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What has Damaged America the Most?

What has Damaged America the Most?


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I picked all of the above.
I take each item as a piece of the puzzle that will finally show the end of America.
 
2 party system which has ripped the country apart, religions which has further divided the country, government corruption as senators, congressmen, and burueacrats are being bribed and twisted everyday, the corporate elite as they hurt the country politically and socially, the welfare-dependant people who are a drain on the economy, and one thing that was not included in the poll.
Politically-ignorant people who are easily convinced by political ads and vote for the rich (often conservative) candidate
 
None of the above.

What has Damaged America the Most?
The midnset that you are entitled to a certain standard of living, and that if you haven't been able to provide that standard for yourself, it's someone else's fault.

i considered that (as well as the public union option) to fall under "govt dependents".
 
Poltical pundits that are laughing all the way to the bank while they sew hatred and misrepresentation. Limbaugh, Coulter, and Beck come to mind. Presidents like Bush that have driven us into hopeless debt by starting two wars. And don't forget cable news networks that aren't satisfied with just reporting the news but are now making it, or as in the case of FOX spinning it due their political bias.
 
The glorification and promotion of "stupid".
The lack of legislation from Congress to eliminate "small print" and the second language foolishness.
The allowance of so many lies and spins..
The lack of campaign and campaign finance reform.
 
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where is 'apathy of the public' as an option?
 
Poltical pundits that are laughing all the way to the bank while they sew hatred and misrepresentation. Limbaugh, Coulter, and Beck come to mind. Presidents like Bush that have driven us into hopeless debt by starting two wars. And don't forget cable news networks that aren't satisfied with just reporting the news but are now making it, or as in the case of FOX spinning it due their political bias.
This is what happens when people think that history began in 2000.
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Poltical pundits that are laughing all the way to the bank while they sew hatred and misrepresentation. Limbaugh, Coulter, and Beck come to mind.

Actually the ones sOwing hatred are men like Sharpton and Jackson and Farakhan. Limbauch and Beck are defening the republic, I'll give you that bitch Coulter.

Presidents like Bush that have driven us into hopeless debt by starting two wars.

1) It's the congress that controls how the money is spent. And it's the Democrats that have had control of Congress for 50 of the last sixty years.

2) Last time I checked, it was Afghanistan that decided to attack us on September 11, 2001, not to mention the fact that it was Islam that had been attacking our citizens for more than two decades priort to that.

Did I notice you complaining about all the socialist programs that are in direct violation of the Constitution implemented since FDR that are the real cause of the nation's problem with debt and indolence?

No, you don't seem to be seeing that.

And don't forget cable news networks that aren't satisfied with just reporting the news but are now making it,

Yes, NBC's inclusion of pyrotechnics to make their story about the allegedly exploding trucks more interesting was fun.

So was Dan Blather's deliberate use of forged documents in a lame attempt to get his gigolo Kerry elected.

Then there's Rachel Madcow's famous editing of the Tea Partier bringing his guns to a meeting. Madcow used her deliberately and carefully edited video to complain about the inherent racism in the Tea Party. Bringing us yet once again face to face with the real people promoting race hatred to manipulate public opinion. Too bad the honest news channel, Fox, was willing to show us that the gun-toting character was a black man, wasn't it?

I see now where, since the phrase "climage change" isn't scaring enough of the sheep, and since the phrase "global warming" has been discredited in this last decade of global cooling, the Democrats are going to try to renew their con with the phrase "global climate disruption". I wonder how many people will be stupid enough to start using GCD in their postings?

And dare I mention the clowns that brought us the silly phrse "jobs created or saved" in this discussion of media lies and distortions?

or as in the case of FOX spinning it due their political bias.

Then again, Fox has nearly half the total news media audience in the US. For some reason no one wants to watch video clip editing MSNBC, pyromaniacal NBC, and forgery prone SeeBS. And coincidentally with that, the Democrats are losing support like Greenland in GCD.
 
No, the real START of all the problems was in 1913 with the federal reserve.

Then having them put in an income tax. Thus creating a system where people are taxed when they make money, when they spend money, when they invest money, when they profit on that money... and it provides a system to track most of the money out there.

There's always been spin doctors, and for a good while in american history elections were won by the person that could BETTER RIG THE VOTE... That story in the film gang's of new york is accurate in the sense that they discussed how people would shave 5-6 different styles to get 5-6 votes throughout the day, and then go in clean shaven to top it off.

The two party system is also a contributing factor, but MAINLY since JFK... at an accelerating pace since that time the two parties have been slowly melding their opinions, where now, it's like if Russia had a democratic vote you would vote for the hammer or the sickle, when both parties are all bought and paid for (through bribes, sweetheart deals, large political contributions, etc) by the same interests. It becomes like a 'red vs blue party'... you can wear a red shirt or a blue shirt to the party on any given year.

Illuminati... well... IF there IS an illuminati, they are in charge of the federal reserve system... and are at the root of the many visible problems that we have in the world.

Corporate elite : Only because they are attempting to get in bed with the government and create a society that well, think about it, what do corporations want in an employee??
- loyal / lack of options / monopolies
- low-wages
- subservient
- Well monitored
- etc...

