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Are White People an oppressed minority?

Are White People an oppressed minority in America?


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Yeah, there are specific cultural aspects that are dominant in some minority cultures that show a lack of respect for authority.

Respect is earned for any individual :shrug:
 
Yeah because minorities woke up one day and thought 'wow, let's just hate police officers from now for no reason whatsoever' :roll:

Can you has reading comprehension.

Ive though I left out the "who" word as was pointed out to me by another poster... You failed to read anything about the cultural means.

Cultural sometimes referring to old racist ass parents who beat this image of evil mean racist police (the ones they dealt with in the south during civil rights times) as the standard every day run of the mill cop. So thus created the false acusation of racism every time a white cop does something to a poor uneducated black person.
 
I give respect when it is due.
No doubt it is the same for any other individual.

You should respect everyone until they give you a reason not to respect them. not the other way around.

Its this type of attitude that get so many people in bigger trouble than they should be in.
 
LOL

I don't give a **** if I have done nothing wrong
No police officer should have the right to search me unless they can prove I have done something wrong and especially not on the cause of race. Lazy policing right there.
It's my right to privacy and I don't want the goddamn State taking it away from me and giving it to the untrustworthy. The police should NEVER have the right to stop and search unless they have some evidence for that individual doing something illegal or prove beyond reasonable doubt they had a cause.

And they don't - and abuse of your right can get someone's ass in hot water.

In my law class the other day I was the ONLY one arguing *for* that right to privacy/no-search. My teacher and many others were saying "denying a search when you're pulled over is almost like admitting your guilt - if you have nothing to hide then why say 'no'?" (I'm paraphrasing, of course)

I came up with two points that no one ever considers - and both are very legitimate:

#1: what if I had *legal but embarassing* personal items? (Maybe I just went to the lingere store and don't want some oily fingers on my brand new draws BEFORE my husband even gets to see them . . . Or maybe I'm moving across town and have personal videos and photos of my husband and myself boxed up in the trunk?)

#2: a businessman, salesman, even a lawyer often carries *private* information with them - and it is essential to their actual line of work *not* to let anyone possibly see the content of files, etc. If you permit a police officer to search they are given permission to *search everything* - they can stand there and read someone's case-file if they want. And that is NOT acceptable.)
- A lawyer, especially - always to and from court, etc. What if his client happens to be an officers ex-wife? You never know - but whatever is in his files is his *responsibility* to keep to himself.
 
Cultural sometimes referring to old racist ass parents who beat this image of evil mean racist police (the ones they dealt with in the south during civil rights times) as the standard every day run of the mill cop. So thus created the false acusation of racism every time a white cop does something to a poor uneducated black person.

Image perhaps that a few would have but unless something is done to enforce that, it would not affect them to the point of them actively disliking/- police. If they see a friend and/or them or someone they know being what they see "untreated unfairly" then that image would be driven home

The US Black/Cop relation would be different (because of the previous history with civil rights/slavery etc. etc) so that may be something that is very prevalent. I'll take your word on that
 
Actually I gave you links from BBC, Independent, Guardian.

Independent is highly respect.
Would you prefer daily mail?

This is not a 'one paper' thing. All papers say the same thing, even those scary right wing ones :p

But the paper itself doesn't write it... and individual does.

An Individual with a bias isn't hard to come by, especially when dealing with law enforcement.
 
And they don't - and abuse of your right can get someone's ass in hot water.

In my law class the other day I was the ONLY one arguing *for* that right to privacy/no-search. My teacher and many others were saying "denying a search when you're pulled over is almost like admitting your guilt - if you have nothing to hide then why say 'no'?" (I'm paraphrasing, of course)

I'm fine with the police thinking I'm guilty if it means I don't get stop and searched, the same should be for everyone else. That wouldn't stand up in court anyway if the police did arrest me on the basis of me refusing to allow myself to be patted down.

Both of those scenario's are very accurate, I find worrying ... actually terrifying the attitude of "if you have nothing to hide, why not" :S
 
Image perhaps that a few would have but unless something is done to enforce that, it would not affect them to the point of them actively disliking/- police. If they see a friend and/or them or someone they know being what they see "untreated unfairly" then that image would be driven home

The US Black/Cop relation would be different (because of the previous history with civil rights/slavery etc. etc) so that may be something that is very prevalent. I'll take your word on that

I only say this because I witnessed this when I was a kid growing up, my friend Jay's mom who caller herself my "Black mom" would be on a rant about something, and every time something bad happened to her it was because of her color.

