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Are White People an oppressed minority?

Are White People an oppressed minority in America?


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so you get stopped and searched by the cops on a regular basis? quit blaming it on the color of your skin and take an honest look at your behavior.

with the ACLU and Al "bookman" Sharpton looking to burn anyone they can for "racism" there isn't a white cop out there who is going to risk pulling that crap these days.

I have got stopped and searched before on the basis of my race. Many Black and Asian youths have.
I have spoke about it before on the forums. The only criteria the police officer who stopped me explained was because to paraphrase, I matched the description (I was black) and I had a hoodie ... that is it.

Ah well. UK needs to take a leaf out of US's book and get our own ACLU then and Sharpton
 
unfortunately yes. "wah, wah, wah da man be keeping me down. Racism is the reason I can't get a good job...never mind the fact that I dropped out of high school and have the motivation of a dead fish...it's still all whitey's fault."

Observe: the facade cracks; the incipient racism shines through.
 
I have got stopped and searched before on the basis of my race. Many Black and Asian youths have.
I have spoke about it before on the forums. The only criteria the police officer who stopped me explained was because to paraphrase, I matched the description (I was black) and I had a hoodie ... that is it.

So you weren't stopped on the basis of your race, you were stopped based on the fact that you fit some basic description of a person who had committed a crime in the area.

If I lived in a neighborhood where a lot of crimes were committed by blonde dudes wearing yankee hats and jeans, I would be stopped by the police all the time. That doesn't mean that they would be stopping me because they're bigoted against white people.
 
So you acknowledge that even if you think another race receives some particular benefits, that doesn't mean you want to trade or that you're a hypocrite for being happy in your own skin.

If that's true, then why is it that when Caine noted some benefits of being a minority, you responded by asking him if he wanted to trade races as if that proved some point?

Caine noted some benefits of being a minority. You noted some benefits of being white. You're both happy with being who you are.

I wouldn't wish to trade my skin colour because it is part of my history and something of my culture even if I think white people have it easier.

I don't see any benefit to being Black in US or indeed abroad. African Americans are the most disadvantaged race in US imo, both educational and financial wise. Many are likely to be born in a single parent household or a low income family. So whatever benefits he claims they are receiving, I do not see or agree with.
And individuals of every race is capable of being racist and I'm sure there are many racists who are Black so his second point is moot.
 
So you weren't stopped on the basis of your race, you were stopped based on the fact that you fit some basic description of a person who had committed a crime in the area.

If I lived in a neighborhood where a lot of crimes were committed by blonde dudes wearing yankee hats and jeans, I would be stopped by the police all the time. That doesn't mean that they would be stopping me because they're bigoted against white people.

That was just one example and when I spoke about it on the forum, I wasn't particularly bothered because even if they stopped me, it wasn't that traumatic in that instance but I have been stopped and searched over a dozen times in the last few years for no good reason for what I believe was no reason than my skin colour.
Most Blacks in London/UK, especially Black/Asian youths are stopped and unfairly targeted because of their background and little else. Hell the Chief constable admitted previously that the Met Police is "institutionally racist"
 
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I wouldn't wish to trade my skin colour because it is part of my history and something of my culture even if I think white people have it easier.

I don't see any benefit to being Black in US or indeed abroad. African Americans are the most disadvantaged race in US imo, both educational and financial wise. Many are likely to be born in a single parent household or a low income family. So whatever benefits he claims they are receiving, I do not see or agree with.
And individuals of every race is capable of being racist and I'm sure there are many racists who are Black so his second point is moot.


And then to top it off, they have higher rates of nearly every disease.
I remember being so appalled when I read that.
It's like the entire universe is on the side of whites, I mean WTF? :confused:


Whites, however, have a higher rate of suicide. :lol:
 
I don't see any benefit to being Black in US or indeed abroad. African Americans are the most disadvantaged race in US imo, both educational and financial wise. Many are likely to be born in a single parent household or a low income family. So whatever benefits he claims they are receiving, I do not see or agree with.

Underrepresented minorities benefit from affirmative action policies when applying to college, grad school, and jobs. From earlier in this thread:

Consistent with other studies, though in much greater detail, Espenshade and Radford show the substantial admissions boost, particularly at the private colleges in their study, which Hispanic students get over whites, and the enormous advantage over whites given to blacks. They also show how Asians must do substantially better than whites in order to reap the same probabilities of acceptance to these same highly competitive private colleges. On an "other things equal basis," where adjustments are made for a variety of background factors, being Hispanic conferred an admissions boost over being white (for those who applied in 1997) equivalent to 130 SAT points (out of 1600), while being black rather than white conferred a 310 SAT point advantage. Asians, however, suffered an admissions penalty compared to whites equivalent to 140 SAT points.

