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Was CVS Pharmacy right or wrong?

Was CVS Pharmacy right or wrong?

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StandUpChuck said:
Your disrespect ends this conversation.
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Aw gosh. I'm all brokenhearted now.

Here's a thought: maybe those who can't take it shouldn't be so busy dishing it out, eh? :thumbs:

StandUpChuck said:
So you're going to hose over thousands of great & hardworking innocent CVS employees nationwide because one clerk made a bad call. That's nice. Hopefully all those unrelated meanies will suffer from the loss of business, lose their jobs and their kids won't get new bikes for Christmas. :wow:
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Glinda said:
Aw gosh. I'm all brokenhearted now.

Here's a thought: maybe those who can't take it shouldn't be so busy dishing it out, eh? :thumbs:
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Well... looks like you missed your chance to declare, icily, that her disrespect ended this conversation.

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StandUpChuck said:
Your disrespect ends this conversation.
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Just so we are clear, there are policies that can be enacted by a corporation for instances like these.

For example, in an emergency situation collateral can be held until the time that a person can come up with the money. Imagine how much easier this would have been had CVS simply held the customer's driver's liscense until they were able to come back with a dollar. It usually costs about $20 to replace a driver's license so there is no reason to believe that if they owed a few dollars they would not return, and you would even have their address on hand.
 
CriticalThought said:
I would say if someone is on the ground having an asthma attack and there is an ambulance on its way, then that is the kind of situation that calls for a manager's attention. The fact is that anyone who could have stepped up, the cashier, the pharmacist, fellow customers, etc. should have. This has very little to do with CVS and a lot more to do with the people who were there.

However, I regularly shop at CVS and this is the kind of thing that will make me think twice about doing so in the future. I as a customer have the power to choose where I do and do not shop and there is usually a Walgreens right across the street from a CVS.
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People are not obligated to help one another. No one acted wrongly in this, except for the woman having the asthma attack. If she had taken personal responsibility and brought her medication along this wouldn't have happened.
 
The_Patriot said:
People are not obligated to help one another.
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It would be nice if they did, but there was really nothing anyone could've done to "help" this woman obtain a prescription asthma inhaler without a prescription.
It is against the law.
If she was in crisis and needed emergency medical attention, calling an ambulance was the only "help" anyone could legally give her, and I've read nothing to indicate that this wasn't done.
Since the boyfriend had his cell phone (apparently attempted to trade it for an asthma inhaler), he could've as easily summoned emergency medical help from the street, saved valuable time, and spared everyone this donkey show.
 
The_Patriot said:
People are not obligated to help one another. No one acted wrongly in this, except for the woman having the asthma attack. If she had taken personal responsibility and brought her medication along this wouldn't have happened.
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Wow, that is cold.

You are eager to jump in and protect people who would stand by and watch someone die and yet you freely criticize someone whose only mistake was forgetting their medicine. I can't say I value human life at a dollar or that I could respect anyone that does. However, you are entitled to your values.
 
samsmart said:
So why is everybody denouncing the clerks at CVS Pharmacy for not pitching in a dollar but not denouncing the other customers in the store for not pitching in a dollar?

Let's not only boycott CVS Pharmacies but also random business consumers as well.
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I was thinking the same thing. I can't imagine being in a store, hearing bickering over a buck and not stepping up to the plate.
I don't care if it was because someone was short a dollar on their grocery bill and was going to have to put something back.
What country are we living in???
 
CriticalThought said:
Wow, that is cold.

You are eager to jump in and protect people who would stand by and watch someone die and yet you freely criticize someone whose only mistake was forgetting their medicine. I can't say I value human life at a dollar or that I could respect anyone that does. However, you are entitled to your values.
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It's not cold, but a fact of life. You want everyone to take responsibility for everyone else, but you don't want personal responsibility. Charity is given freely and is not coerced in any way. One of the things that was never mentioned was the couple never asked anyone else in the store if they could help., but you expect everyone to suddenly jump up and give out of guilt. They didn't go to the other shoppers and ask to borrow a dollar. Again this boils down to what the couple should have done due to personal responsibility, but x corporation is evil!!!111one!
 