Unions is an intricate grey shaded area, some aspects of unions have been good, others counterproductive. Most of the time, unions start good, but then live on beyond the need for the UNion and gets more power and money then it needs, becomes corrupted and becomes bad.

Welfare and government dependants : In special circumstances I would say that people should be able to get government assistance, so they aren't stuck dying on the street... but it should be SO restricted and difficult to get that ONLY someone that has a legitimate and necessary NEED for government assistance. The reason being, how do you catch a wild hog?? You put some food on a hill one day, plant a corner, put more food, plant another corner, more food, and as you get the wild hogs dependant on your food they won't notice the fence being built around them... then you can try to tame the hog, or kill it and take its pups and train the wild out of them. So, it's NOT JUST because of the drain on the economy, but giving people free money is a drain on the spirit of america that made the country great... that spirit of entrepreneurship has been mostly lost.


The wars... yes, the wars around the world have made america almost universally hated... they are viewed as the bully of the world... but it's NOT american people that are to blame (though americans will suffer more then the people responsible if it comes back) it's the fault of the rest of the puzzle mentioned each contributing their influence.

Religion - Yes, the lack of religion... I MEAN TRUE spiritual understanding... NOT lack of people going to church.

A few more I would add :

Drugs - We represent 1/5th of the worlds population, but account for 90+% of drugs consumed (NOT COUNTING coffee, cigarettes and alcohol)... But then there are legal ones that present their own problems.

Media - People's attention span has now been reduced to so small it's being called 'fractured attention'... you can seem to be paying attention to multiple things at one time, but the reality is that you can't concentrate on any single issue for longer then a 'sound bite'... not everybody, but a growing number of people... that said, there's also a growing number of people moving in the opposite direction, MORE attentive, etc... more 'awake' really.

I could probably add more if I tried.
 
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I voted 2 party system and hawkish war policy.

But the 2 party is far more damaging.

The two party system has nothing to do with what really gets done in Congress. The only group with that power is the ways and means budget committee.

I suggest you do more reading...

ricksfolly
 
The people of this country have hurt America more than anything else.
 
Only because people aren't buying as much as they once did. It won't improve until the media/Reps stop scaring them with gloom and doom.

ricksfolly

rick,

what i meant is that people in the states care more about consuming regardless of what the media says. then they do about politics. too many people care about money and not enough about living.
 
Actually the ones sOwing hatred are men like Sharpton and Jackson and Farakhan. Limbauch and Beck are defening the republic, I'll give you that bitch Coulter.

Oh come on, you can do better than that! The three you mention above are virtually silent vs. the pundits I mentioned that are on the TV or radio daily. And they are not even pundits. Farakhan and Jackson hardly make it in the news anymore, and Sharpton has really tamed down. Is Farakan even alive yet? I find it curious they are all blacks. Racist anyone?

1) It's the congress that controls how the money is spent. And it's the Democrats that have had control of Congress for 50 of the last sixty years.

And what does that have to do with the time period I was referring to? I love how you conveniently ignore the six years the repubs controlled Congress while Bush got everything he wanted including two wars. The dems had to go along with the war as they were not only snuckered by bad intelligence, they also were pressured that they were unpatriotic if they didn't go along. Oh and don't forget there was that big mushroom cloud Cheney mentioned if we didn't attack. God the damage those two idiots have caused our country.

2) Last time I checked, it was Afghanistan that decided to attack us on September 11, 2001, not to mention the fact that it was Islam that had been attacking our citizens for more than two decades priort to that.

You better check again instead of listening to Glenn Beck or Limbaugh. Afghanistan never attacked us. Show me one terrorist on 9/11 that was from Afghanistan. Just because Al Queda was headquartered in Afghanistan doesn't mean Afghanistan attacked us.

Did I notice you complaining about all the socialist programs that are in direct violation of the Constitution implemented since FDR that are the real cause of the nation's problem with debt and indolence?

Spare me the socialist crap. It's more bull****. I have Republican friends that spout that crap, but when you ask if they would voluntarily not take Social Security they become strangely silent. Same goes for Medicare. I'll bet 100 percent of the seniors at the Tea Party rallies collect on both.

No, you don't seem to be seeing that.

Yeah I was just floored. :lamo

Yes, NBC's inclusion of pyrotechnics to make their story about the allegedly exploding trucks more interesting was fun.

I guess that means you agree with me? You're example just backs up my statement about the networks making the news and being biased.

So was Dan Blather's deliberate use of forged documents in a lame attempt to get his gigolo Kerry elected.

More of the same. zzz... Rather reached too far without the proper documentation and got what was due to him. He didn't forge any documents though. You need to get your facts right. I wish there would be repercussions like that with the falsehoods that come out of FOX.

That said being a member of the ANG I have no doubt whatsoever Bush was a **** up and stopped attending drills. It was just convenient that the records are missing. Not hard to do if your daddy is in an important position, and eventually becomes CIA director and then president.

