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Are you going to burn a Koran?

Are you going to burn a Koran?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • No

    Votes: 68 93.2%
  • Total voters
    73
A lot of people are simply replying by saying it's their right to do this. Well obviously, but what is your opinion about it? People should be speaking out against this kind of thing. I'm not saying it should be stopped but people should be letting them know that it's not cool and that they don't represent all Americans. I agree that the media played a big role in blowing this out of proportion, but the fact remains that the world now knows about it and how other Americans decide to speak up about it (or not) will reflect on the nation.

Simply saying that it's their right to do it seems rather apathetic to me. Do you care that this kind of hate exists in your country or not?
 
Orion said:
A lot of people are simply replying by saying it's their right to do this. Well obviously, but what is your opinion about it? People should be speaking out against this kind of thing. I'm not saying it should be stopped but people should be letting them know that it's not cool and that they don't represent all Americans. I agree that the media played a big role in blowing this out of proportion, but the fact remains that the world now knows about it and how other Americans decide to speak up about it (or not) will reflect on the nation.

Simply saying that it's their right to do it seems rather apathetic to me. Do you care that this kind of hate exists in your

country or not?
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Maybe some of us are just burned out and apathetic.

We have an Imam wanting to build a mosque of tolerance that few want in that location. They don't care about our feelings. Yet we are suppose to bend over backwards to condemn one lousy so called Pastor because he's doing something stupid? Why don't Muslims just tolerate him and realize that most Americans aren't like that dumbass. When are we going to be shown tolerance? I don't see many Muslims bending over backwards to condemn Islamic terrorists who want to kill us. This kook just wants to burn some books. He should be ignored.
 
The only thing I am concerned about is the repercussions this act will have on our troops in the ME. If any harm comes to them as a result of this idiot trying to make a statement, I hope he knows that he is responsible for it and hopefully he'll burn in hell for it.
 
mertex said:
The only thing I am concerned about is the repercussions this act will have on our troops in the ME. If any harm comes to them as a result of this idiot trying to make a statement, I hope he knows that he is responsible for it and hopefully he'll burn in hell for it.
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The connection is way too attenuated to be much of a concern. The bad guys are going to do what they do whether Rev. Numbnuts in Bum****, Florida burns Korans or not.
 
Orion said:
A lot of people are simply replying by saying it's their right to do this. Well obviously, but what is your opinion about it? People should be speaking out against this kind of thing. I'm not saying it should be stopped but people should be letting them know that it's not cool and that they don't represent all Americans. I agree that the media played a big role in blowing this out of proportion, but the fact remains that the world now knows about it and how other Americans decide to speak up about it (or not) will reflect on the nation.

Simply saying that it's their right to do it seems rather apathetic to me. Do you care that this kind of hate exists in your country or not?
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I *am* apathetic about it. It's a book. WTF do I care if some idiot decides to burn one of his own books? Am I really supposed to give a ****? Why? People burn garbage all the time, should I go monitor whatever it is that they're burning to make sure that they're not burning a book?

I really, honestly, do not care what this guy does. He has some paper in a binding that he's doing to toss on a fire. Big deal. It's not even newsworthy and I cannot believe that the press is going on about it the way they are. It's just retarded. He's not hurting anyone. He's not destroying anyone's property but his own. Why should anyone in the world give a **** about his little campfire?
 
mertex said:
The only thing I am concerned about is the repercussions this act will have on our troops in the ME. If any harm comes to them as a result of this idiot trying to make a statement, I hope he knows that he is responsible for it and hopefully he'll burn in hell for it.
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But he's not responsible for any violence. Individuals are responsible for their own actions. If some ****wad in Iran kills someone, this guy in Florida who burned some paper thousands of miles away hardly made him do it.
 
rivrrat said:
But he's not responsible for any violence. Individuals are responsible for their own actions. If some ****wad in Iran kills someone, this guy in Florida who burned some paper thousands of miles away hardly made him do it.
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I agree. It's not like he plans to draw a politically incorrect cartoon.
 
mertex said:
The only thing I am concerned about is the repercussions this act will have on our troops in the ME. If any harm comes to them as a result of this idiot trying to make a statement, I hope he knows that he is responsible for it and hopefully he'll burn in hell for it.
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If we somehow talk this nut out of this and they get their way, what next will be putting ourselves and troops in danger? Will they go after our gay rights marches and start protesting those in the ME.
When did we become a bunch of pansies?
 
I wouldnt burn a Quran, but let me just say I completely support another persons right to do so!
Not that Ive actually though that through, but because its the grippiest, truthiest, freedomest thing I can say.
 
Orion said:
Simply saying that it's their right to do it seems rather apathetic to me. Do you care that this kind of hate exists in your country or not?
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Yes, I'm happy that it's allowed to exist.
 
Barbbtx said:
If we somehow talk this nut out of this and they get their way,
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I'm sorry, who is "they" - like in "and they get their way"?

what next will be putting ourselves and troops in danger?
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I gather from your comment that you don't think it matters that this idiot is risking our troops' lives in Iraq? Like, you don't know any soldier that has been to Iraq, you don't have a relative that has gone to Iraq, or is still there?