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The_Patriot said:
People are not obligated to help one another. No one acted wrongly in this, except for the woman having the asthma attack. If she had taken personal responsibility and brought her medication along this wouldn't have happened.
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What? She was probably at the pharmacy because she was out of medication. I'm asthmatic and I can't always carry my rescue inhaler with me. Asthma attacks are serious and all she needed was $1. By this logic people who get in wrecks without a seat belt and can't afford an ER visit should just die because it was their personal responsibility to buckle up, and now they must mercilessly die. We are talking about human beings live's here.
 
Barbbtx said:
I was thinking the same thing. I can't imagine being in a store, hearing bickering over a buck and not stepping up to the plate.
I don't care if it was because someone was short a dollar on their grocery bill and was going to have to put something back.
What country are we living in???
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This does not ring true.
I ride the city bus almost daily; at least once a week, somebody gets on either without correct change, or without enough money, and stands there plaintively asking for thirty cents or whatever.
And invariably, someone gets up and forks over the change.
I have NEVER seen someone have to get off the bus for lack of money. Someone ALWAYS gives it to them.
And people who ride the bus are basically the dregs of society, frankly.

I maintain my belief that this was not about a dollar, until I see evidence to the contrary.
Was the inhaler prescription?
Did she produce a written prescription for it, or did CVS already have her prescription in their computer?
Until I see evidence that the inhaler didn't require a prescription to purchase, or that the woman had her prescription with her, I fail to see how this is anything but a case of employees abiding by federal and state law.
 
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The_Patriot said:
It's not cold, but a fact of life. You want everyone to take responsibility for everyone else, but you don't want personal responsibility.
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Funny, I thought personal responsiblity was looking out for your neighbor.

Charity is given freely and is not coerced in any way.
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Imagine that, someone having an asthma attack in front of you is coercion.

One of the things that was never mentioned was the couple never asked anyone else in the store if they could help. They didn't go to the other shoppers and ask to borrow a dollar. Again this boils down to what the couple should have done due to personal responsibility, but x corporation is evil!!!111one!
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Where does it say what the couple did and did not do? Also, you claim that charity should be freely given and now you claim they should have begged for it?
 
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digsbe said:
What? She was probably at the pharmacy because she was out of medication. I'm asthmatic and I can't always carry my rescue inhaler with me. Asthma attacks are serious and all she needed was $1. By this logic people who get in wrecks without a seat belt and can't afford an ER visit should just die because it was their personal responsibility to buckle up, and now they must mercilessly die. We are talking about human beings live's here.
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Not according to the story. The couple was out walking and she had a sudden asthma attack, so they went into the store to get her an inhaler.
 
The_Patriot said:
People are not obligated to help one another. No one acted wrongly in this, except for the woman having the asthma attack. If she had taken personal responsibility and brought her medication along this wouldn't have happened.
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If anything, a statement like this is the most resounding way to prove that conservative ideology is, at its centre, selfish, naive and regressive.

One could debate all day long about whether the manager ought to have sold her the asthma inhaler, if the debate is about the legality of selling dangerous drugs to unconfirmed sob story tellers.

But this... Your ideology has twisted you so much that you believe that people ought to be horrible bastards to each other, just because it aligns with your twisted political views.

I don't understand how to get through to a person who has left logic so far behind as to agree with a statement like, "The woman having the asthma attack was in the wrong -- people needn't help each other."

When you get to hell, send my regards to Hitler and Limbaugh.
 
Le Marteau said:
I don't understand how to get through to a person who has left logic so far behind as to agree with a statement like, "The woman having the asthma attack was in the wrong -- people needn't help each other."

When you get to hell, send my regards to Hitler and Limbaugh.
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Well they certainly aren't going to the same place as that dude in sandles who said, "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."
 
CriticalThought said:
Funny, I thought personal responsiblity was looking out for your neighbor.
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No, that's responsibility of others. Personal responsibility is making sure that you have what you need.