Now, when white people go on about rants on not being treated fairly or disrespected... they blame the problem on the person who was doing the disrespecting just being an ass or something. But more often than not, the excuse for poor treatment or what not is racial.

If more blacks would stop blaming their race on their problems, they'd realize they have alot more opportunities than if they hold themselves back because of it.
 
But the paper itself doesn't write it... and individual does.

An Individual with a bias isn't hard to come by, especially when dealing with law enforcement.

Ahh I see, so then are all the papers biased in this issue? I would think that because it is such a wide range and from different political spectrum agreeing actually means it may not all be rubbish.
 
Disrespect should also be earned.
Not just given to someone because they are wearing a uniform.

If more blacks would stop blaming their race on their problems, they'd realize they have alot more opportunities than if they hold themselves back because of it.

We can agree on that or rather those to an extent.
 
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Ahh I see, so then are all the papers biased in this issue? I would think that because it is such a wide range and from different political spectrum agreeing actually means it may not all be rubbish.

When you set out to write an article about racist cops... You'll get an article about racist cops.

If its not a specific news event that occurred, the article had a purpose before it was written.
 
When you set out to write an article about racist cops... You'll get an article about racist cops.

If its not a specific news event that occurred, the article had a purpose before it was written.

Yes because many of those articles are about a report that has been released that has concluded/included racism. No doubt the author has to weave in the main point of the article in it.
 
. If they see a friend and/or them or someone they know being what they see "untreated unfairly" then that image would be driven home

too bad that all too often what they see as unfair treatment has no basis in reality.
 
If more blacks would stop blaming their race on their problems, they'd realize they have alot more opportunities than if they hold themselves back because of it.

but that would force them to admit that they could solve the problem themselves. much easier to just blame someone else...that way you don't have to do anything to solve it yourself.
 
Now, when white people go on about rants on not being treated fairly or disrespected... they blame the problem on the person who was doing the disrespecting just being an ass or something. But more often than not, the excuse for poor treatment or what not is racial.

They generalize, just the same. They'll say that all cops are control freak assholes.
 
Get back to me when;

1. Your Identity automatically gives you the Terrorist/Communist label

2. Your identity puts your citizenship status in immediate question

3. Your job is automatically assumed that your a product of Affirmative Action

4. Your assumed that you speak no english
 
Get back to me when;

1. Your Identity automatically gives you the Terrorist/Communist label

2. Your identity puts your citizenship status in immediate question

3. Your job is automatically assumed that your a product of Affirmative Action

4. Your assumed that you speak no english

¿Que?


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About the only drawback that I've dealt with in regard to being white is the ignorant assumption that my ancestors had some complicity in the enslavement of Africans in America simply because I'm white.

My ancestors were poor Irish hicks. When my parents came here, they didn't have a pot to piss in. They were just a couple of uneducated immigrant micks who came here to try and make life better or themselves and their kids.

Being white does not make someone immune from being oppressed or poor or uneducated. Being white doesn't grant extra opportunities. I know for a fact that some of my black friends that I went to school with had more opportunities to go on to a good college than I did, because their parents were doctors and lawyers while my old man was an uneducated construction worker. And I had a many, many more opportunities to succeed than my father did when he was younger. He wasn't even given the opportunity for a highschool education, let alone a college education. All the learning he did (which was quite a bit, considering he taught himself calculus) was entirely done by him on his own without any help from anyone.

Opportunities in this world are based on income. That's why there is a racial disparity that still exists. Proportionally, whites tend to be more likely to have money than other races. That doesn't mean that all whites have money or that non-whites do not have money.
 
About the only drawback that I've dealt with in regard to being white is the ignorant assumption that my ancestors had some complicity in the enslavement of Africans in America simply because I'm white.

My ancestors were poor Irish hicks. When my parents came here, they didn't have a pot to piss in. They were just a couple of uneducated immigrant micks who came here to try and make life better or themselves and their kids.

Being white does not make someone immune from being oppressed or poor or uneducated. Being white doesn't grant extra opportunities. I know for a fact that some of my black friends that I went to school with had more opportunities to go on to a good college than I did, because their parents were doctors and lawyers while my old man was an uneducated construction worker. And I had a many, many more opportunities to succeed than my father did when he was younger. He wasn't even given the opportunity for a highschool education, let alone a college education. All the learning he did (which was quite a bit, considering he taught himself calculus) was entirely done by him on his own without any help form anyone.

Opportunities in this world are based on income. That's why there is a racial disparity that still exists. Proportionally, whites tend to be more likely to have money than other races. That doesn't mean that all whites have money and that other races do not.
 
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