Then there's Rachel Madcow's famous editing of the Tea Partier bringing his guns to a meeting. Madcow used her deliberately and carefully edited video to complain about the inherent racism in the Tea Party. Bringing us yet once again face to face with the real people promoting race hatred to manipulate public opinion. Too bad the honest news channel, Fox, was willing to show us that the gun-toting character was a black man, wasn't it?

So someone does an opinion piece... never mind! :lamo

Honest folks at FOX! :lamo

I see now where, since the phrase "climage change" isn't scaring enough of the sheep, and since the phrase "global warming" has been discredited in this last decade of global cooling, the Democrats are going to try to renew their con with the phrase "global climate disruption". I wonder how many people will be stupid enough to start using GCD in their postings?

More strawman.

And dare I mention the clowns that brought us the silly phrse "jobs created or saved" in this discussion of media lies and distortions?

You really are good at those talking points. You must watch FOX 24/7.

Then again, Fox has nearly half the total news media audience in the US. For some reason no one wants to watch video clip editing MSNBC, pyromaniacal NBC, and forgery prone SeeBS. And coincidentally with that, the Democrats are losing support like Greenland in GCD.

Ooooh so now the size of the media audience translates to the veracity of the cable news network? Or could it be the entertainment factor? A lot of people watch those POS reality shows. Should we get our news there?
 
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rick,

what i meant is that people in the states care more about consuming regardless of what the media says. then they do about politics. too many people care about money and not enough about living.

That's what people usually do, but when times are tough, and they get scared, they look to the media to calm their fears. The media, of course, is the worse place to look for solace, because they only report bad news.

ricksfolly
 
That's what people usually do, but when times are tough, and they get scared, they look to the media to calm their fears. The media, of course, is the worse place to look for solace, because they only report bad news.

ricksfolly
Are you saying that if our news was more like that of Europe's we would all be better off? Because I advocate for all television to be like Europe with small amounts of censoring and for tv networks to be encouraged to show the original content. But lets face it American's are a whole other people compare to the rest of the world. Here what we call football, sport that does not use their legs aside from running, would not be popular in the rest of the world. Why? Because American football is boring how can it be entertaining when there are only five to ten second bursts of physical activity? Also, I hate how a sport that only lasts for 60 mins lasts for 180 mins due to all the commercials. Watching american football is a bore but tv networks and advertisers do manage to keep millions of people sitting down watching that boring sport. So I mean the people in the states need to change their whole mindset if they are to start enjoying life a little more.
 
Public employee unions are the worst. There is no way to tell for them when people are just being paid too much. For private companies, you have more of an incentive to resist union demands because you only survive off of the wealth you create. Public employee unions just suck away from taxpayers. We waste so much money because of them and their pension plans. The Davis-Bacon Act which is little known is also tremendous source of waste as it mandates that federal public-works projects pay their employees prevailing union wages.

Entitlement programs are also a tremdous waste of money. Do you realize that social welfare spending in this country represents 35% of GDP (21% of GDP is purely public). Social Security is the largest government program in the world!
United States welfare state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Government corruption is also a huge threat as we just wasted billions bailing out those corporations that helped instigate this recession that we still going through. A great moral hazard.

We're spending a ton of money on wars and a military that is very inefficient. I'm not saying we should abandon the army, but there is just a ton of waste in that system.

I don't need to say much about the federal reserve since I've expanded on that many times.

Frankly, the 2-party system is an inevitable outcome of our voting system. Just look at Arrow's Impossibility Theorem.

And finally, can we get rid of the income tax? It is the source of all of these problems (except the federal reserve). Without it, the government wouldn't have the money to waste (at least the federal government wouldn't have that money).
 
Fox, our philosophies are similar.
Tis funny, our football may be accepted by the Euros and their football may be taken in by us. And the same for succor.
 
Public employee unions are the worst. There is no way to tell for them when people are just being paid too much. For private companies, you have more of an incentive to resist union demands because you only survive off of the wealth you create. Public employee unions just suck away from taxpayers. We waste so much money because of them and their pension plans. The Davis-Bacon Act which is little known is also tremendous source of waste as it mandates that federal public-works projects pay their employees prevailing union wages.

Entitlement programs are also a tremdous waste of money. Do you realize that social welfare spending in this country represents 35% of GDP (21% of GDP is purely public). Social Security is the largest government program in the world!
United States welfare state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Government corruption is also a huge threat as we just wasted billions bailing out those corporations that helped instigate this recession that we still going through. A great moral hazard.

We're spending a ton of money on wars and a military that is very inefficient. I'm not saying we should abandon the army, but there is just a ton of waste in that system.

I don't need to say much about the federal reserve since I've expanded on that many times.

Frankly, the 2-party system is an inevitable outcome of our voting system. Just look at Arrow's Impossibility Theorem.

And finally, can we get rid of the income tax? It is the source of all of these problems (except the federal reserve). Without it, the government wouldn't have the money to waste (at least the federal government wouldn't have that money).

AFSCME and SEIU are pretty much the scum of the earth when it comes to unions. Even the pro labor professors I had said the same thing

The one event or thing that caused America the most damage was the New Deal and the jurisprudence spawned by FDR's lap dog courts
 
I love those that voted religion has damaged this country the most. I means it's only the main reason the first settlers came here.
 
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