The box students checked off on the racial question on their application was thus shown to have an extraordinary effect on a student's chances of gaining admission to the highly competitive private schools in the NSCE database. To have the same chances of gaining admission as a black student with an SAT score of 1100, an Hispanic student otherwise equally matched in background characteristics would have to have a 1230, a white student a 1410, and an Asian student a 1550.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/82675-white-people-oppressed-minority-4.html#post1059014413

I believe that's what Caine was referring to.
 
And then to top it off, they have higher rates of nearly every disease.
I remember being so appalled when I read that.
It's like the entire universe is on the side of whites, I mean WTF? :confused:

Whites, however, have a higher rate of suicide. :lol:

And the highest chance of being arrested and eventually jailed.

Oh, I didn't know that lol
 
Underrepresented minorities benefit from affirmative action policies when applying to college, grad school, and jobs. From earlier in this thread:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/82675-white-people-oppressed-minority-4.html#post1059014413

I believe that's what Caine was referring to.

He's complaining about affirmative action? Meh.
Now that makes slightly more sense than being called racist by racists :/

Theoretically minorities in US get a leg up.
Realistically Whites as a whole in US generally are still better off and always will be, leg up or not by the State. Whites are always going to dominate the political elite, mixed race President or not.
 
YES I think that white people are becoming a forced minority (unpopular) and it is gaining ground around many circles and is perpetuated by well meaning young people who havent came to the realization that , "they are being brainwashed". I dont mind Immigrants- just be legal. I am not a bigot- I acknowledge the fact that they are BLACK AMERICANS living in the nation where they are able to thru their own hard work and commitment be anything they chose.
 
He's complaining about affirmative action? Meh.
Now that makes slightly more sense than being called racist by racists :/

Theoretically minorities in US get a leg up.
Realistically Whites as a whole in US generally are still better off and always will be, leg up or not by the State. Whites are always going to dominate the political elite, mixed race President or not.

Whether whites and non-URMs as a group have more success than URMs on average has nothing to do with whether individual URMs receive special privileges that are not offered to individual whites/non-URMs.
 
Whether whites and non-URMs as a group have more success than URMs on average has nothing to do with whether individual URMs receive special privileges that are not offered to individual whites/non-URMs.

Sure, I can acknowledge affirmative action exists in US :shrug:
 
ACtually that IS true Mr. Cop Guy :roll:
Ive been with my latino friends and black friends and they have gotten actually pulled over for going to SLOW! Anyhow cops are right to pull over those two minorities because they DO cause a large percentage of crimes for thier population. Not like I see a lot of Asian criminals or Indians :roll:

Going too SLOW! is actually a Supreme Court recognized sign of impaired driving. Coupled with an area of town known for high drunken driving incidents, bars in the area, time of night, and/or other signs of slowed reactions or impairment, this could be an excellent reason to stop a vehicle.

:roll:
 
LOL
Not in UK you aren't so I know I'm right, the Government's own statistics and investigation concluded that ethnic minorities - in particular Asian and Blacks are unfairly targeted by the police so you can take your bull**** about white people being oppressed/have something to complain about elsewhere especially if it involves the common whine of "Brown people are coming in and getting special privileges".
A. I haven't stated that white people are oppressed. I suggest you go through this thread and try to see if I have. B. I voted "No" on the poll. But that can or cannot be verified, depending on whether or not this poll is listed as a poll where people can see what you chose. Im too lazy to go look. C. I answered YOUR QUESTION as to what white people have to complain about. If you don't want to have your question answered then don't ****ing ask it.

The only area in this world where White people can in my view actually claim to be oppressed or discriminated against is in Africa.
Are you in Africa? Zimbabwe in particular where I do feel White people are being persecuted?
No?
Then quit your damn bitching.
Im not bitching about anything.
You asked a ****ing question. I answered a ****ing question.

See above.

And for the love of god, pull that god damned chip off your shoulder and stop putting comments in people's mouths so that you can have something to argue with them about.

If I recall correctly, thats exactly what happens when whites gets wrongly accused of racism, and hey, look, your doing it right now!!!!!
 
we are constantly being blamed for other people's lack of success

Another true example of something whites can complain about.
 
I have got stopped and searched before on the basis of my race. Many Black and Asian youths have.
Speculation.

I have spoke about it before on the forums. The only criteria the police officer who stopped me explained was because to paraphrase, I matched the description (I was black) and I had a hoodie ... that is it.
If you were in the area where a serious crime was committed and that was the description they recieved from the victims. You'd go bat**** crazy if the police didn't do their best work to try to find the person who commited a serious crime against you.

But, instead of taking the officer's word for it, you'd rather speculate that he is a racist for no other reason than he is a cop.

Thats Racist...
 