CriticalThought said:
Imagine that, someone having an asthma attack in front of you is coercion.
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I never said anything of the sort, so please refrain from putting words in my mouth and strawmanning that.

CriticalThought said:
Where does it say what the couple did and did not do? Also, you claim that charity should be freely given and now you claim they should have begged for it?
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Did I not say, "One of the things that was never mentioned..."? Asking for the dollar to receive charity is to let the person you're asking that you need the money. People are not mind readers and if a shopper that was in the back comes to the front to check out are supposed to know that the couple needed a dollar?
 
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The_Patriot said:
Not according to the story. The couple was out walking and she had a sudden asthma attack, so they went into the store to get her an inhaler.
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And obviously she had a prescription and was legally allowed to receive her medication. Asthma attacks are very serious. The guy only needed $1 and they denied her the medicine she needed over $1. I work in a pharmacy and we have a coin tray that usually has around $3 in it. If someone is short we pay the difference. We also carry manufacturers discount cards on the shelves so we can try and save people money. Pharmacies are part of the healthcare industry. Although it is a for profit business, it's also a medical service and serving people's medical needs are the #1 priority. They can just take the $20 and knock off the $1. At my pharmacy doctors are sometimes bad with calling in prescription refills. People come buy and they need their medicine. We can't legally give them the full quantity without the doctors consent, but with the old script we do loan them like a 3 day supply. We don't charge them for it, and we run the risk of them not paying for their meds when they come back. It's just the right thing to do, because people need their medicine and without it they will suffer. CVS acted highly unethically.
 
digsbe said:
And obviously she had a prescription and was legally allowed to receive her medication. Asthma attacks are very serious. The guy only needed $1 and they denied her the medicine she needed over $1. I work in a pharmacy and we have a coin tray that usually has around $3 in it. If someone is short we pay the difference. We also carry manufacturers discount cards on the shelves so we can try and save people money. Pharmacies are part of the healthcare industry. Although it is a for profit business, it's also a medical service and serving people's medical needs are the #1 priority. They can just take the $20 and knock off the $1. At my pharmacy doctors are sometimes bad with calling in prescription refills. People come buy and they need their medicine. We can't legally give them the full quantity without the doctors consent, but with the old script we do loan them like a 3 day supply. We don't charge them for it, and we run the risk of them not paying for their meds when they come back. It's just the right thing to do, because people need their medicine and without it they will suffer. CVS acted highly unethically.
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And the couple is legally obligated under contract law to carry the required funds to cover the purchase.
 
It seems like every poll in this forum gets spammed :roll:

IMO, medical service should be like the police, and fire department, you get it when you need it. No questions asked.
 
The_Patriot said:
And the couple is legally obligated under contract law to carry the required funds to cover the purchase.
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It's $1, and it's a life saving medication. Legality aside, most pharmacies are compassionate enough and will help out their customers. It's disgusting to put someone's life in jeopardy over $1.
 
The_Patriot said:
No, that's responsibility of others. Personal responsibility is making sure that you have what you need.
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I don't really see the difference. I need others and they need me.

I never said anything of the sort, so please refrain from putting words in my mouth and strawmanning that.
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Then how was this couple "coercing" others?

Did I not say, "One of the things that was never mentioned..."?
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Oh, so you are assuming this is the case?

Asking for the dollar to receive charity is to let the person you're asking that you need the money. People are not mind readers and if a shopper that was in the back comes to the front to check out are supposed to know that the couple needed a dollar?
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Difficult to say. There may have not been any customers in the store at the time. They may have been so paniced that they wouldn't sell them the inhaler that they weren't able to think straight. They may have asked every customer that was in the store, and every customer may have turned them down.
 
digsbe said:
It's $1, and it's a life saving medication. Legality aside, most pharmacies are compassionate enough and will help out their customers. It's disgusting to put someone's life in jeopardy over $1.
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I'll take that as a concession thank you.
 
Your Star said:
It seems like every poll in this forum gets spammed :roll:
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Yes, it appears that someone has hacked the poll results. Shouldn't that be permaban worthy?
 
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