, lose the money and take the bus. Juan Williams, O'Reilly, all those journalists know there are no truly moderate Muslims. They stick together. They are dangerous and we'd be wise to be wary of them all. If there are truly moderate Muslims why have we not found Bin Laden. Ans: They will never give him up because they love him. He's their hero.

All these lovey dovey liberals need to start living in the real world. It's a dog eat dog world, and when something walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

Joy, Whoopie, Barbara need to start having at least one Muslim a day on their show, and ask them some tough questions. We'll see where that goes.
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Everything you just posted is wrong and you should feel very, very bad about it.
 
Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?
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No, that would be silly.
The last time I flew- when I went to see my son graduate from Basic- there were people in Muslim garb on my plane.
My dad and I sort of joked that they might make other people- ignorant people- nervous.
They definitely didn't make me nervous though.
 
Deuce said:
Everything you just posted is wrong and you should feel very, very bad about it.
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I don't feel bad. They should feel bad for what their people did to us, yet I haven't heard a lot of moderates coming out saying how awful it was. Even when they do speak kinda kindly and meek and humble, I don't believe it. They are not that kind of a people. They are trained early on to hate. I just don't care for them for what they did to us, and what the outcome has been since. Never found Bin Laden. Tsk! Tsk! I don't care to know them, or anything about them. They don't interest me.
 
1069 said:
No, that would be silly.
The last time I flew- when I went to see my son graduate from Basic- there were people in Muslim garb on my plane.
My dad and I sort of joked that they might make other people- ignorant people- nervous.
They definitely didn't make me nervous though.
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You have to be Ignorant to worry about being Killed (????)
 
Marilyn Monroe said:
They should feel bad for what their people did to us, yet I haven't heard a lot of moderates coming out saying how awful it was.
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This, as offtopic as it may be, keeps me wondering: Why is it that the Christians, etc as a whole haven't been held to the same standard and made to "feel bad" or "apologize" for the many many extreme and violent acts in the last few decades [even within our own borders]?
 
I kinda think I would, a little, although, I've never actually seen someone in full Muslim attire on a plane. I have sat next to a woman in full Muslim attire on a bus from NC to Michigan. She was nice, and I think she was actually from Africa, but I still feel awkward when I can't see someone's face, especially if they are talking to me. I get nervous about a lot of things though. And the feeling most likely wouldn't last long, because I get bored on a plane and I'm scared of take offs and any turbulence (eventhough I really do like to fly, probably because it gives me an adrenaline rush). I always have several things with me to take up my time on a plane trip.

I will say that I get nervous when I see any Arabic looking man on planes or on public transportation. I know that I do it, but I can't really stop myself. I actually think seeing an Arabic man or a group of Arabic men on the plane together would make me a lot more nervous than just seeing someone in Muslim attire. I would still fly with them, because I realize that it is highly unlikely that they would be terrorist and that my fears are irrational, for the most part. Maybe it's from the training about being aware when you fly that I had to take since I first joined the Navy (even in '98, it was the very last training you took before leaving boot camp, and it was mandatory). Another reason could have been the ship I was on showing us videos, that had been found on a group of terrorists, of the sailors from my ship getting aboard a metro train in Singapore. It seemed that they were planning on making that train a target when another carrier pulled into there because it was the main way for sailors to actually get into the city from the port. I don't know why I feel the way I do, but I do understand that it is irrational to suspect even most Arabs/Muslims of having anything to do with terrorism. This is why I would never act on those fears irrationally.
 
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Travelsonic said:
This, as offtopic as it may be, keeps me wondering: Why is it that the Christians, etc as a whole haven't been held to the same standard and made to "feel bad" or "apologize" for the many many extreme and violent acts in the last few decades [even within our own borders]?
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I'd like to see your short list .
 
I'm scared of Amish people.
 
Flying makes me nervous in general so I am usually well medicated and feeling pretty good:)
 
Ned Racine said:
YES, there are Plenty: Such as those outraged ove Bush Sr. appointing a Black Conservative to the SCOTUS.
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Yea, there are plenty of bigots when it comes to black conservatives. Mostly black on black bigotry.
 
Ned Racine said:
Actually they are not visible - YOU know that - and most others have no knowledge they are being worn. In short the Loyalty of Mormons is not the issue here.
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Don't be silly, Ned. Mormon garments have distinctive necklines (very different from the typical crewnecked undershirt that most men wear). I could always spot them when I lived in Utah, and even now, traveling as much as I do, I can spot Mormon men if they are wearing a white dress shirt; the garment shirt is often clearly visible through the shirt.

Again...why do you want to deny other people the rights to religious expression that you claim for yourself?
 
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