I wouldn't wish to trade my skin colour because it is part of my history and something of my culture even if I think white people have it easier.

I don't see any benefit to being Black in US or indeed abroad. African Americans are the most disadvantaged race in US imo, both educational and financial wise. Many are likely to be born in a single parent household or a low income family. So whatever benefits he claims they are receiving, I do not see or agree with.
And individuals of every race is capable of being racist and I'm sure there are many racists who are Black so his second point is moot.
Both bolded items of discussion above are a cultural problem that is not the responsibility of anyone but those individuals involved.
Single Parent? Cultural Problem. Nobody rolled the dice and made her a single parent, She got pregnant and had a kid with a guy who wasn't interested in her and now she is in a bad spot. Its called birth control.

Low income, Should have stayed in school, payed attention in school and worked hard to go to college and get a better job.

The opportunity is there, and many suceed. They aren't the "lucky" ones, they are the ambitious ones who made it despite a bad social setting.

You can't say, "You can't blame someone living in the low-income ghetto for getting involved in gangs or dropping out." But in reality, they are the ones who made that decision.

Its time we start holding people accountable for their actions, and as parents raising then to make the right decisions instead of blaming society and WHITEY.
 
I believe that's what Caine was referring to.

Not to mention the serious problems one faced when trying to get into Public Safety jobs in the late 80s and early 90s due to Affirmative Action.

Its not so much of a problem now as it was back then. I don't think I've met a senior officer who started during that time who wasn't denied a job because the organization they applied to wasn't hiring anymore whites at the time.
 
And the highest chance of being arrested and eventually jailed.

Oh, I didn't know that lol

And a higher rate of crime :roll:
 
That was just one example and when I spoke about it on the forum, I wasn't particularly bothered because even if they stopped me, it wasn't that traumatic in that instance but I have been stopped and searched over a dozen times in the last few years for no good reason for what I believe was no reason than my skin colour.
Most Blacks in London/UK, especially Black/Asian youths are stopped and unfairly targeted because of their background and little else. Hell the Chief constable admitted previously that the Met Police is "institutionally racist"

More examples of accusing people of racism for no reason.
 
He's complaining about affirmative action? Meh.
Now that makes slightly more sense than being called racist by racists :/

Theoretically minorities in US get a leg up.
Realistically Whites as a whole in US generally are still better off and always will be, leg up or not by the State. Whites are always going to dominate the political elite, mixed race President or not.

And that is because....

There are more whites than blacks.....

If you Have 20 Beans total, and 15 of them are brown, and the other 5 are green..... and you had to select 3....... You do the math...

:roll:
 
Speculation.

Actually it's not.
The Government's own date shows that Black and Asians are four times more likely to be stop and searched and a report done by the Metropolitan Police Authority argued the source of this is because of racial bias.
In 2007 to 2008, there were more than 170,000 stop and searches conducted on black people, compared to just 25,000 had they been stopped at the same rate as white people.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | Stop-and-search 'racism' must end

That doesn't highlight **** does it. Oh no.
No gap between 170,000 and 25,000 :roll:

Equalities watchdog rebukes police over disproportionate use of stop and search | Law | The Guardian

Edit: My mistake.
Black and Asians are seven times more likely to be stopped compared to Whites and it has increased by 70%
70% rise in number of black and Asian people stopped and searched | Law | The Guardian

I can locate for you more news sources on this topic and try and dig up the reports for you if that is not enough :2wave:

The police are institutionally racist.
Not my words, oh no. The words of a report done on the police itself by a Independent committee
 
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Both bolded items of discussion above are a cultural problem that is not the responsibility of anyone but those individuals involved.
Single Parent? Cultural Problem. Nobody rolled the dice and made her a single parent, She got pregnant and had a kid with a guy who wasn't interested in her and now she is in a bad spot. Its called birth control.

Low income, Should have stayed in school, payed attention in school and worked hard to go to college and get a better job.

The opportunity is there, and many suceed. They aren't the "lucky" ones, they are the ambitious ones who made it despite a bad social setting.

You can't say, "You can't blame someone living in the low-income ghetto for getting involved in gangs or dropping out." But in reality, they are the ones who made that decision.

Its time we start holding people accountable for their actions, and as parents raising then to make the right decisions instead of blaming society and WHITEY.

get out of my head.....you are stealing my thoughts. excellent post
 
Not to mention the serious problems one faced when trying to get into Public Safety jobs in the late 80s and early 90s due to Affirmative Action.

Its not so much of a problem now as it was back then. I don't think I've met a senior officer who started during that time who wasn't denied a job because the organization they applied to wasn't hiring anymore whites at the time.

I was denied a job with the FBI in the mid 90s because "they had a shortage of minority agents", even though I was head and shoulders above all the other candidates in my applicant group.
 
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