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I'm talking garden variety, theory-into-practice socialism. It's pretty much the only kind that exists on a large scale. I'm not talking utopian or pseudo-socialist beliefs, or things that people wish for but can never happen such as democratic socialism or anarcho-syndicalism. All socialism is authoritarian. All socialism requires an oppressive centralized government to rule through fear and intimidation. The only thing that differs from country to country is the wealth distribution, exact levels of corruption, and levels of minimal control at the popular level.
Nice try on the ad homs though. How unfortunate for you that they're inapplicable here.
Nice try on the ad homs though. How unfortunate for you that they're inapplicable here.