Will they go after our gay rights marches and start protesting those in the ME.
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Huh?

When did we become a bunch of pansies?
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We are not pansies when we take the advice of a general that is right there in the midst of where our troops are and knows what he is talking about. Yeah, I guess when you are not the one in danger, who cares? That seems to be the attitude of most conservatives on this matter.
 
Can't say I will, because I find it distasteful to burn books. It's also foolish to go out of your way to antagonize another group of people with such a contentless form of protest.
 
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Gipper said:
Nope. It's hypocritical to do so. Have you read the Bible? The people who condemn a religion following the words of a violent book are the ones who belong to another religion following the words of a violent book.
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There's nothing more convenient then painting with a broad brush.
 
Orion said:
A lot of people are simply replying by saying it's their right to do this. Well obviously, but what is your opinion about it? People should be speaking out against this kind of thing. I'm not saying it should be stopped but people should be letting them know that it's not cool and that they don't represent all Americans. I agree that the media played a big role in blowing this out of proportion, but the fact remains that the world now knows about it and how other Americans decide to speak up about it (or not) will reflect on the nation.

Simply saying that it's their right to do it seems rather apathetic to me. Do you care that this kind of hate exists in your country or not?
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Hate exists everywhere, and will never be expunged. It is better to let these people identify themselves than have them go underground.

What is most pathetic are folks like our neighbors to the north in Kanuckistan that deny people the right to free speech when identifying scum.

Steyn, at the moment, is effectively being tried, by a quasi-judicial panel in Vancouver, for insulting Islam.

Normally, that's the sort of proceeding you'd expect to hear about in Saudi Arabia or Iran, not the West. But the British Columbia Human Rights Commission, in the cause of protecting minorities, asserts its right to judge and even restrict speech.


Read more: CBC News - World - Free speech, eh? Why is Canada prosecuting Mark Steyn?
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The Uncola said:
Nope and I'm not going to burn a bible either. Such inflamatory acts are for scumbags.
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Is burning the American flag also the purview of "scumbags"?

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Orion said:
Do you care that this kind of hate exists in your country or not?
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This kind of hate exists in every country, including your own, and is offered against many different targets.

When do you plan on speaking up when the hatred is directed at something other than Islam -- especially when such hatred is acted upon through the use of terrorism or exhibited by a signifigant percentage of the population rather than being limited to a few nutjobs? Odd, but I have yet to read you ever speaking out about that.
 
zimmer said:
Is burning the American flag also the purview of "scumbags"?
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As a matter of fact, yes it is. Didn't Mommy ever teach you that two wrongs don't make a right? Or perhaps you are one of those people that think we as a Nation should lower our standards and become just like those we rail against. I disagree, I think we are better than that and I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of the USA.
 
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Barbbtx said:
Maybe some of us are just burned out and apathetic.

We have an Imam wanting to build a mosque of tolerance that few want in that location. They don't care about our feelings. Yet we are suppose to bend over backwards to condemn one lousy so called Pastor because he's doing something stupid? Why don't Muslims just tolerate him and realize that most Americans aren't like that dumbass. When are we going to be shown tolerance? I don't see many Muslims bending over backwards to condemn Islamic terrorists who want to kill us. This kook just wants to burn some books. He should be ignored.
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This is exactly what I wrote about earlier. Damn I love history.

Eventually, big conflicts evolve because people stop seeking the individuals to hate and start seeing the civilization to hate. They way you and many Americans feel about their apathy towards their radicals/extremists is how they feel towards us. How many Westerners rose up and spoke against Danish cartoons? Or how many even cared about 12 years of Iraq containment? And now morons are celebrating the burning of Qur'ans with little protest. How can we expect their civilization to rise up against offenses towards us when we don't do it for them?

Its always the fanatics that start the blood shed and it is their civlizations that get pulled into their hatreds. Did all of Europe want to go to war over a single assassins bullet? Or again over a single man's vision of a perfect Germany? And how many Israelis andPalesitnians get pulled into ongoing bloodshed because a fanatic or two waits in the peace talk wings to remind people that hate is wonderful?

We may see this insiginificant book burning exercise as a "right" of the moron, but make no mistake, these morons are simple fanatics. They burn to feel good about their hate and to ignite hate elsewhere. Nothing more. The same kind of fanatics that can engineer a sniper's righteous mission or an abortion clinic's nightmare. Somewhere in the Middle East someone will dream of revenge from watching the Qu'rans on a pire. And where will that lead?

This is why identified fanatics should be put to death before they can cause damage. It's either them or it's the masses they suck in.
 
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Book burning isn't easy. You pretty much have to rip the pages out first. I have seen thermite used to destroy electronics inside a steel case, but the same thermite on a phone book did very little damage....

Books are not what needs to be burned, it is those who misuse the books that need to be "burned".
 
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